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Dublin IPSC Palestine Awareness Week 2005

category dublin | rights, freedoms and repression | press release author Thursday April 14, 2005 16:30author by Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign - IPSCauthor email suportpalestine at ireland dot comauthor phone 087 207 2187 Report this post to the editors

A week of Palestine-related events from 17th to 24th of April

The Dublin branch of the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC) is holding a week of events from 17th to 24th of April to highlight Palestinian life and culture.
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Special guests will include:

- Reem Kelani, acclaimed Palestinian singer and musician, who makes her Irish debut in the Village on Monday 18th and gives a workshop in Arabic singing on Tuesday 19th;
- Eamon Delaney of Magill and Michael Jansen of the Irish Times, who will participate in a media debate in Liberty Hall on Wednesday 20th;

- Sha'wan Jabarin, human-rights activist and Amnesty's first Palestinian prisoner of conscience, who will introduce a film in Trinity on Thursday 21st;

- Kenizé Mourad, Middle East journalist and author, who will launch her book on Israel/Palestine in the Irish Writers' Centre on Friday 22nd.

The Awareness Week will also feature an information day on Saturday 23rd, where those interested can speak to activists from IPSC and other organisations involved in Palestinian solidarity, and find out the many ways they can help. The programme of events ends with a Palestinian lunch on Sunday 24th.

Tickets for the Reem Kelani gig, the singing workshop, and the Palestinian lunch can be booked in advance by ringing 087 207 2187. All other events are free.

For full programme of events, please visit www.ipsc.ie

Related Link: http://www.ipsc.ie
author by Fools supporting warpublication date Thu Apr 14, 2005 21:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Arabic singing"

Virtually all of the "palestinian" songs are WAR songs..If only the idiots of the "peace" movement understood arabic, they'd know exactly what they are supporting...

author by TheTrollpublication date Fri Apr 15, 2005 02:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Even if most of the songs Palestinians sing ARE war songs, that wouldn't give ANY ZIonists ANY "birhright" of murderous theft of ANY portion of Palestinian's homeland, would it???

Please correct me if I am wrong and Palestinians singing war songs DOES give ZIonists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft of Palestinian lands.

author by a fool supporting war?publication date Fri Apr 15, 2005 13:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

fools supporting war wrote that "arabic singing" most palestinian songs are war songs when we people realise this.

Most Irish trad songs are war songs, fighting the occupiers, most scots trad songs are about occupation,indeed an amazing amount of indegineous music in the world is warlike etc this dosnt mean that people singing the songs support war. And also if you understood arabic you would realise that most palestinian songs are tragic interpretations of occupation and suffering .

make the connection, when people are occupied all there existence reflects this occupation, if Palestine was free and independent then the folk songs and life would reflect this.

As another respondent said, even if the songs are war like it dosnt give anyone the right to invade, steal and occupy their land. Just today an Israeli soldier was acquitted of shooting dead an english camerman, the cameraman was wearing blue protective clothing and a helmet and waving a white flag. These occupiers are bent on death and destruction, have you ever seen a UN school riddled with bullet holes, go to the refugee camps outside Bethlehem and you will see this, kids being shot at in school! This week three kids killed while palying football, think Israeli players can come hear and play football , Palestinians are killed palying football.

Use the head and things become clearer.


Zionism is an evil force in the world and no one can justify it, anyone defending these actions is as gulity as holocaust deniers or the perpetrators or these crimes.

No occupation !!

Palestine free and independent

author by TheTrollpublication date Fri Apr 15, 2005 15:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It is my Christian duty to witness against murderous thieves. As long as ZIonists and thier enablers push thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft of Palestinian lands, I will witness against thier offenses.

If the Palestinians want to pay me for doing what I see as my Christian duty, then that is thier business. It would be a bad business choice, seeing as how I witness against the Zionist's bloodsoaked offenses anyway. Palestinians would be better off saving what little cash they have for bandages.

And noone has explained how Palestinians allegedly singing war songs gives Zionists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. SO, I will assume I am right about that.

If hebrews being murderous thieves of the land 3000 years ago doesn't give ZIonists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft of palestinian lands, palestinians singing war songs sure as hell doesn't. And if appeasment of the ZIonist crusade by interloaper power broker states doesn't give ZIonists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft, Palestinians singing songs about war doesn't either. So it is obvious that scapegoating the Palestinians for the hostilities the Zionist's war of conquest in Palestine created doesn't give Zionists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft. And it doesn't give people in the US, Ireland, canada, etc any authority to force Zionism's offenses onto Palestinians or anyone else for that matter. No matter how much ZIonists denigrate and villify thier chosen victims, interloapers still have no such authority.

author by TheTrollpublication date Sat Apr 16, 2005 16:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The new TheTroll sure doesn't make a lot of sence.

Did ANYONE say war songs were good other than him??? No.

And as far as this subject is concerned, only ZIonists and thier enablers say that war is peace. And the ZIonist's national antheam is a war song exalting thier war of conquest over a bunch of dirt poor peasants.

