éirígí Becomes a Political Party

by éirígí Sun May 13, 2007 14:52

http://www.eirigi.org/Ard_Fheis_07/index.html

by sharon Sun May 13, 2007 14:59

Thats great to hear that you guys have become a political party. I've been watching your progress with interest the last few months. Changing to a political party means you can campaign for social change on a new level and will probably ruffle a lot more feathers in the political establishment. I think all left-minded people with a desire to address the inequalities in society and fight for the reunification of this country - should seriously consider getting involved with this party as they seem to be the only ones actively challenging the system.

Looking forward to you guys shaking things up in the future! Best of luck!

by SL Sun May 13, 2007 16:04

Interesting move. I think eirigi may be on to something here and may offer a realistic option compared to other republican, so-called, left groups. I have to admit that I didn't think eirigi would last longer than a few months, but they do seem to have something about them and seem to be very well organised and articulate and bring a freshness to their approach. I wish you the best of luck with the move and reckon I'd give you my vote if I had the option.

by S81 Sun May 13, 2007 16:07

In what is seen as an inevitable move, the chairman of the Sour Grapes Party, Mr Brain Leaking, has given in to pressure from Mr Sour Grapes himself, Daithi Mhac An Stalinist, to allow him to run as a candidate in future elections.

Mhac An Stalinist was last year dropped from the Sinn Féin ticket for the general election in a move which led to the formation of the Sour Grapes Party. Asked if the there was a contradiction in putting himself forward as a candidate for SF, then denouncing that party as a tool of the running dogs of capital and the fascist handmaidens of etc etc, Mr Mhac An Stalinist said:

"Previously I believed in the principles and strategies of Sinn Féin and the mainstream Republican Movement, but I now see I was misguided, and the stooges of Gerry Adams and Mary Lou McDonald were never going to let a headcase like me on a poster. I now believe in the policies of mé féin and the principles of scuffling with the police and trying to get my picture in the papers. "

"Ultimately, " he continued at length, "All big-headed people need their own political vehicle, and it's important that at a time when the activities of real-world left-wing republicans are bringing a United Ireland nearer than it has ever been since partition, that those of us left behind should do our best to drag the process back a few years and get as much personal attention as we can." [edited highlights of four hour speech]

The wider world was unmoved by the development, of which they neither knew nor cared.

by sharon Sun May 13, 2007 17:54

S81 appears to fear éirígí's new found strength and political aspirations.....could it be that this is coming from a fearful member of SF whose comfortable padded nest in the bosom of corrupt institutions like the Dail or Stormont might actually be in jeapordy due to the events of yesterday? Just as well éirígí is more concerned with the building of a revolutionary movement that will serve all of the people of this island equally.....and doesn't have to resort to this kind of personal attacks (although I'm sure its almost irresistable at times like last Tuesday's 'historical events')

by sharon Sun May 13, 2007 18:32

I think everyone can see S81 is a deluded shinner who needs to resort to that sort of rubbish because he/she is insecure of their own politics and position within their organisation. He/she has also been rubbished on politics.ie as the same crap poured out

by The Youngfella - éirigí Sun May 13, 2007 20:22

Yesterday was a fantastic day. éirígí has now truly arrived, I am not under any illusions that it is going to be easy, but I also know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I did the right thing by joining éirígí. It is obvious that they know exactly what Connolly spoke of when he called for a revolutionary political party. Both the Ard-Fheis and the Commemoration went extremely well.

S81's childish jibes don't warrant a response.

éirígí abú.

by Brian Sun May 13, 2007 22:52

Good luck to éirígi with this. I think it is the right move to make.

Youngfella you are right to disregard and ignore those remarks. Dont get involved in the sort of slanging matches that take place between SF and the 32s or RSF etc

by Michael J Mon May 14, 2007 02:19

... so why, when this country needs real change, are people still flogging it? It never had any relevance during 1916-21, and it doesn't now; not to mention the fact that it's far removed from what James Connolly was attempting to promote.

by Some Yank - Amerikay Mon May 14, 2007 04:06

Mo Chairde,

I am delighted with this develpoment and congrats from across the pond.

