Denis Donaldson uncovered as British Spy.

by Tory Crimes Fri Dec 16, 2005 19:34

Fuck me...Another top dog is a tout. The Brits must know everything about the 'RA and SF

by Sandy Lynch Fri Dec 16, 2005 19:36

And the sell out provies thought McKevitt was foolish. Adams must think its time to go.

by Gearoid O Loingsigh Fri Dec 16, 2005 21:09

Between Scapaticci and Donaldson and god knows who else is it any wonder the Brits got the peace deal they wanted.

by observer2 Fri Dec 16, 2005 22:41

So the Brits orchestrated the downfall of the power sharing assembly. This could not have been done without Blairs knowledge. It follows that either: a, Blair lied to Ahern or b, Blair told Ahern and the Irish Government were a party to spying on their political rivals. Taken in conjunction with the attack on the C.P.I and Frank Connolly and the events today in Dublin district court where former S.F vice president was convicted of posession of a "pen-gun" these revelations begin to take on the look of a larger conspiracy by the Irish Government to damage S.F in advance of elections. The major question here is did Bertie know? Did any member of the Irish administration or security services know?Did McDowell know?

If, as it appears, the current Administration is abusing it's powers to surveille and infiltrate what are now their political opponents then we have a serious constitutional crisis on hand. It is reminiscent of the the Arnold/Kennedy affair.It will be interesting to watch developments and pronouncements over the coming days.

by Paddy Sat Dec 17, 2005 01:14

What Irish security services they are all in the pockets of MI5. How do you explain special branch gaurds having houses bigger than business people in the so called republic over the years. Aer you a fool? Please, wake up let us join the Union again its decent, at least we know how where stand. Mc Dowell would say yes please in the morning.

by Patrique Sat Dec 17, 2005 01:34

So the "Spy Ring" was all a plot. Certainly. And who came out smelling of Roses? Sinn Fein.

I tell you, all these Yanks, Brits, Irish, and Europeans running the peace process know what they are doing.
The only thing stopping a United Ireland now is that Sinn Fein are not strong enough in the South. The DUP would accept one in the morning, as they don't need to be strong in the South, they are always going to be candidates for a coalition Government. But Sinn Fein haven't fought for years to go into a Fianna Fail/DUP coalition United Ireland. But the Brits seem to be pulling out all the stops to win them votes, and make them look like good guys. Shouldn't be too long now.

by Pat Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:00

I have known Denis for a very long time and do not fpr a minute beleive he is or ever was a British spy. There would be absolutely no reason for him to have done so and I have seen him get beaten to a pulp by both police and British soldiers in Belfast at protest marches.

I don't know the reason for this admission but I'm sure it has something to do with restoring SinnFeins credibility at Stormont and as usual a member is being used.

by OBservor Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:09

This is the most ridiculous bunch of crap to have emerged from the mess at Stormont.

Sinn Fein is obviously trying to remove itself from any blame for the collapse of the power sharing government by using a scape-goat.

This is what happens when you let a bunch of uneducated, inexperienced people try to run a country. And by the way, studying Irish History while living out a life sentence in Long Kesh does not constitute an education, merely a hobby.

Look at South Africa, another corrupt unorganized mess.

by Sharon - Individual. Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:32 sharonosuillibhan at yahoo dot com

"The major question here is did Bertie know? Did any member of the Irish administration or security services know?Did McDowell know?"

- I would have thought the 'major question" is did Adams and McGuinness know , or at least suspect , that Donaldson was selling them out ?
Or were they , themselves , too busy selling-out Irish Republicanism ?
Perhaps Gerry will got another book out of it .

Sharon .

by uneducated??? Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:36

Your comments smack of elitism, arrogance and egocentricity. They also betray your lack of education, and, of course, basic manners.

by guydebord Sat Dec 17, 2005 13:44

who is to say that other prominent members of SF aren't also working for British intelligence.
Two very prominent men spring to mind who certainly seem to have made the IRA a completely impotent organisation over the last few years.

by strategist Sat Dec 17, 2005 13:50

& if they are, is that against the rules of their respective parties?

by micky joe - green cross Sat Dec 17, 2005 14:08

Belfast has over taken Derry in the race to become the rat city of Ireland. For years the good people of Derry had to endure snide comments by republicans about the level of informing in their beloved city. Well now the boot is on the other foot, first stakeknife and now Donaldson was there anything the Brits did not know in Belfast?