Isn't it condescending to Ireland's IMC visitors when people lie to them? People who lie to you are cowards who don't have the balls to call you a fool to your face.

author by eastern eyepublication date Sat Apr 16, 2005 17:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

What about Muslim "murderous theft" 1400 years ago? Is it justified?

author by TheTrollpublication date Sun Apr 17, 2005 02:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It took the locals in Palestine 200 years to adopt Arabic. The only Arabs who need to learn to speek Arabic are babies. Your idea that the Palestinians have only been there for 1400 years is unfounded dung based on nothing but your own programed prejudices.

Arabs drove Byzantine masters out of the land. These Byzantine masters were the same Roman families that Judeans prayed for deliverance from, but by then they adopted the Greek language and Christiannity. The Arab Muslims then left to drive Byzantine masters out of Lebanon, Syria etc. And not all of those "Muslims" were Arabs. Arab muslims recruited locals in all the lands they drove Byzantines out of. They had a standing offer for slaves. Convert to Islam or remain a slave to the CHristians ( etc, take a guess) who owned them. It was pretty much like all the european conflicts that I know about. Even has similarities with Spaniards in Mexico. Aztecks ruled many peoples harshly. Spaniads showed up and exploited the hatred enslaved peoples had towards the Azteck.

author by avi Hpublication date Sun Apr 17, 2005 05:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

it only demonstrates your towering ignorance and bigotry. It's embarassing, actually.

author by Arab Stylepublication date Sun Apr 17, 2005 18:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Arabs drove Byzantine masters out of the land. "

Arab invasion OCCUPATION and Colonization....the Arabs raided, murderered and reaped everywhere from the Middle East and across North Africa in the 7th Century...

author by Suicide Bombers for Peacepublication date Sun Apr 17, 2005 22:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Gunmen threaten to kill Palestinian MPs

Palestinian gunmen shut down a government building on Sunday and threatened to kill members of the Palestinian parliament, demanding the Palestinian Authority provide jobs to former prisoners and to relatives of people killed during nearly five years of fighting.

Led by Zakariye Zubeydi, the head of Jenin's branch of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, about 40 militants gathered in Jenin's main intersection, firing into the air as several hundred sympathizers encouraged them.

Zubeydi told the crowd he was ready to march on the offices of local parliamentarians. "In half an hour, if we find any of them in their offices there will be blood and then our only language will be the bullet," he said.

author by TheTrollpublication date Wed Apr 20, 2005 16:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1/2 the lebanese are Christians. Did "Arab" Muslim convert??? Or did Arab armies just pass through, and Arab teachers preachers and goverment types stay, like in Palestinian lands. We hear, from liars, how Muslims force conversion. By thier own alligations, it would be pretty stupid to believe they would allow conversion to Christianity. Arab teachers, preachers, and government types intermarried into local families, and over time, the locals even started to call themselves Arabs, which is thier business what they call themselves.

It took 200 years for the locals of palestine to adopt Arabic. If they were actually replaced by Arabs. It wouldn't have taken so long for them to adopt Arabic as thier language. Hebrews and Zionists practice the total war. That doesn't mean Arabs did.

As for the Zionists, thier ONLY claim to the land is that hebrews were ALSO murderous thieves of the land. Murderous theft in the past makes for a piss poor pretext for ZIonists to be murderous thieves for the last 1/2 century.

Anti-semites??? Where??? Saying that Zionists have NO birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands is no more anti-semetic than saying Nazis had no right to invade thier neighbor's homeland would make you anti-German. IF Zionists really do have thier alleged BIRTHRIGHT of murderous theft of the Palestinian's homeland, then lets hear it.

A right for a Jewish country to exist is 1 issue. It could be debated withour even mentioning the Palestinians. Whether or NOT ZIonists have thier alleged BIRTHRIGHT of murderous theft of the Palestinian's homeland is a real world issue. One wich Zionists want to leave out of the equation. And why is that??? Well, they can just scapegoat others and that is perfectly kosher to the prejudiced people that Zionists preach to.

author by The Trollpublication date Wed Apr 20, 2005 17:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"1/2 the lebanese are Christians. Did "Arab" Muslim convert???"

No, the Christians were there for a long time before the moslems invaded. Under islamic OCCUPATION Christians had to accept the institutionaled Apartheid status of Dhimmitude.
Fast forward to the PLO invasion of Lebanon. Thousands of unarmed Christian Arabs were massacred by Arafat's well armed (by the Soviets) military. Do to moslem atrocities, the population of Lebanon is less then 29% today.

author by TheTrollpublication date Fri Apr 22, 2005 03:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A percentage???

Because Lebanese Muslims have much higher birthrate than Lebanese Christians, someone will have the nerve to suggest that means Muslims drove them out of Lebanon. Good God!

And it doesn't give ANY Zionists ANY birthright to steal ANY portion of the Palestinian's homeland or to MURDER the Palestinians who resist, or are just in the wrong place, as defined by the Zionist crusaders.

author by johnpublication date Mon Nov 14, 2005 16:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i came across this site quite by accident ... so much hatred - whats wrong with a little compassion ? There's enough chaos in the world without this. Sure, you may consider me a "fool" ... but i'm in good company !!!

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