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Friday November 30, 2007 15:45 by Coilín ÓhAiseadha
Gardaí again refuse to search torture aircraft Gardai last night arrested Conor Cregan and retired army commandant Edward Horgan while they were observing suspected CIA jet N478GS at Shannon Airport. This aircraft is listed in the European Parliament’s TDIP report as allegedly being involved in the CIA "extraordinary renditions" programme, under which civilians suspected of terrorism have been abducted and transported to destinations outside the United States, where they have been tortured.
by Coilín Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:25
N478GS
by anon Wed Dec 12, 2007 16:13
http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=DAL20071129...H13-4
by Seán Ryan Mon Dec 03, 2007 05:13
Jose Padilla will be sentenced this coming Wednesday. Padilla an American citizen was convicted during the Summer on a number of charges related to being a member of Al Qaeda. The prosecution are calling for a life sentence in a maximum security prison, despite the fact that no evidence was offered in the trial that showed that Padilla had harmed anyone or that the had conspired to do so.
by Edward Horgan Mon Dec 03, 2007 00:35
10 hours after my arrest at Shannon I travelled through the Airport on my way to the Stop the War Conference in London, attended by about 1,000 people. OMNI air chartered US troop carrier Shannon 30 Nov 07 0.05 Mb 2 further US air force C 130s at Shannon 30 Nov 07 0.04 Mb Hercules C130 Carrying weapons, troops or prisoners? 0.05 Mb US troops Departure lounge Shannon 30 Nov 07 0.11 Mb More US troops en route to Iraq at Shannon 30 Nov 2007 0.16 Mb
by G.D.Flynn - International Republican Sun Dec 02, 2007 13:26 188 burghsliussingel 3086 vg Rotterdam 0031102102055
It may occur to the readers, that the transport of prisoners, contravenes the Neutrality Act, at this time Russia as it now is,is currently upgrading its Military by an increase of 2 billion a quarter,it has moved missiles into Kralingstaad near Estonia, has initiated to scrap the C.F.E. Conventional Forces Europe Act, and is fully prepared to Mobilize up to 250 Division, thats 4>5 million men to its European borders, which are now at the same position as in 1942,this will be concluded on the 12 December. OnJune 7th 1981 a Sunday,a group of twenty four US built F15 and F16s left Israel Beersheba to Bomb the Nuclear Facility, at Tuwaitha, just outside Bagdad, These Planes, were refuelled in Flight by a camoflaged Aer Lingus commercial carrier,the fighters kept in close formation to avoid radar detection,and electronic identification, the Aer Lingus then flew with two fighters across Syria to the British Airbase, for electronic Warfare,and communications situated on Cyprus, an interesting place Lord Montague owns a house there which he hires out to Lord Sainsbury, this was in the last Cold War, the Thatcher, Reagan era. The reason the Israelis chose Aer Lingus, was because the Irish leased their Planes out to Arab Nations, some of your readers have a bout of selective historical amnesia, was the Irish Goverment told ? Did they know? Do they care? Did the Irish Jews say anything? or was it offshore Political Funding again ? Where is the Irish Constitution in all of this ? where is Eire,s Neutrality Act ? The same as Canada,,s? A paper Tiger, that wont convince the Siberians, of Eire,s Neutrality along with the rendition Flights.Where these men now stand on Principle, will depend entirely on where the CONSTITUTION sits. Yours Respectfully, G.D. FlynnO Flynn
by Coilín Sat Dec 01, 2007 22:07
Contrarian, it is misguided patriotism to suggest that a country that itself practises kidnapping and torture all over the world is capable of bringing freedom to any other country. Your federal government has lost track of the fundamental principles of freedom that the American people hold so dear. The CIA itself is being "obsessively anti-American" in pursuing its outsourcing of torture programme, and you yourself are undermining American values by speaking up to defend this torturing regime.
by Coilín Sat Dec 01, 2007 21:00
by TD - Ireland-Palestine Solidarity Campaign Sat Dec 01, 2007 16:35
Solidarity with Ed and Conor; two brave men of conscience who, along with Tim Hourigan, confront, illuminate and shame the ongoing criminal collusion of this country with the US in the facilitating of CIA torture planes transiting through Shannon Airport.
by Seán Ryan Sat Dec 01, 2007 14:52
Whilst it's not for me to provide the evidence that proves kidnap victims bound for some hellhole site to be tortured, travelled through Ireland, I'd like to tackle some of the points made above.
