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category national | education | feature author Sunday December 07, 2008 11:51author by Andrew: (layout seedot) - WSM (personal capacity)author email wsm_ireland at yahoo dot com Report this post to the editors

Anarchists and republicans report on their day with the common people

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Were your children seen with this sign???

Reporting on Indymedia this evening, Andrew from the Workers Solidarity Movement (disguised as personal capacity) drew lessons from the large crowds who marched to Merrion Square in the bright and crisp December day.

How about a system where production is organised to meet people’s needs, where it would be regarded as insanity to have building workers idle while others go without adequate housing, where the idea of paying farmers not to grow food while hunger is still a daily reality in much of the world would be seen as immoral. This can only work when the means of producing and distributing wealth are owned in common, by all of society. That’s the meaning of socialism.
How about a system that takes socialism and freedom to be of equal value? One where people can do as they wish so long as they don’t interfere with freedom of others? One where you can have a direct say in making the decisions that will affect you? One where control is in the hands of the majority through democratic assemblies and councils? That’s anarchism.

Along with the anarchists reporting from the streets of Dublin, the Irish Republican Socialist Party informed us that both the IRSP and the masses of ordinary people made up a crowd of 50,000. Perhaps what we are seeing.....

...... will require the participation of many of our work colleagues, neighbours and friends. It is about the majority rejecting control over us by any minority group (whether it be employers or politicians). If we want the interests of the vast majority to be respected, then the vast majority must be in control.

Whatever, the anarchists and republicans were definitely along with the rest of us in learning something from na muinteoirí (teachers for our non-gaeilgeoir readers) today. Despite his intention to try and ignore our first answer and come back within a year with the same treaty for us to ratify the Offaly gentlemen currently holding the seal of Taoiseach (chieftan for the non-gaeilgeoir) will give up easy. You've always been thought to respect the elderly - now they're worth emulating.

Original report from Andrew - WSM (personal capacity)

Somewhere over 50,000 people took part in the INTO organised march through Dublin this afternoon in protest at the education cuts, The was the culmination of a series of regional marches called by the INTO.

The question on everyone's minds this afternoon was 'what next'?

How about a system where production is organised to meet people’s needs, where it would be regarded as insanity to have building workers idle while others go without adequate housing, where the idea of paying farmers not to grow food while hunger is still a daily reality in much of the world would be seen as immoral. This can only work when the means of producing and distributing wealth are owned in common, by all of society. That’s the meaning of socialism.

How about a system that takes socialism and freedom to be of equal value? One where people can do as they wish so long as they don’t interfere with freedom of others? One where you can have a direct say in making the decisions that will affect you? One where control is in the hands of the majority through democratic assemblies and councils? That’s anarchism.

That can’t be delivered by any small group of politicians. It will require the participation of many of our work colleagues, neighbours and friends. It is about the majority rejecting control over us by any minority group (whether it be employers or politicians). If we want the interests of the vast majority to be respected, then the vast majority must be in control.

But to do this we must first build up confidence in our ability to change things for the better. We can start by coming together to resist the government and bosses who want to make us pay for their crisis."

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Photos from anti-education cuts protest     IRSP    Sat Dec 06, 2008 19:51 
   Me missed the boat     Acid    Sat Dec 06, 2008 20:22 
   Riff Raff & Company     Michael    Sun Dec 07, 2008 00:48 
   Video from INTO 60k demonstration in Dublin     Andrew    Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:22 
   Propaganda     Protestor    Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:10 
   A request for more info     Metropolix    Sun Dec 07, 2008 13:43 
   Spin     LP    Sun Dec 07, 2008 14:07 
   re:     Independent Socialist    Sun Dec 07, 2008 14:53 
   Independant social 'democrat'     Independant socialist    Sun Dec 07, 2008 15:41 
 10   Great report     Miriam    Sun Dec 07, 2008 16:19 
 11   Sinn Fein was there     eamon    Sun Dec 07, 2008 16:22 
 12   Response to Independent Socialist     LP    Sun Dec 07, 2008 16:34 
 13   Response to Independent Capitalist & Protestor     Libertarian socialist - A    Sun Dec 07, 2008 19:28 
 14   The Fools     maggie    Sun Dec 07, 2008 19:52 
 15   A news report     Shop Steward    Mon Dec 08, 2008 00:17 
 16   "Utopia", Propaganda, Theoretical Argument and Analyis     Cian (WSM Personal Capacity)    Mon Dec 08, 2008 00:41 
 17   H'mm     Andrew    Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:50 
 18   any more pictures of the Shinners?     invisible    Mon Dec 08, 2008 13:06 
 19   PDF of WSM leaflet distributed at march     Alan M.    Mon Dec 08, 2008 16:48 
 20   The common people??     Student    Mon Dec 08, 2008 18:43 
 21   Editor's addition     Pi Squared R    Mon Dec 08, 2008 19:20 
 22   Anarchism     Libertarian Socialist    Mon Dec 08, 2008 20:55 
 23   Eh beg differ Libertarian Socialist     Ricardo    Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:06 
 24   Class     Libertarian socialist    Tue Dec 09, 2008 14:02 
 25   Change the sub heading     hmm    Tue Dec 09, 2008 14:27 
 26   Why so precious?     Andrew    Tue Dec 09, 2008 15:25 
 27   erm..     Cian (WSM Personal Capacity)    Tue Dec 09, 2008 15:29 
 28   LFI article: 'Mounting anger in Ireland at education cuts'     Darren C    Tue Dec 09, 2008 21:11 
 29   More Photos     More Photos    Tue Dec 09, 2008 21:25 
 30   The Risen People     seedot    Thu Dec 11, 2008 00:48 
 31   class ?     simon    Thu Dec 11, 2008 15:19 
 32   Wages     Andrew    Thu Dec 11, 2008 21:17 
 33   The importance of facts     Educationalist    Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:19 
 34   Selective facts?     Andrew    Fri Dec 12, 2008 15:11 
 35   Teachers' Pay     Mark C    Fri Dec 12, 2008 16:37 
 36   Wages and social spending     Trade Unionist    Fri Dec 12, 2008 17:20 
 37   Class - social change     simon    Sat Dec 13, 2008 00:09 
 38   Interesting Debate     Worker    Wed Dec 17, 2008 15:42 
 39   Re: Wages and Social Spending     Another Trade Unionist    Wed Dec 17, 2008 17:44 
 40   Back again     Andrew    Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:59 
 41   Correction to 'Worker'     Andrew    Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:00 
 42   What are ye talking about     Common sense    Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:06 
 43   Reality check     Observer    Fri Dec 19, 2008 15:59 
 44   The Middle Class and Irish Politics     Worker    Fri Jan 09, 2009 17:01 


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