A fund has been established in Cork city by concerned republicans to raise money for a shipment of rat poison for Belfast Sinn Fein. Though being run by dissidents it is entirely out of comradely concern.

by pat c Sat Dec 17, 2005 14:28

"Between Scapaticci and Donaldson and god knows who else is it any wonder the Brits got the peace deal they wanted."

indeed. i would advise all of you to read or reread "a secret history of the ira" by ed moloney.

by Ger Sat Dec 17, 2005 14:42

During the 1990's Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness while advanced their grand peace strategy/sell-out, the whispers suggested that they, were in the pay of the British became louder.

Indeed, some diehard republicans actually do suspect that either or both men are British agents whose objective was to enfeeble the PIRA politically and cripple it militarily which, they have done.

So Donaldson stepping forward is only a cover, a diversion to move the spotlight from the true spy - Who is MR Big????

by Betty Boo Sat Dec 17, 2005 16:15

another blow to unionism. Soon they will have no more excuses and will have to accept their real faith..

by Com Seangán Sat Dec 17, 2005 21:02 brencoff at gmail dot com

Just now, it looks like the PSNI Special Branch has been discredited. The UUP are correct in calling for a public inquiry. But let it be independent.
Bring back John Stalker.

by pat c Sat Dec 17, 2005 21:19

Jeffery Donaldson (no relation) of the DUP was on RTE radio 1s Saturday view and said that he had been shown the documents which had allegedly been stolen. The PSNI had let him view them. How did this happen? Why wasnt this facility offered to SF or SDLP MPs?

It was also reported that Ian Paisley had been refusing to take security briefings for the last several days. As a member of the Privy Council (no lavatory humour please) he is entitled see documents of the highest sensitivity. This suggests that Paisley knew something was brewing and if he had officially received the information on Donaldson he would be bound to release it. So maybe the info had already been leaked to him.

by Eibhlin Sun Dec 18, 2005 16:35 Glengormley Antrim

Excerpt from The Blanket, demonstrating British influence (via the presence of Denis Donaldson onlocation)against dissenting Irish Republican voices in South Antrim.

The Blanket

"Paddy Murray took his complaint up with Sinn Fein’s Denis Donaldson who said he would get to the bottom of the matter but also stated that he did not believe that the party members named by Murray to him were responsible. In Murray’s view:


Denis definitely did not know that attack was going to happen and seemed really surprised about it when I raised it with him. But he seemed more concerned that party members had been spotted doing what they did than he did that the attack had taken place. He was more annoyed that they got caught than he was that they were carrying out this type of intimidation. "

by Harry D Sun Dec 18, 2005 17:39

Sure Denis was on the Brit payroll from 1985.

Adams and mcGuinness are only jealous that they didn't make it on to it until 13 years later.

by John McAvoy Sun Dec 18, 2005 18:13

Its now clear to all but the most obtuse that Provisional Sinn Fein and their allies in Irish nationalism, both in Ireland and in the U.S, are promoting British policy in Ireland.

The Good Friday Agreement would never have occurred but for the involvement of Irish America. And in the events leading up to that, Donaldson was Sinn Fein's man in the U.S.

He was promoting the Adams' clique agenda: he was also promoting British policy.

There was no contradiction between his promotion of Provisional Sinn Fein's policy and his doing the bidding of his Mi5 paymasters: they were, and are, one and the same.

To promote Sinn Fein/Fianna Fail/Friends of Sinn Fein/Irish Voice is incompatible with Irish self-determination. But the agenda of this sell-out camp is convergent with the agenda of British state policy in Ireland.

Niall O'Dowd, Adams' friend and liaison to the White House, is heavily subsidized by Anglo-Irish capitalism, especially the Smurfit business empire.

' Friends of Sinn Fein' in New York is composed of millionaire lawyers and businessmen.

Their plans for Ireland are those of the British state: the incorporation of all Ireland into the Anglo-American empire,-economically, culturally and politically.

When the Bill Flynns, Henry Kissengers, and Niall O'Dowds, are patting you on the back you clearly no longer serve the interest of the people, but those of exploitation and repression.