by Contrarian Sat Dec 01, 2007 14:21
"While I am firmly convinced that several prisioners have been transported through Shannon airport for torture"
by Seán Ryan Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:47
RP said:
by righteous pragmatist Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:38
Total turnout during the December 2005 Iraq elections was 79.6 % or 12,396,631 of Iraqis who voted for 275 representative of whom 25% were women.
by G.D.Flynn - International Republican Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:57
Use the Irish Constitution to Reinforce the Irish Neutrality Act, or Read the Constitution and Impeach those Responsible. Flynn OFlynn
by W. Finnerty. Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:14
"The primary issues here are not about the arrest of Horgan and Cregan. The issue is that the US government and its agents are torturing prisoners in Guantanamo, and other secret location on the instructions of President George W Bush."
by Seán Ryan Sat Dec 01, 2007 05:52
Conor's link above isn't working. Here's another go at it:
by Conor Cregan Fri Nov 30, 2007 22:56
This plane crashed in Romania a few years ago blowing the lid on the "Black Prison" sites in Europe. Click on the link for details.
by Seán Ryan Fri Nov 30, 2007 22:55
Please disregard my comment above. The plane I'm referring to is not the plane observed by Ed and Conor lastnight.
by Seán Ryan Fri Nov 30, 2007 22:26
A poster on Politics.ie has put the following post up in relation to this particular plane:
by Edward Horgan Fri Nov 30, 2007 22:11
I am in UK at present attending the Stop the War conference in London so am not in a position to make a detailed report, which will follow later. Conor and I were wrongfully arrested, possibly in an atempt to prevent us from positively identifying the CIA plane, fortunatley, as the arrest was taking place the aricraft N478GS was taxiiing past us and we were able to confirm its tail registration number. Coincidentially, earlier that evening in the Dail Deputy Michael D Higgins raised the issue of the previous plane N475LC refuelled at Shannon on 30 Oct 07, and which the Gardai also refused to search, and during which incident Garda Karen Fitzgerald informed me that they were not searching such planes because of an instruction from the Attorney General. During the Dail debate the Government spokesperson Pat Carey TD stated categorically that no such instruction exists. This is likely to be a play on words. I have since been informed by a senior Garda source that a specific letter of some kind, which he referred to as a Letter of Advice from the Attorney General to the Garda Commisioner did exist, and that as a result of this letter or advice the Gardai were not searching the aircraft owned or controlled, or operated on behalf of the CIA. |
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Jump To Comment: 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1Sorry, Frank, but 'to stand alone as an independent nation' defies the reality of the growing interdependence of the global human system. If we are to take our place among the nations we will have to start from the premise that the earth is spherical, finite and expendable, and burning away under our overpopulating feet. Nationalism had its place in extracting us from the brittanic empire and providing us with global leverage, but the technology is converging towards a borderless globalisation. The task, from my perspective, for the 21st century is to tame the corporate globalisation that parasites on this evolutionary process. Part of that has to be the reclaiming of our increasingly diverted misrepresentative demockracy, but the war-front is the disinformation and often consquent ignorance that elevates competition over the increasingly necessary co-operation it is going to take to stop us self-destructing for the entertainment of some future species of inter-galactic archaeologist. The blackout on information and arrest of activists engaged in cutting through the fog of the info-wars, from Vanunu in Israel, through Biko in South Africa, Saro-Wiwa in Nigeria and the lads documented on this site, or Pat O'Donell and Niall Hartnett at Shellmullet point to the post-national task at hand.
Its probably largely a differing of language, but then thats what happens when the first issue on Paddy's agenda is who owns the movement. Stay free, particularly of simplistic abstractions that dispense with the ever-increasing complexity of the dominant multi-flagged consensus of the nationalist carrots. We can participate, but the problems of modern Ireland cannot be solved from within exclusive Irish coastlines. We must address the false globalisation being pumped by the economic idiots who are resigned to the twenty-first century imperial 'Great Game', just so long as they get to hob-nob with a few of the 'Players' ; while our resources and the rest of us serve as their labour-unit chips. Watch out for the false premises.They are mostly what divide us.More damage is done by well-intentioned misreadings than actual malice.I hope that doesn't come across too negative.
Born out of the frustration with the lack of real choice among the existing political parties. Democratic Reform is a vision of how the Irish Nation might be. The promise of an independent, democratic, inclusive Nation, has largly been unfullfilled, since the foundation of the Irish Republic. This is partly due to the divisions which emerged, at the foundation of the State, and the civil war which ensued. Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, and the Labour Party, all come from the same beginning, but chose different roads to achieve Independence. The successors to the great men and women who founded the Irish Republic, appear to have lost faith in the ability of the Irish People to stand alone as an independent Nation.
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