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fuckin great news,suggest celebratory drinks in dice bar,queen st, tonight @ nine,come along and smile ,its been a while
He's gone, but as a leader he was good. Just corrupt. Not saying it's forgivable, but the country was better with him.
About bloody time.
The joke will be on Ireland and its electorate. He follows the illustrious line of resignations of Mr. Justice Hugh O'Flaherty, Mr Justice Cyril Kelly and Dublin County Registrar Michael Quinlan (intervention in Sheedy release), Judge Brian Curtin (allegation of paedophile pornography), Junior Environment Minister Bobby Molly (intervention in Patrick Naughton rape case), Judge Donnchadh "Naughty" O’Buachalla (friendship with Catherine Nevin / relicensing of Jack White's) and all the others who got caught.
Like all these previous resignations, are we now unable to continue enquiries into alleged wrongdoing?
It's certainly one in the eye for the FF fools who parroted that idiotic "the highest court in the land has proved him honest" electoral success mantra.
The " capo di tutti capi" shuffles off the stage
Good riddence!
Are you happy Bertie Ahern is standing down?
Currently 60% yes, and 40% No.
click link to vote.
How now inherits the title of chief pimp, selling out Shannon Airport to warmongers for a few scraps of political convenience.
Will it be easier to try get Bertie to the Hague now that he won't be Taoiseach any longer?
Let him off with his money, why bother chasing a few million he got as handouts when he was stuck? Whats the point?
He should be tried for other crimes such as....
1. Treason. He should be arrested and tried for treason for handing 410 billion of Your money to Shell and Statoil.
2. War Crimes. He should be brought before the International War Crimes Tribunal for Illegal participation in an unprovolked Illegal act of agression on the people of Iraq.
3. Genocide. His and his governments participation in the ongoing genocide in Iraq which has claimed the lives of 1,200,000 innocent civilians which has left in its wake 500,000 widows and five million-repeat Five Million orphans.
4. Fraud. Selling off the 'profit making' services in this country, bulit and paid for by past generations of hard working Irish citizens, to his cronies.
what about our health services- this is a countdown to Lisbon deal.
are they going to review decision-making at http://www.dohc.ie or are we
going to get political obituary and punditry comin' out the ears?
Clicked that link and the question was about same-sex unions, not Bertie.
RTÉ.ie News Poll
Would you be happy to have a same sex union with Bertie Ahern?
Yes
No
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Good riddance
Bertie Ahern's exemplary leadership of this country, his stewardship of the Irish economy and his central role in the peace process have made a permanent mark on the nation.
Bertie Ahern's name will be remembered in the roll call of our greatest Irish heroes:
Fionn MacCool, Niall of the Nine Hostages, St. Colmcille, Brian Boru, Silken Thomas, Hugh O'Neill, William Sarsfield, Henry Grattan, Arthur Wellesly, Daniel O'Connell, Charles Stuart Parnell, John Redmond, Ernest Shackleton, Tom Crean, Michael Collins, Eamon De Valera, Charles Haughey, Ben Dunne, Peter O' Toole, Richard Harris, James Joyce, Ronny Drew, Nicky English and Roy Keane.
I demand that the Spire be torn down and a statue of the great man himself be built in its stead!
"Free from gross passion or of mirth or anger
constant in spirit, not swerving with the blood,
garnish'd and deck'd in modest compliment,
not working with the eye without the ear,
and but in purged judgement trusting neither?
Such and so finely bolted didst thou seem."
He will be remembered for decades for his part in squandering ten years of unprecedented global boom on a property bubble which left his Landlord backers unimaginably wealthy and turned a whole generation of Irish people into mere money gatherers for the Landlord class. He left Irish industry with a smaller share of the world market than when he took office. Indeed, his policy of clearing the way for the Gombeen land scam left Irish industry completely starved of capital. He imported tens of thousands of foreign workers so that the Irish working class have been completely sidelined and disempowered. A new CORI report shows that 20% of the population live in constant poverty with less than 150,000 people having escaped the poverty trap during ten years of unprecedented global boom. The public health service has been run down into the dirty and dangerous state it is now in - while public hospital land has been given away to build private hospitals for the privileged. The public mental hospitals are an absolute disgrace, with hospital lands being given away for private car parks etc. with no compensation to the mental health sector. Of course, Bertie will be remembered for a long time for his treason in signing the GFA which purports to recognise British misrule in Ireland as legitimate.
