CW5 Re-Trial Collapses

by eeekkkk Mon Nov 07, 2005 21:57

Enquiring minds want to know? It seems (surreally) convenient for a state that wants a conviction at all costs that a mate of Tom Delay and a regular in texas would be on the bench for this case in particular.

by observer2 Mon Nov 07, 2005 22:14

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by Deirdre Clancy - Pitstop Ploughshares Mon Nov 07, 2005 23:28

This is a fantastic rendition of this morning's events.

by Elaine Tue Nov 08, 2005 00:08

Or a Thrilling Ride, as Dublin Bus would have it.

Prepare For A Thrilling Ride - Ciaron Addresses The Crowd At The Spire

Buddhists, Moslems And Christians - Sheltering Under The Same Tree

Liz Consults Iraqi Doctor Zahir

Paul And Colm Enjoying The Early Morning Sunlight

Martin O'Sullivan And Damien

by Elaine Tue Nov 08, 2005 00:23

that something was happening. Everybody crowded in to the small room leaving the banners taped to the ground and a Buddhist maintaining the vigil outside. Suddenly it was all over ( for a while ) and the Champagne corks popped, and no doubt are still popping, in Dublin tonight.

Banners Stuck To The Ground - Holders Ran Into Court To Witness The Unfolding Saga

Five Get Deja Vu At The Four Courts

Damien Gets Interviewed

Hospitality In The Green Room - Cheers Ciaron

by Charles Boylan - Wake Up With Co-Op! Vancouver BC Tue Nov 08, 2005 01:06 charles_boylan at telus dot com 1-778-772-8550

Good work all of you! Congratulations to an alert, vigilant defence team. Bravo. Look forward to interviewing Ciaron soon.

Charles Boylan

by abihanuse Tue Nov 08, 2005 01:20

The president of the Circuit Criminal Court, Donegal man Michael White, allocated Judge Frank O'Donnell (ex-PD Candidate) for the March trial and Donagh MacDonagh for the farce that unfolded today. Frank was cunning enough in the first trial to order the media from reporting as to why he was discharging the jury and removing himself from the case at the request of the defendants through their counsel.

Maybe Donagh was so hungary for a sandwich or a pint this afternoon that after he had discharged the jury, he scurried into his chambers to defrock and possibly ring and inform Tom or George to close the cupboards and prevent any more skeletons from rattling his credibility.

But his belly was bigger than his brain, in that he forgot to order the mainstream media to shut their traps (which they are pretty good at doing) and not report the reasons for the mistrial.

So Judge Michael White may, after giving a few lashes of the cane to Frank and Donagh, haul in the rest of the available circuit criminal court judges back to the judicial classroom and ask them to lay bare whether they believe the Catholic Worker 5 receive lethal injection, an honorary vacation to Mountjoy B-Wing, incarceration in Green st. dungeons alongside Billy the Bowl, or fair trial! Huh, fat chance of the latter.......

Hope this helps answer the question posted.

by Docko Tue Nov 08, 2005 02:38

I am also impressed by this very good summary of the events of the day.

I was also in court throughout the day, but found the detail of the legal arguments too tedious to be easily summarised. I was perplexed by the logic of Judge McDonagh's application of objective criteria and interpretation of Mr Oxlee's testimony to rule against the defence of "lawful excuse".

Just one point where there seems to be a slight discrepancy: Although, as I remember events, the judge initially agreed without hesitation that he had attended a photo-call in connection with a barristers' conference he attended in Houston, Texas, in 1995, and that he had attended Mr Bush's initial inauguration, he subsequently stated that the defence counsel's allegations were "half right and half wrong", or some very similar phrase.

I think we must take him at his word when he says that the allegations are partially and not entirely true, but I cannot discern which details might be incorrect. Perhaps he would deny that Tom DeLay had invited him to attend this year's inauguration? Or perhaps he would deny that he had failed to attend?

Counsel for the prosecution kindly provided details of the two cases mentioned above, which he thought might be considered similar, but which he himself did not think were similar.

Although he asserted that he did not intend to tip the ruling one way or the other, Mr Devally stated that he thought that the judge's attendance at a presidential inauguration would be irrelevant, since such an event might be "attended by all ranks", including laypeople and officials. Here, he emphasised the word "all". If I believed this, I would be left perplexed as to why none of the many Americans of my acquaintance was invited. It is not that I do not know Americans of many different ranks, including former officers of the armed forces and intelligence services, university lecturers, doctors, teachers and translators. Republicans, Democrats and others.

Further, Mr Devally stated that he would differentiate between the cases, because, in the other cases, the judges had taken public positions on the broader political matters providing the context for the cases. But, he repeated, he did not want to tip the matter one way or the other.

The judge said that he would not permit his social life to be discussed openly, and invited the defence counsel to discuss the matter with him in his chambers.

And the rest is history.

