Public Meeting: Dublin & Monaghan Bombings

by ogra watch Mon Jun 06, 2005 13:58

Green Tories courting the republican vote! Boycott Boycott Boycott

by Al Mon Jun 06, 2005 14:07

Of course it is, only SF are interested in peoples rights and justice! Im being sarcastic by the way.
I may just attend this meeting as its a subject that interests me.

by Barry Mon Jun 06, 2005 19:33

after almost 30 years of Fianna Fail and other parties covering up this mass murder we finally have junior members of a government party hosting debate and helping bring into the public eye some of what happened .

Ill not be sarcastic and render credit were its due to those hosting the night regardless of their political affiliation , well done . And Im glad to see at last Joe Tiernan being afforded a rare opportunity to explain the research he has done into this tragic scandal .

Joe Tiernans book was a very detailed and clinical read on what happened and reveals the true nature of political policing within the 26 cos . His research into the deliberate mass murder of dozens of Irish citizens by MI5 agents North and South of the border is a genuinely terrifying and emotional read , yet he remains clinical and unemotional and simply records the facts . While the litany of state sponsored and directed murders themselves are sickening to read about , the active collaboration of elements within An Garda Siochana Special Branch with the killers leaves one angry and exasperated .

After his initial work on the bombings its worth remembering he never worked for RTE again though and what he has to say on the activities of Special branch and their collusion with mass murderers is frightening . Unsurprisingly "Dublin Monaghan and the murder Triangle" isnt carried by most major book stores because of the political sensitivity of its material , itself a disgrace . Not exactly censorship but the next best thing . So a rare congratulations from me to the Ogra Fianna Fail cumann whove organised this night .

Its just a pity Bertie himself or a few senior Garda cant be available for the QA session afterwards . Then we might get some light shed on how the files into Dublin Monaghan just disappeared 2 years ago . Sickening to think this state cover up is still ongoing .

Id encourage anyone with an interest in these matters to try and track down a copy of Tiernans book ( Dublin Monaghan and the Murder Triangle) and aquaint themselves with the facts of what happened in Dublin/Monaghan and elsewhere . You will have your eyes opened and your emotions left raw .

by Ira Keohane Mon Jun 06, 2005 22:28

Who is the publisher of Tiernan's book and what is their address?

by eeeekkkk Tue Jun 07, 2005 00:35

Why don't you write an article (quickly) drawing from the book mentioned and perhaps we can have the deeply perverse pleasure of having something Fianna Fail related on Front page ;-)

by Barry Tue Jun 07, 2005 01:06

By the way JoeTiernans book " The Dublin Monaghan Bombings and the Murder Triangle" was published by the author himself . There are only a few 100 copies available .

(oh sweet jesus im plugging these shower now as well as congratulating Fianna Fail...here goes) The Sinn Fein bookshop (bless myself quickly )is the only Dublin bookshop I know for certain carries it ( although the RSF bookshop in Parnell street might carry it too i think) . Copies are also on sale in numerous ordinary small shops along the border in south Armagh and Id have no problem obtaining a copy for anyone any time .

Tiernans book was 16 years in the writing and research and the writer has impeccable journalistic credentials having researched Yorkshire televisions hidden Hand Documentary as well as working for RTEs Today tonight and for Channel 4 .

more background

http://freespace.virgin.net/m.donegan/dundalk_democrat211202.htm

by eeeeekkkk Tue Jun 07, 2005 01:23

I went in there recently enough to get a friend a copy of Eoin O'Brionn's book on social movements in the basque country.

The (quite burly) man in the shop looked around and told me eventually that it was out of stock but that he would tell the boss and to come back in a couple of weeks.

I was almost down to the corner with Parnell Street when I got a hand on the shoulder

I jumped about two feet as I was at the time idling along remembering anecdotes from socialist friends recounting being searched and photographed coming out from the shop in the late 90's and having easter lily badges and stuff confisticated

It was the guy from the shop

he'd found the book

trade must be lousy in there

by Jihad Tue Jun 07, 2005 02:00

put their hand on my shoulder id bite it deeply and run like f##k . And if it turned out to be AL arresting me for membership ( he has convinced himself) id run twice as quick.

by Al Tue Jun 07, 2005 19:02

Barry and Jihad, one in the same or an imposter? Considering I only ever made comments about membership to Barry.
Note: No one searched the poster above or arrested him.

by eeekkkk Tue Jun 07, 2005 19:16

How do YOU know Al?

Are you looking at data for the site posters? Can you connect the pseudonym to a real identity?

If you can you are a malignant presence here and know more about the posters here than anyone involved in maintaining the site as ip addresses are not logged.

If you can't connect them you are a cynical flak-generating liar as you have no way in gods earth of knowing.

by Al Tue Jun 07, 2005 19:36

("Note: No one searched the poster above or arrested him."
by eeekkkk Tuesday, Jun 7 2005, 6:16pm


How do YOU know Al?)

-Maybe because he said he wasnt searched?

by eeekkk Tue Jun 07, 2005 21:05

Mentioned nothing about being either being searched or arrested - yet you assure us

'"Note: No one searched the poster above or arrested him."

