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category international | miscellaneous | other press author Thursday October 27, 2005 14:02author by writs! Report this post to the editors

As you might have noticed all the EU leaders are very upset, this is because Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a former brickie elected to the job of leading Iran on August 3rd said yesterday at a conference for "rabidly anti-israeli people" that Israel ought be wiped off the map. & his official press agency thoughtfully told the west about it afterwards.

What utterly shocking stuff. Inexperienced observers might make the mistake of thinking he was currying favour with those extremists in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Erititrea, Sudan, Mauritania, Libya, Jordon, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Qatar, Birmingham, Algeria, and various chapters of the National Riflesmen Association who regularly call for Israel to stop existing.

But he wasn't. He was just clarifying things.

w€ are on the $ide of Israel. We may not be able to agree on exactly what borders our place it occupies on the map, (c/f http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=72671&type=otherpress ) but we in general have gone past the stage of thinking that it has "no right to exist". & Mr Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is on the other side.

He is "our enemy". Now this is what you hvae to do... Go to these links and familiarise yourself with his photo. If you see him on the DART, or LUAS rat on him.

here's the man's biography :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad
and his BBC profile :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4107270.stm

& here's the IRNA (official iranian press agency that reported his comments) round up of today's iranian headlines translated to English.
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0510277182132759.htm
They want you to go there, and realise that for many people in Iran, there is a "Israeli problem".
Thats why they want nuclear power for peaceful purposes.

author by willie mac bride beating the drums slowly as they lowered - youuuuuuuuuuu down. sure she'll never give it up. poor auld dicey riley, sure she's.........publication date Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4384264.stm

And you know it is official policy. No surprise there. Its one of the first things you learn about Iran in international strategic blogging school.
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Here's a reminder of the moment when Isreal's president said he shook hands with both Syria and Iran at the funeral of pope JP2 8/4/05.-
""I told him 'Good morning' and he shook my hand," Katsav, who holds a largely ceremonial postas head of state, told Israel's Channel 2 TV on his encounter with Assad. The Israeli and Syrian delegations had been seated next to each other. Iranian-born Katsav said he spoke in his native Farsi to Khatami (of Iran) about their common city of birth. Iran officially seeks Israel's destruction. "The president of Iran extended his hand to me, I shook it and told him in Farsi, 'May peace be upon you'," said Katsav."
But today the Iranians say it was all a zionist plot.""

(I'm quoting my report on the mafia moment when teh world's leadership all shook hands and exchanged the sign of peace, just after Katsav and Assad, Katsav and Khatami, was Charles of Wales and Mugabe http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69302 )

author by iosafpublication date Thu Feb 09, 2006 14:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

two days ago. This comment is not directly related to the "cartoon war", but rather i want to ping how I announced and linked to the Iranian news agency on the "conference for rabidly anti-zionist people" which was followed by the Al Qods day Iranian rallies.

Since that conference former brickie Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has continued to ratchet up "anti-zionism" and thats the reason i've joined those opposed to Iran being allowed develop nuclear technology. {Any state which sponsers and incites street violence not only in its own territory but beyond in the name of insult by a European state demanding censorship which subsequently denies the Holocaust {in which millions of European citizens were denied their citizenship, educational qualifications, homes, jobs, put to enforced labour, tatooed, starved and subject to experimentation and then murdered systematically} in its _own press_ is not a state which may be allowed to screen a labour force (unionised or not) to work in, build, maintain, or secure a nuclear facility for the simple reason that : a state which censors foreign media & internet is responsible alone for the conditioning of hatred, prejudice and xenophobia amongst its own population or labour-force}
(C/F http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74152 )

Now here on this thread, I want to explore contemporary Iranian anti-zionism and to point out that it has as much to do with offending Europeans as Jews. Two weeks ago Ahmadinejad speaking on the elections in the Palestinian Authority declared that "if Europe were to open her doors, no jew would be left in Israel". Meanwhile, the wise and prudent amongst us, have suggested substitution "israeli state" for "Zionist entity" in a fudge which would allow hamas talk to the other side of their apartheid realpolitik.

I want to now call a bluff.

The majority of victims of the Holocaust never left Europe, leaving aside the millions who died, who may conveniently be labelled "jewish" or "gay" or "mason" and noting that we never say "oh well that murdered victim was a gay, communist jew with slavic nationality" the majority of Shoah survivors remained in Europe or went to the Americas.
40% of survivors who went to the israeli state and are still alive live in poverty, close to the bottom of the apartheid heap. The israeli state for the last 10 years has been dominated by a sector of that society which was born in the levant. Certainly were europe to offer full redress and compensation for the Holocaust, noting that Austria still hasn't paid its compensation claims, it is "hypothetical" that some would return to their continent, to their homes. But as anyone familiar with the typical post IDF stint of obligatory service year on drugs in London phenomona, many of them would have "a lot of attitude". It might be better for the iranians and those they try (badly )to speak for to consider the "real-politik" that several million israeli citizens in the israeli state is actually better news for their neighbouring muslims than in the EU with even greater chips on their shoulders.

The israeli state which comprises the aparthied entity of israel proper and the occupied territories is ethnically only barely above 50% "european". 40% are "arabic" regardless of faith.

I'll go on soon enough...

meanwhile condemn iran.
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Any state which sponsers and incites street violence not only in its own territory but beyond in the name of insult by a European state demanding censorship which subsequently denies the Holocaust {in which millions of European citizens were denied their citizenship, educational qualifications, homes, jobs, put to enforced labour, tatooed, starved and subject to experimentation and then murdered systematically} in its _own press_ is not a state which may be allowed to screen a labour force (unionised or not) to work in, build, maintain, or secure a nuclear facility for the simple reason that : a state which censors foreign media & internet is responsible alone for the conditioning of hatred, prejudice and xenophobia amongst its own population of labour-force.

the Holocaust was and is a European issue.

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