However, all the above Gombeenism and treachery will fade in the mists of time. What Bertie will be remembered for till the end of the human race will be the bulldozing of Tara. This crime will not, and cannot be forgotten. Only the lowest form of lout would even contemplate pouring concrete over the sacred valley of Tara.
and die disgraced, penniless and roaring.
At this emotional time, we should all be alone with our own private thoughts. Re FF Voter, I share his/her aspiration for a statue, but beatification will have to wait.
What difference does it make?
The facade of political power and government will continue as will all the injustices associated with it.
Another parasite will simply take over and continue the development of the capitalist dream in our country.
The political circus that is taking place in the media this morning is disgusting,Gilmore and Kenny scrambling for a piece of the pie.
Yeuk.
Watching RTE coverage streamed from overseas ... what's the party going on in front of the Dáil? Is it a celebration of the resignation announcement of something unconnected?
The poll changed and got dropped from 'previous polls' probably due to too many YES clicks!
The question about being happy that bertie is going has been replaced with a question what will he do next.
Bar Man at Fagans is the clear favourite, ahead of Real Estate Agent and EU President.
Look after Brian Cowans Brother's Non Taxed Bar
Whatever about treason, war crimes, genocide and indeed fraud, surely he should be done for perjury?
Anyway, what's he going to be replaced with? More of the same...
Don't worry Gerard isn't long for this world either is he?
A great track record of bank robbery, bombings, shootings and maimings of innocent men women and children eh?
I wonder how many of them ended up in the hospitals and mental hospitals you are so concerned about?
Will he retire to his holiday home in Donegal wearing his Aran sweater and write waffle for the clapping circus seals like you?
Der grosse norddubliner Fuerher wird bald verschwinden. Es ist das Ende von Zivilisation wie wir es kennen. Ta na francaigh ag teacht go hEireann ars'an t-sean van vocht. Sic transit gloria mundi. As Pope JPll said at Limerick racecourse: Yang peeple of Hireland, I laff you.
Gerard and Bertie are birds of a feather.
He consorted with the good and the great and ensured international recognition for the nortsoide Dublin accent - the accent of Abbey character actors and the late lamented pantomime supremo Maureen Potter.
Bertie - Phoenix
Gerard - Dodo
Or, will they just change the heads on the puppets I wonder? Keep up the pressure re the involvement of Shannon in US & UK wars & rendition, the giveaway of natural resources, the sell-off of health service resources, & betrayal of the people.
Oliver Stone should direct.
Darrah O'Brian in the title role!
Bertie a Phoenix? More like a big fat Landlord's turkey.
It's good to see him go, but it's going to be business as usual on Planet FF. Biffo will probably take over, although the little rat Hanafin has expressed interest. There have even been rumours of ,God forbid, Noel 'Tara speculator' Dempsey having a shot of it. Still, let's worry about that later and be glad today that this dinosaur is heading for extinction. Speaking of dinosaurs, it looks like Butcher Bob is on his way out of Zim. A good day all round so
lets quote Tom Gilmartin about the brown envelope gang
the mafia don't have a patch on them.
not bad eh announce your resignation, lie to Mahon tribunal
never to face a day in handcuffs. while thousands que in A/E
people on trolleys
roll on theday when the Obesity of the beast resigns Harney
hold off on the party until then. Senator Eoghan Harris threat that there would be a backlash against journalists. who did there job, by letting the public know what was going on. niceone to Frank Connolly and others
good riddance
John Gormley was asked on radio just now why he stayed Shtum while in Government although he was very critical of Michael McDowell for doing the same even though there were far more revelations from the Mahon tribunal now than had been known at the time of his criticism of McDowell.
He gave a reply of the "Mr Ahern stood by us and we'll stand by him" variety.
He also said that there would be no general election but that this Government would continue to its full term.
....... don't expect any changes from his successor.
the usual clamour from the crowd
"GIVE US BARABAS" indeed !
hold off any celebration party
what a cheek. great crocidile tears again. not one mention about the numbes of people who had to wait for medical care in hospital trolleys.
wait until the obesity of the beast Harney announces her resignation. then we can call for working class to party
Eoghan Harris statement, about back-lash against journalists who were doing their job. by exposing political corruption. nice one to Frank Connolly and others.
lets not forget this crowd who backed Ahern in America. apologising to American embassy in Dublin. when anti-war activists were on trial.
not even Tony o Reilly or his son Gavin could save him. AAH AAh poor Bertie
good riddance
BOLLOXS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enda has been very quiet of late?
Today someone put a microphone to his face and he said there should be an election!