This move has truely made my day. One can only wonder what the nodding dogs in the $hinners are going to say.

Will you all be wiling to work with Ogra $hinners, as they at least seem to be a wee bit radical?

Hope you all build this up into something. Dare I say Chucky Ar La and no more Chucky Armani?

by MC Mon May 14, 2007 09:15

No it was not. It was a simple request to people like him/her to:

(1) Grow up
(2) Stop lying and,
(3) Stop doing us harm in the eyes of others.

Quite non-threatening and sensible I would have thought?

MC

by C Browne Mon May 14, 2007 11:08

"Tread carefully" is a threat. There's a lot of abuse there too, and defence of people although no one is named (unless there really is a character callled Daithi Mhac an Stalanist). It's a hysterical attack from a crowd of people who don't like anyone finding fault with them, but who spend their lives attacking the positive moves of the mainstream Republican movement.

So who needs to grow up?

by MC Mon May 14, 2007 11:36

C Browne

I was referring to those who are harming Sinn Féin by engaging in unwarranted and false attacks on other groups. I am a member of SF (probably not for very long however to be truthful). Sorry if that was not made cler

MC

by Seamus Costello Mon May 14, 2007 14:24

Congratulations on this move. I think it is high time that we had a new and fresh approach to Socialist Republicanism in Ireland. Looking forward to seeing more and giving a dig out.

Well done.

Beirígí bua

by Patrick Henry Mon May 14, 2007 15:11

At a time when we've seen the demise of a major Republican Party it is encouraging to see the birth of new and hopefully vibrant Republican Party.
Lets remember the mistakes of the last 30 years. Firstly Violence is a thing of the past and hasn't achieved anything but division and will not gain the support of the people. I would appeal to all shades of Republicanism from the Real IRA to the INLA to get together and join this new party as strength will be in our unity, whereas splinter groups will go no where but in opposite directions. We should also encourage the likes of Ogra to join Eirigi as I see potential there that is being wasted on $inn Feign.
It is only a matter of time before the disastrous Government put in place by the Brits falls apart and Eirigi should be prepared to take advantage.
Most of all the Leadership of Eirigi should be made accountable to the grassroots or else they'll become another Provisional $inn Feign.

by Objective objector. Mon May 14, 2007 15:26

Its Republican Sinn Fein-without the armed wing, Eire Nua or the elderly. I do not mean to disparage, but this is what the political approach of Eirigi amounts to.

by johnny sock puppet Mon May 14, 2007 15:27

I applaud the brave campaigners of Eirigi and wish them luck in their desire to fight elections. It is the best thing thing ever to happen. Other people i know feel the same way, and I feel sure they will be posting similar comments, in exactly the same the same style, shortly.

Eirigi Abu!

by Patrick Henry Mon May 14, 2007 15:50

As opposed to the Political approach of $inn Feign, Objective, if you can't beat them join them?

by MOB - Sinn Féin Mon May 14, 2007 16:44

by C Browne Luan Beal 14, 2007 11:08
"Tread carefully" is a threat. There's a lot of abuse there too, and defence of people although no one is named (unless there really is a character callled Daithi Mhac an Stalanist). It's a hysterical attack from a crowd of people who don't like anyone finding fault with them, but who spend their lives attacking the positive moves of the mainstream Republican movement.

So who needs to grow up?

