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Out of site, Out of mind -Travellers in Ballymun
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Monday March 27, 2006 19:09 by Nina dublinnina at gmail dot com
Report from Travellers' Meeting in Ballymun
St. Margaret’s Park is a 30 bay permanent halting site sandwiched between 2 busy roads on the outskirts of Ballymun. There are currently 63 families living in a space originally designed to accommodate 30 families. There is no playground and no safe pedestrian access to and from the site. Families on the site have been living without electricity on and off for three past 5 months.
There are a myriad of problems facing residents in St. Margaret’s in terms of the overall standard of accommodation, the most immediate one at present being the lack of electricity.
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17Best wishes to the St Margarets travellers and thanks for the report Nina. They are spending billions on the so-called regeneration of Ballymun - how much of that is going to the travelling community ?
Well done to all concerned. Racism against Travellers in endemic throughout the State. All local authorities are guilty, both officials and the elected councillors from the right-wing parties. One way this can be defeated is by both Travellers and Settled people uniting to fight together. Links should also be made with other groups fighting racism. Until this evil is defeated no establishment politician should be given a platform by any anti-racist group.
"They are spending billions on the so-called regeneration of Ballymun - how much of that is going to the travelling community?"
I had a very quick look at the website for Ballymun regeneration, complete with front page ad for Lisney real estate agents. I only had time for a quick look around the site and at the FAQ - funny enough, I didn't see any mention of the travelling community...
http://www.brl.ie
Thanks for the report Nina! This is a quality Indymedia article! It reminds me of the missing Yugoslav Roma population. They were made "missing" during the wars in the 90s by all sides (including of course NATO bombing and western-trained KLA gangs). Likewise they continue to be "missing" from almost every time the corporate media recalls the expulsion and killings -- the ethnic cleansing -- in the former Yugoslavia.
Although travellers are not the only people with them there, I think that having horses in housing estates or in fields, where it cannot be assured that they are being properly looked after, is a disgrace.
I am totally in favour of building thousands of more houses for travellers but that doesn't mean we can't critcise them as well.
Give it a break, they are putting illegal taps on the power supply and blowing out the fuses. Theft is theft. I pay my ESB whats so special that these people can not. Maybe if they paid their bills like I have to the ESB and DCC would be more helpful. You cant help people if all they do is hold meetings and moan. Clean the place up and make a go of it and watch people come to your aid. Sit and moan and it is just the same old woe is us. In the end you get sick of it and thats from somebody who has spent most of his adult life helping and supporting various grops.
The travellers at the meeting said that they wanted their own individual meters so that each familly could be responsible for paying for their own electricity. Dublin Council representives at the meeting refused this request. It seems that DCC has one rule for members of its settled community, and another for travellers.
(I suspect that you work for DCC and so know this already)
With regard to people paying for electricity on the site, it was made quite clear at the meeting that Travellers will pay for an adequate service. Yes, people have to pay for services but not for a service that consistently fails as is what happens with the electricity on St. Margaret's site. This is not a payment issue. The problem is that the supply to the site is inadequate. Like many issues that affect Travellers, assuptions are made that it is all the Travellers fault, yet this is not the case. Far from moaning, they have stood up in a very organised way to demand basic human rights. Well done to all concerned.
Documentary
Gypsy Wars
Mon 3 Apr at 23:20 on BBC Two
Depending on which paper you read, gypsies are either spongers and the scourge of society or a respectable community of people who have chosen a different way of life.
Filmed over eight months, Gypsy Wars offers a unique insight into the often violent confrontations between local residents and the travellers who set up camp in their 'back yard'.
Three films explore the lives of those who live on either side of the divide: travellers driven from town to town by the law, forced into huge illegal sites; and residents waging solitary campaigns defending their own 'human rights'.
Not for the faint-hearted, the series delivers stories of eviction, destruction, revolt and murder.
Gypsy Wars reveals the jagged relationship between people who see themselves on the verge of civil war.
Programme One
Dale Farm is the biggest Irish travellers' site in Europe. A self-contained world of concrete and caravans in the heart of the Essex countryside. Now the travellers face eviction - and the barricades are going up. As the deadline approaches, cameras follow the inside story of the embattled travellers and the local residents they've enraged.
Programme Two
Irish gypsies have descended on the picture postcard village of Cottenham. They've settled on the orchard owned by conservationist Joanna Gordon-Clark. Now she's determined to get it back - in the face of threats of violence and intimidation. In Cottenham, Middle England has begun the fight back against the traveller invasions.
