The Dublin LGBT Pride Parade 2006

by order! Fri Jun 23, 2006 20:33

in order of demographic importance ( or alphabetical ) :-

BGLT not LGBT.

can't someone explain why the "Lesbian" always goes in front of the "Gay" and the "Bisexual" always goes in front of the "T" which is taken to mean both "Transvestite" and "Transexual"?

is that a chivalrous gentlemanly thing?
oh yes, dear, you go through that door first, it's lovely to hold it open for you.................................????????
or perhaps it was a laliophobic phenomona of the post Stonewall generation who couldn't get their tongues around saying "BGLTvTs" at top speed, and settled for "LGBT" instead?
or maybe the sapphics were considered scarier & thus put in the front ranks?
( no offence meant - we are all descended from a lesbian )

by pat c Fri Jun 23, 2006 21:04

it flows off the tongue easier. llll ggg bbb tttt is easier to pronounce than gggg lllll bbb tttt. hard g followed by soft l almost results in a glottal stop as in the !Xhosa language, but can be managable if followed immediately by a vowel as in glottal or GLEN (Gay & Lesbian Equality Network).

the other combinations also have flow problems.

I suggest you consult Chomsky if you wish to discuss this further.

by fnord Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:25

no need to bring Chomsky into it. I suggested it might be laliophobia or some such associated aphasia or merely as you have countered "elocutory ease".

But! (big but this) most people don't pronounce the acronym. I have never heard someone say "LGBT" and I assure you it is just as difficult to pronounce as "BLGT". Each consonant requiring vocalisation.
Rather people use the acronym when writing. Now as one of those splendidly cultured individuals whose eccentricities harken back to a far gone time, I can touch type. That means I don't have to look or visually perceive the keys on my computer's "teclador". After running some non-scientific experiments (on myself), I have concluded that it is marginally more difficult to type LGBT than BGLT for the simple reason that the left hand most see one digit used twice or recourse made to the left thumb.

As for full vocal enunciation of the phrase "Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans" as it is most typically uttered, I am not convinced it "trips" off the tongue easier than "gay lesbian bisexual trans". But I will concede that beginning the phrase with "bisexual" tempts the public speaker to elide the dypthong "ual" with the "l" of Lesbian.

you at least know what a fnord is Pat C & how many of them there are to be ignored.
;-) have a good day.

by pat c Sat Jun 24, 2006 20:16

"I have never heard someone say "LGBT" and I assure you it is just as difficult to pronounce as "BLGT""

But if you never heard someone say LGBT then how would assess the ease or difficulty of its pronunciation.

Anyway, good Pride Parade 2day. I got to do my superman act stopping a mercedes that was trying to drive into the Parade. No more cars!

by tobie* Sat Jun 24, 2006 22:32

sorry I had to miss this years, damn work! any photos?

by Seaicilín Sat Jun 24, 2006 22:40

I personally hate this Pride Parade, I find it such an embarassment to see people with little or hardly any clothes on parading down O'Connell Street in broad daylight about how fu_kin great they are and how much they love themselves and it also gives a very bad impression of Ireland to tourists. I saw the Parade once and I was mortified! I personally couldn't careless whether people are gay, lesbian, bi-sexual mar sin de, I mean it's not as if I'm going to fu_k everyone I meet, yet some people have this compulsion if they are gay, lesbian, whatever your having yourself, in telling their friends, making them feel uncomfortable, when it's really nobody's business but their own. People should keep this class of a thing to themselves and if they feel this compulsion to show-off and parade themselves they should hold the Parade very late at night.

Slán anois!

by Kanee Sat Jul 29, 2006 17:50

I am gay and I hate the Pride Parades... Somehow they have devolved into this endless display of flesh and flamboyance and crassness. In the US, we are treated like freaks, because well.... most of us act like freaks and the Pride Parades are a case in point.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not some frigid, icy, closet case... but I am just offended by guys running around flashing their dicks at one another. What the hell? Unfortunately, this is what the mainstream sees and they think that all gays are freaks.

Is it any wonder the Gay Marriage ban was upheld in WA state? ANd in New York?