The Donaldson affair shows that the Adams' faction and their rich backers are serving the interests of the British state in Ireland.

by arthur Sun Dec 18, 2005 22:56

Rumor has it Bertie and Mcdowell may have to go into safe mode for a while as all this confusing stuff could lead to a software crash or cranium stack overload ,whilst trying to comprehend what is really going on.
For those that have been the victim of the various fixes we have now got to ask "what is the point of voting"?"who is really in charge.
One has only to remember the £10 million spent on the Farmer Vet trial as an example of taxpayers money spent by the same click and yet we will soon have to pay additional water charges,another taxation to fund similair activities no doubt.
Where are the so called public representives when they are needed to argue that the British Govt must be awash with funds when they or the shady types they employ have an open cheque to destabilise our fragile democracy.

by KEERA Mon Dec 19, 2005 01:10

Radio Free Eireann had a very intresting discussion on this subject over the weekend, first half of show is about donaldson in particular his "work" in the states, second half is about up-coming twu strike. hopefully next weeek will be all about donaldson and how the brits agenda in ireland is the same as adams and co.. go to the link press radio free eireann, slan

http://archive.wbai.org/

by Barry Mon Dec 19, 2005 04:47

erm ... hello . Anyone out there remember 10 hungerstrikers ? Now before these young men died absolutely agonising horrendous deaths , where their bodies devoured themselves , they spelt out to the Irish people what British counter insurgency strategy was in Ireland . Now they died horrific deaths opposing it so I think they had a fair idea what British strategy was .

Ulsterisation , Normalisation , Criminalisation of prisoners . Making British rule in some form acceptable to the nationalist community . These objectives were spelt out very clearly and men died rather than accept them .

By the standards laid down by Bobby Sands ( and those in captured MI5 documents from the 70s that the movement highlighted) the present day situation of ulsterisation , normalisation , criminalisation of prisoners while making todays British rule acceptable could be regarded as just slightly similar to an overall British victory .

Of course anyone pointing out how the Adams strategy and British strategy are virtually identical would be denounced as a securocrat . Last week it would be Dens Donaldson denouncing you for criticising gerry , who he still supports passionately . Before him fred scapittici would have pulled you aside .

Sinn Fein has now been proven to be led and directed by MI5 agents . How many more are directing it as a pary ? Are they seriously telling the Irish people that Donaldson , its senior director and policy formulator ( not to mention his other crucial role ) is a one off . Just like scap was ?

Sinn Fein are led by MI5 agents . They have delivered MI5s agenda of Ulsterisation , normalisation and criminalisation . I defy anybody from Sinn Fein to debate this issue . Because they are led by MI5 agents who fucked republicanism completely .

Debate it .

by Delighted Mon Dec 19, 2005 08:54

Christmas has come early. Another SF/IRA insider is shown to be a tout! What a load of amateurs posing as statesmen!!!!!

by mungo Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:40

what a bunch of British agents posing as republicans . What a victory for the British , a hands down total result including surrender of an entire arsenal . Adams and his band of MI5 agents have done quite well for themselves . Instead of Brits out its "let us into the Stormont parliament please ,we've surrendered all the guns even"

The scale of this total defeat for Irish republicanism and the tactical manner of Britain having its entire strategy since the mid 70s implemented by the provisional leadership can mean only 2 things . Adams McGuinness and their inner circle are either the most strategically inept and completely gormless republican leaders EVER in Irish history or they are British agents . Either way they are unfit to govern the Irish people .

Which unfortunately means theyll make ideal coalition partners .

by Erin go Bragh Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:56

Am sure I am not the only one who has been pretty shocked to say the least. As a republican/socialist, I find it hard to swallow when one turns over to the other side in such a manner.

What the hell is "I was vulnerable" meant to mean? How many deaths of comrades in the last 20 years has this man been responsible for? How many guys "sent down" is he responsible for?Fecking traitor!
Judas was a petty criminal if you draw a comparison.

These Boys are just a bunch of low life traitors, and as for Adams/ McGuinness et al, they have led republicanism into a one way street, and that one way street is marked with defeat, compromise, FAILURE!

I have had my fill of these traitors. A lot of good people have been destroyed by this so called WAR for freedom!!!!

by Boss Hogg Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:07

A purge is needed to rid the movement of all traitors and scum..

by Observer Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:12

The British had the head of internal security and the head of administration. All they needed was some one with a dual role on the army council and in Sinn Fein and they would have been able to fully direct the republican movement over time.

by Barry Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:49

Martin McGuinness went on tv and radio numerous times in the early 70s and gave interviews about being 2nd in command of Derry IRA . He was even at press conferences with the Army council . He was never interned by the British , never jailed by them for membership even . And despite having 2 British agents at least at his side for years never caught doing anything .