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Tadgh I would suggest. His petty and childish personalised attacks on other republicans does the party he represents no favours. Thankfully he speaks only for himself. Whilst many disagree with Brian and Daithí for taking the decision to leave Sinn Féin they are both held in the highest regard by republicans who actually know them. One would have thought that Tadgh's rather late in life conversion to republican activism might have resulted in him having a modicum of humility. Sadly he obviously relishes the opportunity to attack those who would dare to dissent. I have not read the alleged hysterical attacks you refer to emanating from former comrades in Eirigi and as a member of Sinn Féin i do not consider our leaderships recent conversion to neo liberal economics as a 'positive move'.

by Justin Moran - Sinn Féin (Personal capacity) Mon May 14, 2007 17:07

...is being talked about on Indymedia ;)

Firstly, congrats to the lads on the establishment of their new party. I think it's fair to say Éirigí has made a positive contribution to Irish politics since it's formation, even obtaining the ultimate accolade of a reference in an IMC report. While I continue to regret their departure, and do not accept their arguments for same I have, like most Sinn Féin activists, the height of respect for the comrades. I'd hope that no Sinn Féin member would indulge in sectarian slurs or personal attacks on fellow republicans who have decided to leave us, and that they return the same respect to us, as they have done.

I also hope for their own sake that the fact that they're now a party will lay to rest the rumour that they are some sort of Machiavellian front organisation for the dastardly Shinners.

As to me 'telling the truth'. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have lied about, and would be curious to know. Not all of Sinn Féin's internal business is for thrashing out on the internet, whatever difficulties one might have, and I have to say one thing I admire about Éirigí activists is they seem to be able to avoid being dragged into endless pointless debates on the various internet sites.

Sin é.

by Constructive question Mon May 14, 2007 17:14

Perhaps Justin you could say if there was a full and democratic discussion within SF on the about turn on corporation tax? or was it as some cynics suggest, done on the spur of the moment by a leadership that is not in any real way accountable?

by DM Mon May 14, 2007 20:26

I'm asking you for the third time about you new political party.

What's egri's stance on the 30 years of atrocities committed by SF/IRA? Are you just a splinter or what?

Can you answer that or all you proving that in your first few days of existance as a political party that you're no different than the others!

by sick of it - éirígí Mon May 14, 2007 20:38

thanks for the praise justin! we in éirígí couldn't be bothered getting into the pointless mud slinging. it shows the insecurities and inadequacies of political activists in their own minds that feel they have to resort to that sh!te. it takes strong character and holding to your core beliefs to leave a party that you might have been working in for years because you feel deeply that they cannot provide the vehicle for the type of society and reunification that you envisage to be the right one. some of us made that decision, some of us came fresh. either way, we've no intention of getting into confrontation with other republicans as we're simply above that.
Please nobody bother answering the usual suspects......ignore them.....

by Anarcho Tue May 15, 2007 00:59

but not sure about the sudden veer towards the electoral path.
Seemed to be doing just fine as a campaigns group..
Would have thought lessons from previous forets into the parliamentary stewpot would have indicated its futility.
Good luck with it anyway.

by The Youngfella - éirígí Tue May 15, 2007 10:40

Just on a point of clarity, any decision to contest elections will be taken at a later date and can only be decided by an Ard Fheis. James Connolly contested elections, as did Séamus Costello. They can be a very effective tool as part of a broader movement, but to suggest that éirígí's decision on Saturday was purely about elections is misleading.

by Iñaki Wed May 16, 2007 14:17

We just wanted to wish you all the best and luck from the Basque Country !
Hope you`re gonna be the radical socialist-republican party that Ireland needs!
Keep up the good work !

by Sean Sun May 27, 2007 15:12

Éirigí are still pushing "socialist" nonsense, which means, like PSF and RSF, they will wander down the road to obscurity (RSF) or sell-outism (PSF). People with no grasp of the original spirit of the Republican cause can always be bought.

by CTN Sun May 27, 2007 16:24

Indeed the idea of pursuing a Socialist Republic under the aegis of Eirigi will buy members from PSF, the question is Sean- what price will PSF pay electorally in Dublin?

The next two years will be intensely challenging for Dublin Sinn Fein and very interesting for observers.