Programme Three
In March, an Irish traveller was shot dead on a site in the heart of suburban Surrey. The killing brought to a head the clash of cultures between the settled and travelling communities. Out on the open road with the cousin of the murdered man, cameras tell the inside story of gypsy life - searching for work, setting up camp in parks, and dodging the police and the bailiffs
We would like to say that we are thoroughly disgusted at the inhumane way that all travellers are traeted. This is a brilliant example of the prejudice shown toward them. What have they done to deserve this? Nearly every home in the UK and Republic of Ireland has continuous running electricity, it is now seen as a necessity. Depriving them of it is creul and ridiculous. At the end of the day, they are just going about their lives they way they are brought up to do. It is what's culturally right for them.
We have been on many occasions within close proximity to travellers, and find them lovely, caring people who are funny. Basically they are just normal people and don't deserve this treatment!!
I wonder if the reason the power fuses keep blowing have anything to do with the fact that they are tapping the supply, somehow i think it does ehhh, be honest ffs, they obviously are not. Also just because someone is related to another--that gives them the right to live next to each other?? err no dont think so--if the site is overcrowded move some to another site, yeh id like free electricity,no rent,no council fees and to live next to all my relations but if i went to the local council and said that they would laugh at me--and ya know what, i couldnt blame em, and as far as meters go--if they are tapping the supply allready --what do you think would happen with the meters, they would be destroyed within a week, ya know if you start treating things with a little respect--you get it back---but it has to be earned,just like anything for any person in life,
The work done to provide for services by the actual travellers on site in Ballymun themselves is tremendous... it is the authorities who are really holding back better facilities for IRISH CITIZENS which is unacceptable in this day and age, don't even start to presume it is a situation of unwillingness to pay for services, those who are (nearly all) are prevented from doing so by planning permission laws which are pointless, defunct, and unless in such situations. Another issue is that the services provided on site are largely done so by the travellers and members of the travelling community themselves... as I said, it is the state who is holding back the proper development and social integration of the traveling people, not themselves...
No I don't have any direct links to the travelling community, but I am an MD of a media group which knows alot of the background to such schemes... Don't prejudge, if you really want to change things, listen to the people, and help them in a fair, unbias and just way.
Questions
Why are Travellers allowed to avail of social welfare and the health care service when they don't pay taxes? Is this very fair?
Why are critics of the Traveller way of life branded as "Racists", are travellers not caucasian or have they invented their own race?
What do travellers contribute to society?
dont no what you mean
hi i am a 17 year old traveler boy from st margarets halting site and i just want to say we suffer with out electric in the site and kids cant have shower because the electric is off and the hot water is always of and people say why are we on the labor well we cant get jobs because we are travelers and people think they cant trust travelers well i think travelers should be treated the same way as settle people every traveler in the halting site should be housed so they can look after there own electric and there will be less complaint's in to the social
so i just want to tank you for reading this
from a traveler boy in st margarets halting site
I'm sure some of them are. Who knows whats in any of our backgrounds for sure?
Many of the Irish Travellers, if you look at the names, are from the general stock of the population and carry the names even of what would be considered the old Gaelic chieftains. Some of the Roma history is traced back to India over centuries of migration. I'd say the reason they want ethnic recognition could be because they are treated as alien by our authorities and by the settled culture and discriminated against over generations, but particularly in the last half century as their sources of economic survival have been overtaken by mechanisation and cheap durable household goods. And as stated the settled population no longer offers employment in what is a very conservative and genealogically fixated society.
I've lived in South Africa under apartheid and I've seen(and travelled with)Australian Aborigines and how they were treated by the racial superiority-complex of that Anglophone culture, which seems to identify with some spurious Caucasian/Aryan racist delusion they do not share the same gene bank as ALL of the one and actually only HUMAN race.
In short the racial difference seem to have been projected ONTO the traveller population by the dominant Anglo/Irish culture as a sort of a rollover of the old Penal law racial discrimination imposed by the invading easterners who took over the land and displaced the previous landholding culture which was less inflexible. I suspect this is a resentment of the current owners of the dormant rights of these evicted people, just as the Zionist settlers in Palestine have to dehumanise the previous owners and deny their rights.
I'm sure someone will point out where I lost the plot. If I had it back, sure I could plant a spud.
Oh, and what does the Voltaire Society contribute to society?They never lent me a fiver yet.