Why do Govnment departments ignore vulnerable people and their contribution?

international | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis Wednesday September 27, 2006 22:35 by Michelle Clarke - Social Justice and anitics.

Research and organisations are mushrooming up but where is the future

Reuters: Leading world information source

Did you know?

'More die from Suicide than Wars, Murders'

Mental Health, Drug Addiction, Brain Injury Recovery, Addictions, eating disorders, anxiety, social anxiety, phobias, Fears, and so much more.

Where is the integration in policy..........Who understands and who really cares? The areas include social, community, education, health, the thread runs through society......even to the mentality of people driving cars and flying planes.....Yes, the big one is Stress - Anxiety - and Depression
it is said 25 % of people killed in RTA's are in fact Suicides. Let's get real.

Integration, co-operation, rehabilitative disciplines and teams to work on say people with mental health and neurological provlsion complicated by Chronic Fatigue syndrome while at the same time ensure that people are sufficiently alert and aware to physical conditions like cancer... The statistics and comparisons in this area make interesting reading.

To Dan Neville

Reminder re. earlier emails: ' Reuters 'More die from suicide than wars, murders'.

Our Services need money from Government or Philantrophists. Serious thought about psychiatric and neurological problems exist. Our services are way behind University College Hospital say in London and the US hospitals. We have the capabilities of providing the expertise to create new advances particularly in neurology in combination with psychiatric, and psychology.

One more point: Jail/Prison/Central Mental Hospital/Political Prisoner/Debtor........Why such a retributive system of incarceration? Why such inhumanity? Too many suicides and then the recent murder.

The Central Mental Hospital - location in the confines of community Dublin with potential at least for integration. Surely, people with illness ought not to be tainted with criminality. Is this not the reason for having the Central Mental Hospital in a separate location. Is it not meant to apply less stigma to people and their families? Can we not be more futuristic and compassionate and look to Restorative Justice models, like Denmark, where people with addictions and mental health problems are in separate units to those with other problems. The statistics are an interesting comparison in terms of recidivism.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle M. Clarke
To: liam.twomey@oireachtas.ie ; editor@irishhealth.com ; David O'Regan ; Cllr. Lucinda Creighton ; caoimhghin.ocaolain@oireachtas.ie
Cc: editor@medmedia.ie ; Connie Murphy ; Colin Murphy ; Christine Bradshaw ; Catriona McGloin ; Anna@mentalhealthireland.ie ; Ann Collins ; Ailis Ni Riain
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:35 PM

Subject: Grace woman and two children....suicide. Let people wake up to the inadequate provision of health services in Ireland. 'You ask why suicide, I say, as a user of the system, say Why Not!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle M. Clarke
To: tim_o'malley@health.irlgov.ie ; Anthony Cortes ; David O'Regan
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Fw: Improvement in Mental Health Services. This statement scares me. I am a service user at grassroots level.

Minister O'Malley

I expect a resonse to this letter (below are earlier letters not replied to) no matter how brief but just let it be effective. My treatmentt at a Public Hospital in Baggot Street placed my health in danger. I strive with great difficulty to live my life with ABI and Bipolar within the community but this is virtually impossible without equitable independent supports and devoid of personal agendas. The pharacist ay Boots Anne Marie Campbell and a friend were the only people that came to my rescue. You should visit the services in Baggot Street, organise funds from government and some philantrropic minded donor and motivate the staff and introduce multi-displinary facilities. You fail to realise the untapped potential of some people with psychiatric disorders.

There is a most interesting article on yesterday's Reuters section Health about Suicide epidemic. Deaths now exceed murders and those killed at war......What a loss of potential? NB the high number of suicides among doctors, vets, dentists......Why? Stigma, Fear, Shame is my personal experience.

I grew up hands on in a Dispensary practice in Meath, rural area, both parents doctors, virtually no time off. I felt like crying the other night when I viewed young doctors just out of College......Have we progressed no further? Sure is the survival of the toughest i.e. the greatest stamina, those who can do the longest hours, those who push out the barriers........I say again about our Universities and Supply and Demand to maintain extremely high salaries of a few. Let's make changes and encourge doctors in from Europe. Sweden and Finland - we could learn lot.

It is outlandish that neither Dr. Hillary IMC, the MHC, the HSE and certain ministers feel it necessary to reply.....What has happened to communication......lack of it will be our downfall.

Michelle Clarke.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle M. Clarke
To: tim_o'malley@health.irlgov.ie ; Anthony Cortes ; David O'Regan
Cc: Irish Association of Suicidology ; Dr Joe Carroll ; Barbara O Connell ; Barbara OConnell ; Cllr. Lucinda Creighton ; Clodagh O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Improvement in Mental Health Services. This statement scares me. I am a service user at grassroots level.

Minister O'Malley

I am surprised you can make such a report about the favourable report about Mental Health in Ireland.