I don't think he has challenged a single issue and takes responsibility for the political crisis by his
religious retort: " FG will not obstruct the passage of this legislation through the Oireachtas"
The man has been ruling by decree throughout his supposed oppositional leadership and no-one
wants an election on the failure of health or environmental policy to aid those who refused to
deal with these issues at the time of FF/PD majority rule.
Thats too like stealing candy from a baby.
(excuse americanisations but where the feck were FG when the amalgamations were decided
that attack our communities and increase physical burdens on carers?)
They only began questioning HSE policy after the cancer tragedies, start looking at policy position
papers of the main parties and see if any of them have forwarded a decent National Health or
education policy not based in privatisation or a pension policy not grounded in the US economic
outlook.
guys
take a look at this guy.
for a truly insightful look at bertie's last days.
great comment on his achievements also in "an innocent man?"
Ah' poor Bertie lets hope he has kept the anorak moth free :-)
http://www.recruitireland.com/job/?jobID=10012942
They had to go, shafted by their parties, the arch-bigot and the shyster, now we are waiting for the party of Ireland's Robert Mugabe to get b***s and kick out the liar.
Then they just might be able to have their own uncensored opinions. Wouldn't it be great to think for one's self without being squintered?
WASN'T IT "BERTIE" HIMSELF WHO SET UP THIS THIS PARTICULAR TRIBUNAL? BIFFO COWEN IS GOING TO WIELD THE AXE ON THE OTHER AHERNS AND STILL RETAIN A SEAT MAJORITY IN THE JUNTA ON KILDARE STREET. THE REST OF FIANNA FAIL WILL BE SWEATING BECAUSE NEW LEADER MEANS CABINET RESHUFFLE. IT'S ALL BOLLOCKS THOUGH, BECAUSE NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE INVERTED COMMAS WHEN I TYPE "BERTIE'S" NAME... IT'S A LITTLE KNOWN FACT THAT "HE" SIGNED A FEW PARTY CHEQUES FOR CHARLIE USING BOTH HIS NICKNAME AND HIS ACTUAL NAME, THEREFORE COMMITING FRAUD! IT'S THE LAW. ONCE AGAIN IT'S BOLLOCKS BECAUSE NOTHING WILL BE DONE. UNLESS.....
Thanks Hohum (post 4) Im glad people still remember, acknowledge and are prepared to give credit where its due for his extrordinary contribution to the war process
Harris-its all the media's fault-has to go.
Harris wants to kill the messenger. Coming from Mr. Spin thats a bit much. He's grieving because his pro-Bertie version did not prevail.
No doubt the Aubane Historical Society will publish "The martyrdom of Saint Bartholomew", accusing all the usual suspects, telling us how a noble saint has been laid low by neocolonialists.
Cael - CORI are ideological axe grinders with a stress on “relative poverty” and “at risk of poverty” where data can be bent to mean all kinds of things including that a prosperous person by almost any standards could still be a poor person by the standards of Fr. Sean Healy. Reliance on their headlines for ideological points does not amount to much.
If you regard the GFA agreement then the Irish people north and south who voted to accept the agreement are guilty of treason as well as the elected Government of the Republic of Government. I don’t know what planet you live on but it is not possible for both the democratic Irish Government and the people of Ireland to be treasonous. Treasonous against what? Maybe it is you that is deluded and out of step not these diverse other parties.
Yes, CORI are ideological axe grinders - they believe in social justice and slowing the growing disparity between the extremely wealthy (non-taxpaying) super-rich and those with no indoor plumbing or shoes. Ireland has the second highest per-capita income in the world, and rickets, malnutrition, TB and shambolic health care for the uninsured.
My whetstone is always available for their axe.
Living as I do in far far away land, I often miss the feeling on the ground, underestimate the pulse of the heartbeat of the modern Irish people. Which is why thankfully I never feel moved to offer opinions on the politics or society of my youth. But now & again, something of such historic nature happens which moves to leave a comment on Indymedia Ireland or write a letter to the Irish Times. Today in the course of my usual pursuit of a gainful living with the least possible drudge, made easy by a modern transport system and the security of a health service which is only just reaching saturation point, I received text messages from Ireland filling me in on the news . I bumped into other Irish people who like me now forage for grubs in the city where I live (Barcelona) & though many of them are not of a particularly religious nature, I was astounded that all of them mentioned the announced resignation of Bart Ahern aka Bertie "the supreme rascal".
Sure it's the news in the Diasporia.