Except for that one time in the late 80s when there was a big bomb in the park near the Brandywell . Worried Derry businessmen contacted Martin because Man UTD were playing there to help Derry City get FC to get off the ground and they were worried people could get hurt ( the IRA had warned local people to stay clear) . Martin went up with clr Hugh Brady to ensure the device had been disarmed and rendered harmless . A squad of Brits hiding in the bushes jumped out and arrested both men . But both were released within a few hours as it appears they were doing the community a service and not doing anything illegal .

How nice of the British . They really are sporting chaps , cricket and all that .

by Balor Mon Dec 19, 2005 14:27

i think Donaldson was thrown to the wolves to safe an informer higher up in the organisation. I notice the minister for justice has been quiet on this issue.

it's people like Bobby Sands, and the innocent people tortured to death to cover steaknives role as an informant, i feel sorry for. where is the justice in scapatacci(?) living a comfortable life off his trechery.
i'll never forget that illustration on hearts and mind where it depicted the british steering the republican ship. MI5 probaby have spies in the print media, dail, in fact every key facet of this state.

by Alex tally ho Maskey - for those who need to know... Mon Dec 19, 2005 14:46

The line being drawn by some of the above comments is that MI5 or the Branch or the RUC directed the Provos towards an "accomodation". This is just bull. The Provos were war weary and realised while they couldn't loose, they couldn't win either. So they decided to cut a deal. And a very sweet deal it was - for the SF leadership. Oodles of plush jobs, peace process money etc, funding for everything from exprisoners line dancing to IDB grants for provo businessmen.

Incidently, all their other republican criticisers are rolling in this cash as well. Not one of them is engaged in a war against Brit occupation. They spend their time attacking New SF but other than renting out guns to crims do shag all military operations against the Brits.

by knowing I'm not a british agent. Mon Dec 19, 2005 14:51

cover the fact he is a british agent or indicate doubt at the ministry that their list of alledged IRA agents may be flawed and there are quite a few double agents in there too? And on the morality scales Which is worse spying for the southern irish or the northern british?
Well let's be honest. Spying is immoral. Its very rude poking your nose into other people's business and stealing their files and giving them to third parties.
It does nothing to encourage trust rather it undermines the institutions of democracy. At the end of 2005 the Irish people yet again, must contemplate the insecurity of their democracies on either side of the border because of "the agent".

by Mata Hari Mon Dec 19, 2005 14:59

Many communists spied for the soviets not for money but for the belief they were defending socialism from capitalist onslaught. Were they immoral?

by Rob Mon Dec 19, 2005 15:04

"Its very rude poking your nose into other people's business and stealing their files"

I agree, and I have just consulted my book on social ettiquete and imagine my surprise to see that murder, maiming and intimidation are major social faux pas too! Someone should tell the sinn fein/ira , boy will their faces be red when they find out what naughty imps they have been to murder innocent women and leave them in unmarked graves, plant car bombs that kill children etc

by Theorist Mon Dec 19, 2005 16:15

Alex the peace strategy was not known to most volunteers until 20 years or so after the conflict started.

As for war weariness there was still many who wanted even then to continue the war. Therefore having such agents in key positions would have enabled them to promote those in favour of the strategy including probably other agents over the years.
They could do this while isolating other republicans who disagreed with them. On the other hand within the military they would have been able to compromise activists and missions while also being able to tar others as informers.

They where also in the positions that dealt with those that were tarred as informers and such. Over the many years this could have ran into hundreds of volunteers and activists and so when the peace strategy was being worked out in public it would have made it much easier to find support.

That would have been the reason of infiltration and the targeting of major positions from the earliest of years, as given the structure of the movement you would have the same people in the same roles for many years. You then just needed to turn six or seven people, out of thousands, who they believed they could direct to become major players or who where already becoming major players in the movement.