Very strange comment to make and that's saying something around here.

Jihad - have you ever been searched or arrested?



;-)

by Barry Wed Jun 08, 2005 04:08

Very sorry about that confusing post . I was reading something which was talking about Jihads and stuff , and having a few beers too and made a boo boo . I actually e mailed Indymedia asking them to change the name but they must have been havin a few scoops too .

Funny though that Al refuses to accept a point he doesnt agree with because he says theres not enough reliable evidence but can accuse someone of membership of an illegal organisation because of their opinion ( or his opinion)?

but thats because you dont need evidence to convict on that one . Any way jihad was said by mistake, the false name i gave at Easter during the ritual drugs rummaging wasnt a mistake .

by Al Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:37

Eeeeek,
It was you you bloody freak that said it was the guy from the shop.

As for Barry/Jihad, I was right, they were the same. Nothing sinister about my guess, I simple saw the similiarity in the posters.

Barry,
Its simple. I dont believe you. can you prve me wrong? No. Can I prove you wrong? No. Stalemate, now seeing as I apologised for my comments previously how about moving on?

by eeekkkk Wed Jun 08, 2005 14:52

I'm a 'bloody freak' al?

Cos I call you on lies?

Because I don't accept that a 'pc plod' is hanging round here all day every day for the stimulating conversation?

by Al Wed Jun 08, 2005 16:45

No you never called me on lieing. prove anything you fool.
your a freak because you commented on the book shop (no mention of being searched)

I commented that no one searched you.

You then ask me how I know.

I answer because you said so.

Loook Eeeeek, you made the comment. If your brain is incapable of remember YOUR Own comments after 24 hours thats not my fault.

Now to Jihad and Barry, I saw the similar posting methods, Barry and I discussed membership and then jihad comments about it. Not hard to put two and two together.
Very simple in fact. I simple did it by asking if they were the same, you make comments without any proof and stick to them. Once more for the idiot I DO NOT GET PAID TO POST ON THIS SITE. the same site that you post on, do you get paid to post here?
As for PC plod, what do you do for a living? At least im honest.

by Illegal Eagle Wed Jun 08, 2005 17:12

I do not care all that much for the sniping between Al, Barry, and eeekkk. It is a distraction from the real issue here. Seems to me that is Al's intention. He should not be allowed to divert this thread away from the fact that the Gardai have questions to answer.
So where are the files, Al?

by eeekkkk Wed Jun 08, 2005 17:17

"No you never called me on lieing. prove anything you fool."

I used the search for this unique spelling of 'lying' - first thing I came across:

"In order to legally demonstrate in Ireland you must notify the authorities that you intend to do it."
by Al Thursday, May 26 2005, 12:32pm

A big fat Lie. Check the constitution Al if you don't take my word for it.

You referred in your comment to the poster above - the poster above your comment was jihad/barry.

"do you get paid to post here?"
Nope

"As for PC plod, what do you do for a living?"
I teach.

by Al Wed Jun 08, 2005 17:28

Eeeek,
So no laws have been passed since the constitution? Do a more complete search next time. Try the Criminal justice (Public order) Act 1994, the Offences against the state Act 1939, the Road traffic Act 1961-2002. I could go on but I wont. Let you prove me wrong.
BTW, you being a teacher is a scary scary thought. no school on Tuesdays? What school do you teach in? I will make sure not to send my kid there. Your not a teacher, you get paid to post on this site.

Illegal,
Comments were made about me, I responded. can I not do that? look at my first post on the subject. I stated I was going to go because I am interested. As for the files, how the hell should I know? I was in nappies when Dublin was bombed.

by eeekkk Wed Jun 08, 2005 17:40

Quote one law that says you need to have/seek garda permission to protest in ireland. Go on ya good thing - prove your knowledge of the law. Prove you're fit to police. It's all online - go dig it out for us. I certainly don't like the thought of my kids growing up under a garda force that seem to think citizens need their permission to protest. I teach 3rd level up the wee north among other places - finished now save for marking - I have been taking little breaks between every 5 essays for last few days to wind you up and alert others to what I consider your dubious ongoing distracting flak generating role here. I do get paid to write on here - in laughs and a free eye opening education in the seamier side of life as it is lived in our little bananna republic :-)

by Al Wed Jun 08, 2005 19:47

Isnt that what I did? I named 3 I could also name Dublin general bye-laws, Phoenix Park bye laws.
If you wanted to stretch the point you could use the Criminal justice (Terrorist Offences) Bill 2005. But that would depend on the protest actually taking place.

by eeekkk Wed Jun 08, 2005 20:11

to ask permission of anyone to protest in Ireland Al.

by barry Thu Jun 09, 2005 00:21

the Garda files only went missing 2 years ago . I hope 2 jaysus u arent wearing nappies under that manly uniform .

For the record ( and ive stated elsewhere) I respect the fact the fact that youre one of the few posters here whove ever withdrawn or apologised for a hasty comment . And u seem to be prepared to revise a previously held opinion given the facts and I respect that also

But id dearly love to hear your opinion on those recently missing files and whose responsible for it . Its concealing evidence of a major criminal act - mass murder .