But I don't really understand what has happened. I don't know if ye want an election today 231 days after the last one, or if you will want one on the 6th of May. Will ye get the mammy Harney out next time? Will ye take as done & neutered the Green party of Gummy Gormley? and seriously search left wing alliances just in the silly hope of "we always lose elections so why don't we take a chance & pretend to be really socialists?". Or will you all await the resignation of Gerry Adams to complete the valedictories of a generation of Irish leadership.
They're all off to the House of Lords, & I'd like to ping just a few of the illustrations which over the last years expressed the scope of Bertie's reach.
231 days after bringing Harney back into government & setting up the destruction of the Greens. "it aint over yet"
Bertie was not just a generational leader, "bertism" will out last "charlie's thatcherism".
Here led Europe in the mismatching linen suit to walk with the G8 & expand Europe.
Here he laughed with Hugo Chavez & South America as Mr Europe at a Brazilian gogo girl doing a Greenpeace stunt.
Here he answered the call & joined the protest for the March11 bombing of Madrid at Dublin Spire 12/3/04
I'd tell you to wait @ least 3 days before deciding you want a General Election. I last posted the trusty illustration "a lot of damage done - more to do" the days 320 ago we learnt he had, fulfilling all proper expectations, won another term. His party did not implode. Nor did his party need the PD's. I told you then that this Dail will not run its whole term and the Green party would be destroyed for taking part. So heed a poor migrant in far far away land. Wait and see which little rascal wants the job before calling for an election.
now if you don't mind, I'll put my bunting out & or is it more an armband affair?
backroom shenanigans.
Anyone up for leading SF?
not that i'm putting myself forward for the task. i'm not a member. We'd nead someone of the age and skill up to rotating Limavady orange hall, with tits, no drug record, clean license, more reliable CV than you'd get from LIDL.....
The last one who got one of these was known by his first name too. Bertie will be the last Irish leader laid to rest so.
no-body cares where the poor or homeless are laid to rest. so much has changed for it all to be the same as it used to be.
there are 34 days more at least.
Ha ha, fecking genius!!!!
I was honestly amazed by this. Was home in Ireland last week and everyone just shrugged their shoulders when I asked how this gombeen was still in power, but it looks like even Teflon wears thin after a while.
Seriously, I'd have put money on Mugabe doing the decent thing before El Berto!
Bertie reports back to misson control in DC on April 30th. before taking his leave.........
http://www.counterpunch.org/browne04022008.html
Close observers are perhaps still reeling from the shocking news, yesterday & not fully internalised the full ramifications of one of the captions under an illustration above; that there will be no more "-ies" at the pinacle of Irish political leadership. They might think we're going beyond Charlie and Bertie to find ourselves in the squeeky clean domain of fiscal propriety. Bollox to that. Such a yoke would never inspire the trust the lumpen Irish voter who is up to his & her neck in dodging, scamming & get rich quick schemes. No, it meant the next leader of FF will not have a name you can readily put an "Y" sound at the end of. Thus we see 9mm Willy O'Dea, once the hope of the provincial cumann member fall not on the basis of his ronnie moustache, but that troublesome affectionate little extra sylable.
Next tip.
Ireland is used to ugly leaders. Ideally the Irish ruling class true to its absentee overseas landholding aspirations would be happy to see the whole front bench of the Dail taken up by only three bodies, and particularly ugly bodies at that.
:- you see?
Being good with figures doesn't come into it, the unconscious self-perception does. Modern Ireland has more in common with a lifelong sufferer from bulimia nervosa whose gag reflex has finally given up than any Rose of Tralee in a pretty frock.
Where are the below figures from? They are used above to push for charges of genocide against the T.
'1,200,000 innocent civilians which has left in its wake 500,000 widows and five million-repeat Five Million orphans.'
By my reckoning they don't make much sense.
1.2million dead total
.5 mil must be married men to leave .5 mil widows.
That leaves .7 mil dead.
If we assume (unlikely but run with it) these are all married adults, then 350,000 fathers and 350,000 mothers could have passed away.
With this calculation each of those families would have to have an average of 14.3 surviving kids to leave 5 million orphans.
The sums don't work.
"I know in my heart of hearts that I have done no wrong and wronged no one."
(Prime Minister Bertie Ahern at http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0402/ahernb.html ).
