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Who runs the union?

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Monday May 22, 2006 23:11author by Patrique - NIPSA Report this post to the editors

Stalinism or Democracy?

NIPSA conference meets next week to decide policies and principles. But who decides these, the members and branches, or General Council.

Someone on another thread helpfully mentioned Stalingrad in a post, which set me to thinking about Joe Stalin. Now Joe had this system known as "Democratic Centralism", whereby the party elected an inner sanctum, and the inner sanctum ruled on behalf of the party, they made all the decisions, and could not be questioned by the party membership.

Having looked at Category X on the conference agenda, I was wondering if the NIPSA General Council believe that NIPSA adhers to Democratic Centralism. Category X contains the motions ruled out of order, and many are ruled out on the grounds "that General Council does this, you cannot tell General Council what to do".

Now look at the NIPSA constitution. Rule 5.1 states: " The Annual General Conference shall determine the principles and policies of the Union". That is all it says, no more, no less.

Now look at rule 6.1: "Between meetings of the Delegate Conference, the general management and control of the union and the handling of the whole affairs shall be VESTED in the General Council (hereinafter referred to as The Council). The Council shall conduct its affairs in accordance with these rules, and with the principles and policies of the Union as determined by the Delegate Conference".

So it would appear that General Council can only act on behalf of Delegate Conference. So why are motions ruled out of order on the grounds that you cannot tell General Council what to do? The constitution clearly states that conference tell them what to do.

