Anarchism in Ireland discussion forum

by Joe Mon Jun 23, 2008 14:58

Apologies to those who tried to access the forums earlier today - a *cough* technical error will have prevented you from seeing anything. It's sorted now

by J. Carax Mon Jun 23, 2008 15:09 matchgrams at gmail dot com

I'm trying to find more info on an individual called John Neale.

Described as ''London Irishman'' and an ''English-Irishman with a cockney accent''[1], Neale was a ''young cockney member of the Irish Citizen Army''[2][3].

He acted as a lookout on top of the Metropole Hotel during the armed uprising against British rule in Dublin, Easter Week, 1916.

On the friday, ''As the building was being evacuated, his ammunition pouch was exploded by a stray bullet...Neale, whose lower torso was ripped to shreds, swayed and gasped to his neighbour, 'Can't you stand away and let a fellow lie down'. He was set down on a pile of mail stacks where he told Lieut. Traynore, 'I'm dying comrade' ''. He died the next day. [4]

I've found a detailed description of an individual who matches Neale in everyway - using the word 'comrade', acting as a lookout and being fatally shot at the evacuation of the Hotel Metropole. Yet, he is described as an ''American''[5]

Any hints, tips or advice on finding this man's story, his background and his family history?

Please email me at matchgrams@gmail.ie

Thanking you in advance.

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[1] p.168-9/212 'Agony at Easter, The 1916 Irish Uprising' by Thomas M. Coffey

[2] p.139-40. 'The Easter Rising' by Michael Foy and Brian Barton.

[3] Irish Citizen Army (active from 1913-47), small group of trained trade union volunteers established in Dublin for the defense of worker’s demonstrations from the police. It was formed by James Larkin and Jack White. Other prominent members included James Connolly, Seán O'Casey and Countess Markievicz In 1916, it took part in the Easter Rising – an armed insurrection aimed at ending British rule in Ireland.

[4] p.149-50. The Easter Rising' by Michael Foy and Brian Barton.

[5] p.41/2 Enchanted by Dreams: The Journal of a Revolutionary, By Joe Good. (Written in 1962)

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by Brian - Judian Peoples Front Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:32 somewhere near some big sea

Do you have to be a fan of The Sex Pistols to be an Anarchist?

by daffy duck - none Wed Jun 25, 2008 21:57

"You do not have the required permissions to read topics within this forum." - very anarchist! :-)

by Joe Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:03

Most of the anarchist groups and meetings I've been at over the years have neither been fully public nor operated without any sort of procedure. Quite why Daffy would expect online anarchist discussion to be any different I'm not sure.

by daffy duck - none Fri Jun 27, 2008 01:32

Lighten up! I was just trying to be humouous. Sorry, sir, it won't happen again! :-)

by erudite type Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:56

"Pullman strike" which was possibly the third most important industrial action in US history? Or am I the only one who makes that association? Well anyway - Mr Pullman was a capitalist of the lock stock and cooper barrel type. He owned everything. During a recession he put up the rents on his workers' homes (they lived in his town - at his factory - worshipped at his church) at least three times. As reports of the time attest - some workers got a paycheck for only 6 cents after the rent increases had been deducted from the wages which at the same time were being reduced.
In the end Mr Pullman tried to prove he owned US troops and agents too.

Ah sure I'm boring you.

What is the meaning of the choo choo train please?

by luas lass Fri Jun 27, 2008 21:35

There was a recent article which listed some of the decent leftie Irish bloggers by Chekov http://www.indymedia.ie/article/86836
There's the excellent go hiontacht Irish republican board and forum
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/86731
We all know about P.ie but let's face it getting past all the rightwing space cadets and trolls on top of those of our own cookie persuasion is not really worth the effort defending Chavez or Chomsky. http://www.politics.ie
And in the last months the IMC UK pages have been turning up Irish writers. http://indymedia.org.uk The Irish Times does a weekly online discussion thing which seems to be moderated by the establishment but you might get a comment published, certainly loads of oldtime indymedia regulars have posed the weekly "yes" or "no" sides.
http://www.ireland.com/head2head/
Piratebay have blog spaces open to whomever wants to use a non-censored server
http://baywords.com/

We have to spread our messages in as many ways as possible, using our resources which reflect and encourage refinement of our own platforms or specialist positions - but never forgetting the space we have in common!

& lastly re: last comment : The Pullman choo choo strike led up to Mayday. No anarchist should not know about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike

by larkin 1913 Sat Jun 28, 2008 21:23

Was a member of that republican forum you mention but while it had some potential its gone under in the last month and is currently a complete mess ,am now settleing in on the forum Cael links to here on his posts. members intrested in discussions on economy, infrastructure and the enviroment. a big step above the usual republican forum which consists of childish bragging, slagging and trolling.
Still only reading at the moment trying to catch up but look like theres a few wsm members on there too. thanks cael

http://admin2.7.forumer.com/