To the bully boys in Dublin

by seamus mallon Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:40

We're all Orange b******* now. Even Charlie Bird. Mr Bird may not be a household name in Northern Ireland. But in the South the RTE man is really quite famous. It would be fair to say, though, he would not exactly be seen as someone whose name was synonymous with the Sash.

Yet during Saturday's riots on the streets of what its Justice Minister calls "the peaceful, prosperous capital of a liberal, open society," the broadcaster was singled out by yobs who attacked him viciously. And as they did so they called him an "Orange b*******."

Welcome aboard, Chas. How does it feel to be a Hun?
Hun. That was just another of the names being lobbed around by the rioters who so objected to the sight of a few hundred Ulster Protestant victims of the Troubles daring to attempt to walk through the city centre that they uprooted half of O'Connell Street, invaded Foot Locker and pelted Garda officers with the dozens of petrol bombs that automatically come to hand at times like this.

by Jerome Thu Mar 02, 2006 13:45

Listen Jarlath,

I didn't agree with the riot but, don't kid yourself, or us, this was a sectarian loyalist parade organised by people who claim UVF members as victims but deny that there are republican victims, who lied about Eugene Reavey (whose brothers were shot the day before the Kingsmill massacre by UVF/UDR members) being responsible for the Kingsmill massacre. Even the Dublin-Monaghan bombing - carried out by UVF/UDR/British military intelligence - was justified.

Victims groups like FAIR who make sectarian distinctions in death or 'Love Ulster' publications that unionist paramilitaries distribute and support, should expect criticism. The event last Saturday was stage managed by the cops who lost control of the audience, who did not like the acting.

What you wrote above is hogwash. Don’t fool yourself.

by pat c Thu Mar 02, 2006 13:48

this was not a victims march, it was a hardline loyalist march. love ulster has held parades in the north at which uvf and uda banners were carried. uvf & uda bands were on the parades. wee willie frazer leader of love ulster and "fair" is a loyalist who has links with paramilitaries, he was refused a personal protection weapon by the psni becuse of those links. this refusal was upheld on appeal. frazers father is one of those who was to be honoured on the parade through dublin. as well as being in the udr, frazer senior was in the uvf.

love ulster also wanted to honour one of those behind the dublin/monahghan bombings, another person who held dual uder/uvf membership, and carry his picture past the site of the bombings.

in britain love ulster parades have been stewarded by the bnp & combat 18.

love ulster has nothing to do with victims and everything to do with loyalism and fascism.

they did not pass on saturday.

by rooster Thu Mar 02, 2006 14:06

in your little fantasy World of Republican victimhood there are no murdered prods and no murdered loyalists!!

by pat c Thu Mar 02, 2006 14:13

ah my feathered friend i'm not a bigot. those "victims" who choose to be part of organisations like "fair" and "love ulster" are the true bigots. they were going to honour those who bombed dublin.

by memory & detail boy Thu Mar 02, 2006 14:34

No-one thought to mention that afterwards did they? Not a picture published of ruari marking his "no hierarchy of suffering" not one more word for the "forgotten victims". Not one phone call to them to ask what they thought of the wreath idea. Oh well they're forgotten again.
don't forget them. please. RSF only mentioned them within 48 hours of the riots.
http://indymedia.ie/article/74478

by Eamon Thu Mar 02, 2006 15:12

And obviously written by someone who was not there i.e

"maybe someone like Parnell beneath whose monument they burnt cars. "
- You didn't even get the right side of the river

And also note the planted "wisdom" to taken for granted
"For the republican bullies..."

I like this;
"It's a long time since O'Connell Street saw such a complete breakdown of public order." - check it out on an average Saturday night.

These bigots were not marching as "Ulster Protestants" - you are offending every Protestant in the 9 counties if you are equating them with the UVF aligned bandsmen who wanted to provoke what happened. I see they celbrated by attacking Catholics in Portadown later the same day.

Real democracy means consultation - nobody in Dublin bar a small west-brit cabal wanted this poxy "march" in the first place, especially not down O'Connell st, why didn't they hold it where they'd be welcome like Foxrock, or at least Dame St/Grafton St where they wouldn't have to pass Gardens of Remembrance, Parnell St and the GPO.

The people of Dublin acted as they did Saturday because no elected public representatives would speak for them out of cowardice and it is a tribute to the restraint of the peoples resolve that injuries were minor and relatively few and property damage mostly limited to corporate assets.

by Sharon - Individual Thu Mar 02, 2006 16:47

"No-one thought to mention that afterwards did they? Not a picture published of ruari marking his "no hierarchy of suffering" not one more word for the "forgotten victims". Not one phone call to them to ask what they thought of the wreath idea. Oh well they're forgotten again.
don't forget them. please. RSF only mentioned them within 48 hours of the riots. "

The decision re the wreath-laying was made on December 17th 2005 and the media were notified : that decision was carried , in print , from January 11th 2006 up to February 25th 2006 .
"48 hours..." ?

Sharon.