Comments welcome, especially if they can enlighten me, and explain this apparent contradiction to the constitution.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Union runner     Colm    Fri May 26, 2006 19:31 
   Who runs the union     Patrique    Fri May 26, 2006 22:37 
   read the rules     Con Stitution    Sat May 27, 2006 00:20 
   constitution     patrique    Sat May 27, 2006 01:07 
   Could it be     all knowing all seeing    Wed May 31, 2006 19:25 
   Never was a sinking ship abandoned with such alacrity and     Alacrity    Thu Jun 01, 2006 13:21 
   Who Runs The Union?     Big Brother    Fri Jun 02, 2006 17:47 
   success     Patrique    Fri Jun 02, 2006 19:31 
   Success?     Big Brother    Fri Jun 02, 2006 21:36 
 10   How many patriques?     patrique    Fri Jun 02, 2006 22:19 
 11   the wheels on the bus     stroppy    Sat Jun 03, 2006 01:23 
 12   ?     O    Sat Jun 03, 2006 13:47 
 13   Time For Change Election     Big Brother    Sat Jun 03, 2006 17:09 
 14   CSG     O    Sat Jun 03, 2006 19:17 
 15   directions from the bus     stroppy    Sat Jun 03, 2006 19:30 
 16   rumour?     patrique    Sat Jun 03, 2006 20:55 
 17   well take on me     stroppy    Sat Jun 03, 2006 21:53 
 18   Who runs the union     Certainly not above the parapet    Sat Jun 03, 2006 23:21 
 19   The ego has landed     Geoff Cowden    Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:53 
 20   Geoff can't seee the wood for the trees     What about the truth    Sun Jun 04, 2006 16:56 
 21   Real debate     No egos here    Sun Jun 04, 2006 19:02 
 22   Whistle blowing     patrique    Sun Jun 04, 2006 19:35 
 23   Imposters     Patrique    Sun Jun 04, 2006 19:38 
 24   union bus-ting     stroppy    Mon Jun 05, 2006 00:55 
 25   no word?     O    Mon Jun 05, 2006 01:00 
 26   silly trolls     stroppy    Mon Jun 05, 2006 01:07 
 27   I have no voice.     patrique    Mon Jun 05, 2006 01:49 
 28   By the way.     Patrique    Mon Jun 05, 2006 01:54 
 29   respect     i'm back    Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:45 
 30   Keep it up     Sometime Supporter    Mon Jun 05, 2006 14:29 
 31   political nous     patrique    Mon Jun 05, 2006 16:28 
 32   spelling     patrique    Mon Jun 05, 2006 16:32 
 33   Conference     dave topping - conference delegate    Mon Jun 05, 2006 16:38 
 34   Naivity     CB    Mon Jun 05, 2006 17:14 
 35   BREAD AND BUTTER     THE ICEMAN    Mon Jun 05, 2006 21:58 
 36   Bread and buttter     TMcK    Mon Jun 05, 2006 23:28 
 37   Double Standards     Confused    Tue Jun 06, 2006 13:01 
 38   revolution     brian broth    Tue Jun 06, 2006 16:52 
 39   you are confused     patrique    Tue Jun 06, 2006 20:07 
 40   riots     Patrique    Tue Jun 06, 2006 20:08 
 41   bus womans holiday     stroppy    Tue Jun 06, 2006 20:14 
 42   shame     Patrique    Tue Jun 06, 2006 21:54 
 43   rosa parks she aint     stroppy    Wed Jun 07, 2006 01:26 
 44   Is this NIPSA?     O    Wed Jun 07, 2006 09:34 
 45   Wassat,then?     Typical member    Mon Jun 12, 2006 13:53 
 46   O,really?     The Horned Beast Of Armageddon    Tue Jun 13, 2006 13:43 
 47   nor me     Patrique    Wed Jun 14, 2006 23:22 
 48   whos driving the bus     stroppy    Thu Jun 15, 2006 00:06 
 49   News For TFC's Useful Fool Wing     Captain Stoutheart    Fri Jun 16, 2006 13:56 
 50   SP and TFC     patrique    Fri Jun 16, 2006 19:05 
 51   union bus-ting     stroppy    Sat Jun 17, 2006 18:49 
 52   rainbow     Patrique    Mon Jun 19, 2006 23:33 
 53   rainbow omnibus edition     stroppy    Tue Jun 20, 2006 02:07 
 54   Workers' strike?     The Coelacanth    Tue Jun 20, 2006 15:17 
 55   political fund     Sean    Tue Jun 20, 2006 15:23 
 56   political fund     Patrique    Tue Jun 20, 2006 19:23 
 57   politicalfunds for use of SP     stroppy    Wed Jun 21, 2006 01:00 
 58   crimes and misdemeaners     Patrique    Wed Jun 21, 2006 22:00 
 59   end of bus-iness     stroppy    Thu Jun 22, 2006 00:44 
 60   In their own words........     Lieutenant Pigeon    Thu Jun 22, 2006 14:15 
 61   Clearing something up     Mark P    Thu Jun 22, 2006 14:46 
 62   bureaucrats?     patrique    Thu Jun 22, 2006 23:41 
 63   Everyone needs a hobby     The Devil    Fri Jun 23, 2006 13:37 
 64   Patrique     Mark P    Fri Jun 23, 2006 14:21 
 65   Mudding the waters     Red Fred    Fri Jun 23, 2006 20:58 
 66   The Reality Of Bureacracy     Sir Pellinore Gwayne-Cust    Sat Jun 24, 2006 15:15 
 67   A brief and hopefully final reply     Mark P    Mon Jun 26, 2006 13:44 
 68   unlike yourself of course ....     amanda allaway    Mon Jun 26, 2006 18:28 
 69   the members don't run the union     Tim Clarke    Mon Jun 26, 2006 21:20 
 70   reserved seats     ...    Mon Jun 26, 2006 21:27 
 71   the left and the unions     Tim Clarke    Mon Jun 26, 2006 22:08 
 72   Come on Tim     patrique    Tue Jun 27, 2006 22:11 
 73   Unity is Strength     Tim Clarke    Wed Jun 28, 2006 01:42 
 74   come on Tim     Patrique    Sat Jul 01, 2006 00:09 
 75   Who Runs The Union?     Big Brother    Mon Aug 14, 2006 23:20 
 76   Official Requiem     Ray Krebbs    Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:55 
 77   when the votes are in.....     vote counter    Tue Sep 26, 2006 14:31 
 78   elections     Patrique    Tue Sep 26, 2006 23:25 
 79   Who Runs The Union?     Big Brother    Thu Sep 28, 2006 23:53 
 80   elections     Patrique    Sat Sep 30, 2006 00:17 
 81   It's hammer time......     Thor    Wed Oct 18, 2006 00:33 
 82   Who Runs The Union?     Big Brother    Thu Oct 19, 2006 22:46 
 83   Ears Burning?     Old Tom Merry    Sat Oct 21, 2006 17:17 
 84   Elected to serve     stroppy    Sat Oct 21, 2006 23:37 
 85   Time For Thatcherism?     Brother Justin    Sun Oct 22, 2006 15:38 
 86   Back to Basics     Scratch    Thu Nov 02, 2006 20:55 
 87   Who Runs The Union?     Big Brother    Sat Nov 04, 2006 01:00 
 88   working class heroes     stroppy    Sat Nov 04, 2006 01:55 
 89   AGM speaker     patrique    Sat Nov 04, 2006 15:35 
 90   Use your head     Trade unionist    Mon Nov 06, 2006 14:10 
 91   Common sense talks well.     The Wing of Nut - nipsa    Mon Nov 06, 2006 18:50 
 92   And another thing     Scratching my head    Thu Nov 09, 2006 13:53 
 93   Politics     MB    Fri Dec 01, 2006 17:01 
 94   Who Runs The Union     Big Brother    Mon Aug 13, 2007 21:57 


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