Can you please tell me why I encounter such problems over the years with public services? Does anyone respond to people in Ireland anymore. The NDA definitely does not. (I may have had one or two but most definitely no response to my emails about Assistance Dogs. I noted their Accessibility Brouchure did not take account of Dogs and their hidden benefits like in the case of phobias or for people with head injuries.

All I need is a PA now and some home help (I am struggling since 1996 without consequence). Instead, I had my medications altered (not by a consultant) but by a junior doctor in Baggot Street, on a Friday. This is a community health centre for psychiatric illness and given the endangerment and negligence I experienced several months ago, I can only say Stigma and Denial still walk hand and hand in Ireland. Yes, Minister, I had a bad time. I have been on this dosage since hospital days in 1999 when it took 15 sessions of ECT to penetrate Darkness. I know enough of my own illness to know the element of trust that is required. I was transferred from my Consultant of 10 years to Baggot Street and after 6 months had never met the consultant there.

Suicide is in the open now but the reality is who is making it through to the core.....the window dressing is but a cover up for inept services.......where is the consistency? I have lost another family member to suicide and the dreams are not so nice when the medical profession refuse your offer of a list of your health details. I have included it for you to glance over, for your own view. I was made feel I was a spoilt neurotic and the diagnosis of Chronic Fatigue was totally ignored. Also let me say I am neither bitter or angry.

If asked the question about my dealings with Baggot Street, Dublin 4, as a public patient is nothing short of the introduction to the letter of complaint I made to the MHC, HSE, Reform grp, etc.....'You ask about why people commit suicide, I say why not? Dignity is the word used in the EU constitution. Dignity is the word that was used in Zimbabwe when as a volunteer I worked with Irish nuns in Mashambanzou, trying to help young women and children dying from HIV, yes full blown Aids. It was Dignity in life and Dignity in Death. This is respect.

I wrote a number of years ago but my health caved in further to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I became near bed ridden without any supports. 'They say the prohet is the man on the street' and in my case it proved to be. Kevin identified health situation and became the advocate. He was the man, who changed direction on Morehampton Road, and met me.........The pharmacist at Boots, Anne Theresa, contacted him......I was saved by pure fate from yet another dismal period. All I ask is for other people, like me, we need investment in services, we need compassion, we need funds from the like of Atlantic Resources and motivated staff.......This rests with you.

One more point, Mental Illness/suicide has become like a popular flavour with now 'safe' ingredients.
I worked in Corporate Finance in London pre. accident. There comes a time, when all the research committees have served their purpose......this is about Mergers and Acquisitions in business but so applies in research relating to health. Note the reports and submissions to each group vary little other than in the hours spent in the compilation of the evidence based research material. As a person with ABI, it is the computer that is the research tool via the web.....the time has come to use this effectively.......

Involve the people who are ill, review again the Trinity Horizon Programme of 1997, with a follow on and link to proactive research with Glaxo/Wellcome etc. companies. Why did we jeopardise the needs of people in need, particularly young children, addiction problems, psychiatric problems, neuorological problems - all related to the brain and lose the funds of the like of Chuck Feeney and Atlantic Philantropics because of a squabble as to which University or which department was more deserving. All we established is to name people who the 'few' didn't feel were entitled to the funds, for others whose entitlement could be questionable also.

Regards

Michelle Clarke

Jean Paul Sartre French Writer and Philosopher
War: 'When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die'

Add to this Sociologist Durkheim and his theory 'Anomie' Suicide

Yes, if there are rich people who want to share their wealth and expertise, I say yes. They have the acumen, the connections and a non bureaucratic style of management. It was Carnegie who left Ireland penniless and became the source of funds for Libraries throughout the States and in Ireland in the 20th century.........

----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle M. Clarke
To: tim_o'malley@health.irlgov.ie ; Anthony Cortes ; David O'Regan
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Fw: Improvement in Mental Health Services. This statement scares me. I am a service user at grassroots level.

Minister O'Malley

I expect a resonse to this letter (below are earlier letters not replied to) no matter how brief but just let it be effective. My treatmentt at a Public Hospital in Baggot Street placed my health in danger. I strive with great difficulty to live my life with ABI and Bipolar within the community but this is virtually impossible without equitable independent supports and devoid of personal agendas. The pharacist ay Boots Anne Marie Campbell and a friend were the only people that came to my rescue. You should visit the services in Baggot Street, organise funds from government and some philantrropic minded donor and motivate the staff and introduce multi-displinary facilities. You fail to realise the untapped potential of some people with psychiatric disorders.

There is a most interesting article on yesterday's Reuters section Health about Suicide epidemic. Deaths now exceed murders and those killed at war......What a loss of potential? NB the high number of suicides among doctors, vets, dentists......Why? Stigma, Fear, Shame is my personal experience.