Adams is right though when he says the British will just chew them up and spit them out when finished with them, publicly

by Sub Scribe Mon Dec 19, 2005 16:32

A song to the Air of Kevin Barry

In a comfy Stormont Office
Sat an Irish rebel bold
On his back was an Armani
In his bank was British Gold

He was working for the Provos
And for the Peelers too
The Brits paid both his pay cheques
He was really quite a coup

Then the Branch they raided Stormont
And they seized computer disks
Sure it never worried Denis
For he knew of all the risks

But the truth it has come out now
An informer's been exposed
Neither Adams nor McGuinness
Knew the danger their friend posed

No longer can they kill him
Put a hood upon his head
For 'twould wreck their cosy lifestyles
Their ambitions would be dead

Lads like Gerry are no eejits
Lads like Gerry will go far
Sure they daren't rock the boat now
And lose their ministerial cars

Lads like Gerry will rule Ireland
From Stormont and the Dail
Paid informers aren't a problem
When you're bound for Fianna Fail

by Alex Mon Dec 19, 2005 16:51

I think you would probably find that most of the spy's woyuld have been 'hawks' to cover up their trechery. I dont think many would have remotely considered 'Scrap' a dove. He was a hard man beating and maiming sometimes killing alleged informers and getting a cheque from the brits at the same time.

I shudder to think of the damage he has done to innocents who, if they survived his 'interviews' without been put in a hole had to live in their community with the 'Tout' chinese whispers.

by IT Boy Mon Dec 19, 2005 16:57

Is minister McDowell a spy for the british? I am sure that irish governments have been well inflitrated over the years especially going by the way they all seem to be fond of backhanders and 'some extra cash' and are known to be open to a bit of persuasion..

by Well Mon Dec 19, 2005 17:47

Not entirely true. Some would be hawks as they need to be, to meat out death and punishment, 'rightly or wrongly'. Others are doves, or become doves when they need to be, or when told to be. Both are needed to ensure a two tier approach. Two or three in each aspect of the movement would be suffice in key roles, with more amongst the lower ranks no matter what size the movement.

Classic strategy, which is now being employed in Iraq, and who better to train them? In Iraq they have settled in for the long haul, no matter what they say publicly and even from the earliest of days you could see the ‘Iraqisation’ and other methods being bedded down.

With this two tier strategy only in its infancy in Iraq, even now though you could have a bit of a guess of both who, and which departments will be targeted. That is why the old RUC heads have been sent over.

by Balrog Mon Dec 19, 2005 19:15

"As for war weariness there was still many who wanted even then to continue the war. Therefore having such agents in key positions would have enabled them to promote those in favour of the strategy including probably other agents over the years.
They could do this while isolating other republicans who disagreed with them. On the other hand within the military they would have been able to compromise activists and missions while also being able to tar others as informers.

They where also in the positions that dealt with those that were tarred as informers and such. Over the many years this could have ran into hundreds of volunteers and activists and so when the peace strategy was being worked out in public it would have made it much easier to find support.

That would have been the reason of infiltration and the targeting of major positions from the earliest of years, as given the structure of the movement you would have the same people in the same roles for many years. You then just needed to turn six or seven people, out of thousands, who they believed they could direct to become major players or who where already becoming major players in the movement.

Adams is right though when he says the British will just chew them up and spit them out when finished with them, publicly"

exactly.... the old strategy of divide and conquer. a good example of the point you make was the abduction of a senior IRA hawk from Derry who was tortured for seven weeks and eventually murdered by the nutting squad. they claim he confessed..
after seven weeks of that who wouldn't tell their captors what they wanted to hear. of course, as it later transpired he was not an informant. his crime was to be an obstacle to the adams/mc guinness peace strategy at the time. some people on this board will justify these deaths, as well as the unfortunate louth farmer, and condemn the IRA, but as usual in the same breath defend state- sanctioned miscreants who engage in murder and destruction. they'll also have the gall to champion the spread of democracy and freedom around the world, as it is being undermined in their own country by our "minister for duplicity"
see Mc Dowell's unethical behaviour in the dail last week. then having the bare face cheek to justify it by saying it was a matter of state security and as part of his remit is to defend the welfare/safety of the citizens he had no choice. curiously he didn't mind compromising his beloved citizens when he signed up to 'instruments of agreement'/ echelon mark 2 . I notice also his silence when it came to Shell and the risks the pipeline posed to people living nearby. where was his speaking voice then??

by bon jovi Mon Dec 19, 2005 21:24

Glad to see that Barry likes cricket, the Ashes series was fascinating, and the series in Pakistan was great, Ahtar's slower ball is a thing of beauty.