"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
(Russian Communist Party Leader Vladimir Lenin at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin )
People don't often stop me on the street in far far away land to inquire why I put more effort into influencing the selection of the publically identified leaders of my class or ideological enemies than I do into worrying about shite like "would we have noticed how gummy Gormley was if the Greens hadn't yielded to ministerial portfolio temptation & entered the suicide pact which is a junior coalition partner to any FF administration?" . But continuing from the block of illustrations above which offered just 8 takes on the scope of Bertie's leadership & my last comment comparing modern Ireland's unconscious self-perception to a lifelong sufferer of bulimia nerviosa who has lost the gag reflex, I'd like to now excite serious tactical (as distinct from strategic) discussion amongst the left in Ireland on who will make a better replacement for Bertie Ahern, now that his previous ambition to run for the presidency in 2011 seems somewhat on a backburner. the tendency to think ahead is one of my more difficult contributions to recognise..,
Most people in Ireland seem to be stuck in the rut of the sleezey stuff & the Mahon shite. Naturally, your local media time has given as much to that as the British media gave to honours for cash leading up to Mr Blair's conversion to the Church of Rome. It would be hoped by now that those journalists of d'Olier street & other commercial newspapers who must be clapping each other on the backs (taking due caution not to knock the drunken hack off his/her barstool) are now combing the statements of the Brian "the brawny " Cowan ;-
on the Mahon Tribunal,
the Belfast Agreement which Gerry Adams talked about today to the Irish Times, converting to Catholicism,
laughing at Brazilian go-go dancers whilst standing next to Chavez,
how to disarm 9mm Willy O'Dea,
how to counterpoint nice Mr Brown,
how to work with either Hilary or Obama,
how to ensure Mary Harney that former FF rose for whose continued incompetence & wanton cruelty the current administration seems to have been tailor made,
who he wants as leader of the DUP now his FF will organise in the wee six counties,
how to keep the Independent TD's cushty & compliant & thus against all futurology hold this administration for full term,
The list goes on............oh yes..........it does............
You need more than a set of chins to lead both FF & replace Bertie. The Brits had it much easier on reflection. For years it was taken for granted that someday Tony Blair would leave having brought Orwell's wartime analysis of how perverse the British Labour movement would need become to move to the status of one party government and he would be replaced by Gordon Brown, not only as leader but in style and hard-to-see substance.
Is Brian "the brawn" Cowen up to the challenge of leading the sector of Irish society which considers itself the natural party of government any further - especially considering our mate Gerry hasn't called his swansong date yet? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. If they wanted more of the same and just a caretaker Taoiseach prepared to take it on the chin (labouring that joke sorry) they ought to have just invited Mary Harney (the sole TD for the rump of the PD party) back into the FF fold and given her the job of caretaker Taoiseach. That way, at least the lumpen Irish "on the piggy's back" class would have an opportunity to remember how their gag reflex worked & thus be properly prepared for any fiscal & economic downsizing which might just be around the corner.
At last, without boring ye, can I opine that it seems to be going well - nothing new or brilliant from the FF crew - no obvious realisation that the future leadership of the DUP and the USA really ought to have taken priority. Ye had so long of Bertie, and wanted him to go for so long, that ye possibly missed the point that a septic boil is sometimes best lanced under certain phases of the moon.
An Taoiseach Supreme: Saint Pádraig Partholán Ó hEachthairn (Aliases: Patrick Bartholomew Ahern, Bertie)
First Communion Class of 1959, St Patrick's National School, Drumcondra, Dublin.
The qeens head didnt appear on Bank of England notes until 1960
with Lady Lavery on one side (the wife of the painter John) posing as Erin (but with her tits covered) and the rivers Blackwater and Boyne on the other side respectively. That would be the river Blackwater in Munster now, for as all nit-pickers know there are three in Ireland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CBI_-_SERIES_A_-_TEN...E.PNG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CBI_-_SERIES_A_-_TWE...E.PNG
But having got out my reading lenses & sit closer to the computer screen I see Mike of the Judean Popular Peoples Front is correct. Young Bertie is holding a fistful of Series E Sterling notes & at the time of his first holy communion (bless him) he would have asking his mot of then to bring Series C notes to the AIB with depictions of Britannia on them. But of course the AIB itself did not start operating under that title until 1970. Previously though an incorporated (as the name "allied" suggests) bank its branches continued to operate under their previous names. I'd go out on a long shot here & suggest the wee Bertie's first young wan was asked to bring the wad to the cute hoor piggy bank .
taoiseach is joining the anti-poverty campaign, which will probably tie into the
Tony Blair Faith Foundation. (this is a corporate ecumenical service which defines God)
Please, someone wake me up.
1% of the worl'ds titled land is owned by women.
Anti-poverty means honesty and Geldof is a rich man with socialite daughters hunting
husband material not a one of these people know about poverty. not one.
Jaysus lads, I'd have to get up pretty early to get one over on you two
Thankfully most other people viewing it seem to have a life :)