I grew up hands on in a Dispensary practice in Meath, rural area, both parents doctors, virtually no time off. I felt like crying the other night when I viewed young doctors just out of College......Have we progressed no further? Sure is the survival of the toughest i.e. the greatest stamina, those who can do the longest hours, those who push out the barriers........I say again about our Universities and Supply and Demand to maintain extremely high salaries of a few. Let's make changes and encourge doctors in from Europe. Sweden and Finland - we could learn lot.

It is outlandish that neither Dr. Hillary IMC, the MHC, the HSE and certain ministers feel it necessary to reply.....What has happened to communication......lack of it will be our downfall.

Michelle Clarke.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michelle M. Clarke
To: tim_o'malley@health.irlgov.ie ; Anthony Cortes ; David O'Regan
Cc: Irish Association of Suicidology ; Dr Joe Carroll ; Barbara O Connell ; Barbara OConnell ; Cllr. Lucinda Creighton ; Clodagh O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Improvement in Mental Health Services. This statement scares me. I am a service user at grassroots level.

Minister O'Malley

I am surprised you can make such a report about the favourable report about Mental Health in Ireland.

Can you please tell me why I encounter such problems over the years with public services? Does anyone respond to people in Ireland anymore. The NDA definitely does not. (I may have had one or two but most definitely no response to my emails about Assistance Dogs. I noted their Accessibility Brouchure did not take account of Dogs and their hidden benefits like in the case of phobias or for people with head injuries.

All I need is a PA now and some home help (I am struggling since 1996 without consequence). Instead, I had my medications altered (not by a consultant) but by a junior doctor in Baggot Street, on a Friday. This is a community health centre for psychiatric illness and given the endangerment and negligence I experienced several months ago, I can only say Stigma and Denial still walk hand and hand in Ireland. Yes, Minister, I had a bad time. I have been on this dosage since hospital days in 1999 when it took 15 sessions of ECT to penetrate Darkness. I know enough of my own illness to know the element of trust that is required. I was transferred from my Consultant of 10 years to Baggot Street and after 6 months had never met the consultant there.

Suicide is in the open now but the reality is who is making it through to the core.....the window dressing is but a cover up for inept services.......where is the consistency? I have lost another family member to suicide and the dreams are not so nice when the medical profession refuse your offer of a list of your health details. I have included it for you to glance over, for your own view. I was made feel I was a spoilt neurotic and the diagnosis of Chronic Fatigue was totally ignored. Also let me say I am neither bitter or angry.

If asked the question about my dealings with Baggot Street, Dublin 4, as a public patient is nothing short of the introduction to the letter of complaint I made to the MHC, HSE, Reform grp, etc.....'You ask about why people commit suicide, I say why not? Dignity is the word used in the EU constitution. Dignity is the word that was used in Zimbabwe when as a volunteer I worked with Irish nuns in Mashambanzou, trying to help young women and children dying from HIV, yes full blown Aids. It was Dignity in life and Dignity in Death. This is respect.

I wrote a number of years ago but my health caved in further to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I became near bed ridden without any supports. 'They say the prohet is the man on the street' and in my case it proved to be. Kevin identified health situation and became the advocate. He was the man, who changed direction on Morehampton Road, and met me.........The pharmacist at Boots, Anne Theresa, contacted him......I was saved by pure fate from yet another dismal period. All I ask is for other people, like me, we need investment in services, we need compassion, we need funds from the like of Atlantic Resources and motivated staff.......This rests with you.

One more point, Mental Illness/suicide has become like a popular flavour with now 'safe' ingredients.
I worked in Corporate Finance in London pre. accident. There comes a time, when all the research committees have served their purpose......this is about Mergers and Acquisitions in business but so applies in research relating to health. Note the reports and submissions to each group vary little other than in the hours spent in the compilation of the evidence based research material. As a person with ABI, it is the computer that is the research tool via the web.....the time has come to use this effectively.......

Involve the people who are ill, review again the Trinity Horizon Programme of 1997, with a follow on and link to proactive research with Glaxo/Wellcome etc. companies. Why did we jeopardise the needs of people in need, particularly young children, addiction problems, psychiatric problems, neuorological problems - all related to the brain and lose the funds of the like of Chuck Feeney and Atlantic Philantropics because of a squabble as to which University or which department was more deserving. All we established is to name people who the 'few' didn't feel were entitled to the funds, for others whose entitlement could be questionable also.

Regards

Michelle Clarke

Jean Paul Sartre French Writer and Philosopher
War: 'When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die'

Add to this Sociologist Durkheim and his theory 'Anomie' Suicide

Yes, if there are rich people who want to share their wealth and expertise, I say yes. They have the acumen, the connections and a non bureaucratic style of management. It was Carnegie who left Ireland penniless and became the source of funds for Libraries throughout the States and in Ireland in the 20th century.........