But I digress. All of you who want to fight for a United Ireland, rather than actually get one, had better hurry up. The Brits are determined to force us into a United Ireland as soon as possible. Not much time left to stop them.

by Sharon Mon Dec 19, 2005 21:41

"But I digress. All of you who want to fight for a United Ireland, rather than actually get one, had better hurry up. The Brits are determined to force us into a United Ireland as soon as possible. Not much time left to stop them."

- ....we had best get a move on , so , before they drop the claim of jurisdiction over six of our counties .
But I digress .
Did you win any money on the cricket ... ?

Sharon.

by Kevin Mannerings Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:04

The exposure of Denis Donaldson as a spy should not surprise, it is a racing certainty that both MI5 and the CIA have active and sleeping agents in all walks of Irish life, including the Dail, Liberty Hall, the main newspapers and university colleges, political parties.

In Europe, the CIA used an organisation called The Committee for Transatlantic Understanding to penetrate the labour and trade union movement. Very little is known of the history of such groups. Anthony Blair is said to have had close contact with them in his early days. They don't just fly aeroplanes around and torture people, there is more to them than that.

The influence of these agents is pervasive, not as much as the STASI in East Germany, which is said to have had an astonishing 20% of the population on its books. Even institutions such as psychiatric hospitals were controlled by several agents. But nevertheless pervasive.

When the Northern Bank job was blamed on the Sinn Fein leadership, it was astonishing that Bertie Ahern was prepared to get up in the Dail and claim that it was an IRA job. It is scandalous the the Irish Government has allowed itself to be fed dummy intelligence, which has then been taken as a basis for policy. Remember that the farcial International Monitoring Commission, set up by the two governments, was telling us that the IRA did the bank job. All this was used as an excuse to deny the political mandate of the representatives of Nationalism in the North.

There should not be any illusions about what the diehards within MI5, the British Army, the police, and the Home Offices want: a defeat of Sinn Fein and a return to violence. Blair does little to stand up to them. It is time Ahern woke up and did some plane talking to the British.

For those who want to see an end to British rule in Ireland, the way forward is not a return to sectarian armed struggle. The sectarian divide and the nonsense of two communities must be broken. The isolation of Northern Nationalists has to be broken too, by linking up with Welsh and Scottish nationalists. A return to armed struggle under the leadership of RSF wiould make that impossible and set things back another 20 years.

by Can't really say.. Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:47

I work for the civil service and have passed on information to a foreign contact in the past. Not sure exactly who he works for but i have a good idea and don't really want to know and i am sure this is more widespread than people think..

by ede - Ógra shinnféin Tue Dec 20, 2005 18:42 eiresaoirse32 at yahoo dot com Monaghan 5464764

The only difference from our party and the partisionist parties is you have to infiltrate our party ,Tiocfaidh ar La

by T Tue Dec 20, 2005 19:19

Seeing that the wider aspects of intelligence activities are being discussed here and the nature of it, people might like to know there was previously a good story here on Indymedia called:

Irish Intelligence Agencies and the Stasi , a comparison

And it can be found at:

by KEERA Tue Dec 20, 2005 21:14

very revealing coment from Ogra there. lol
Provisionalism ala gerry is the british agenda in Ireland dressed up in celtic tops. another thing you could have said ogra is the only thing Republican about the provies is their Bobby Sands merchandise. $$$

by Brian Tue Dec 20, 2005 22:11

If you liked that article on the intelligence agencies you might like to read a book at oireland.tripod.com . Isn't it amazing how much Frank Connolly's recent travails seem to match this 'strategy of isolation' !

by Harry Wed Dec 21, 2005 19:29

Ede - The only difference between your party and normal human beings is that most of us can spell "partitionist"

by Con Carroll - Class War Thu Dec 22, 2005 16:26

was it in 2002 that the short strand was been attacked by loyalists.
the Sinn Fein Short strand rep in Stormont may have been Donaldson
who seemed not interested in the local people.
how is \Donaldson covering up fo?
how many more of them are they
dont tell us that lark that they only knew since last week
saying that the bank job in 2004 was superb
watch your backs Adams Mc Guinness.
dont rely on the US Dollar to much

by anon Thu Dec 22, 2005 17:09

For yet another view on this see the article published today on www.wsws.org They seem to think without naming them that there are spies higher up