The invitation to discuss his activities behind closed doors suggests to me that the judge's trips to the United States were not limited to professional activities, but included extraneous social activities - a mixture of business and pleasure that might indeed, dependent on the company he kept, give rise to perceptions of bias among those who might not know that he is above such weakness.

I later met a friend who was able to summarise the dramatic turn of events by which the jury was discharged, which he said he had seen on the news. Did anybody else see that?

by Gary MacLennan - QUT Tue Nov 08, 2005 03:17 g.maclennan at qut dot edu dot au 39 Denham Street Annerley Brisbane Qld. Australia (7) 3393 2626

Heartiest congratulations to all the CW5. Truly you are an inspiration each and everyone of you.

As for you Ciaron, I am delighted that my resolution to write to you in prison will not be put to the test (just yet!).

I am so pleased for you.

Will ring your father and chat over the good news with him.

Stay strong

ae

Gary

by Seán Ryan Tue Nov 08, 2005 04:15

"Judge" Donagh, seems to be a bit of an idiot. At the very least that is. He could be a whole lot more or a whole lot less I suppose, but it all revolves around Donagh not possessing an intellect. Well at least the defence waited until Donagh had soiled himself somewhat with his perverted notions about the nature of what constitutes a threat, before pointing out that being a friend of the alleged war criminal might constitute a conflict of interest considering that the defenders were being tried for attacking property that was ultimately under the direction of the very same alleged war criminal.

Let's look at the actions of Sgt. Jimmy Massey again. Jimmy says he was under orders to shoot civilians. Now before Jimmy goes to kill these civilians he is offering them threat. Had someone stopped him from actually killing these citizens they would have been covered by the use of justifiable force under the Non-Fatal Offences against the Person Act. I agree with Donagh here somewhat in that JImmy Massey no longer posed a threat to those he had already killed. However where Donagh and I part company is that I reckon that Jimmy at the point where he actually kills some of the people he has offered threat to, now constitutes a greater danger to the civilian population, in that he has now offered proof of his threat.

Anyways I don't want to dwell on the legalistic loopholes that we, from a National viewpoint can and will use, to justify the murderous and genocidal acts of the USA. I'm ashamed of my country enough as it is.

All I really want to do is to wish the five defenders (not defendants) well. And to offer my condolences that their struggle and attempted humiliation is far from over.

It seems that we have evolved a new democratic practice of dictatorship. Ie. we will be offered the same choice again and again until we choose what we are supposed to choose. For example remember the Nice referendum roundabout fiasco or maybe the "try and try again" methodology that was used to convict another defender, Mary Kelly.

But know this. The powers that be are ultimately cowards; you will be convicted, but your punishment will be minimal, probably a lot less punishing that the ordeal you currently find yourselves smothered by.

The little dog barks, it's true, but it is only because he is a cringing mongrel, who wants his master to think otherwise.

Our reversed democracy (ie. a system where it's "power from the people" as opposed to "power to the people.") is crumbling, and its wake will be the greatest party Ireland has ever known.

Keep the faith.

Sláinte.

Seán Ryan

by Who's the Mug? Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:25

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html

Mug shot from when DeLay was arrested on conspiracy and money laundering charges.

by Curious Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:26

Why did the original judge remove himself from the case?

by Response Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:35

First judge removed himself due to "perceived prejudice", do you notice a theme here. Can these people get a fair trial in such a servile state as Ireland?

by Update Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:37

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

by Righteous Pragmatist Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:54

The fact is that prior to the invasion of 2003 Iraq was a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by Saddam Hussein and now in 2005 Iraq is a constitutional democracy - millions of Iraqis have voted in January and October and will vote again next month in overwhelming numbers in support of democratic politics.

If George W. Bush had not defied the United Nations Security Council and chosen to leave Saddam in power millions of Iraqis would still be under Hussein's tyrannical rule.

I cannot for the life of me understand why the anti-war movement was were opposed to fighting a monstrous fascist dicator who killed more than three million people over more than thirty years of barbarism?

Would you rather see an entire nation still in chains just for the satisfaction of seeing Bush humiliated? Are you that politically shallow or are you completely psychotic?

by guydebordisdead Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:04

There's more than one way to oust a despot, killing thousands of civilians and destroying the infrastructure U.S. style isn't entirely desirable.

What made the U.S. prioritise Iraq over any of the other despotic regimes in the wolrd?

Was it oil?

No?

by Tim Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:14

Sorry RP, no-one's bothered with you today...

The previous judge was smart enough to put a ban on the press reporting the exact reason for the collapse... so his behaviour, disgraceful as it was, was not reported.

The current judge must have forgotten to do it in his excitement.

It says that the state doesn't believe in it's own rhetoric about the rule of law.... they're afraid to allow a jury decide freely on this issue with the full facts in front of them. I was in court for most of the trial, and I think the jury got to hear an awful lot that the Irish public hasn't seen and heard, and how 5 people acting with no self interest, damaged part of the war machine that had already done so much harm to people in Iraq, and was about to step up several gears. The prosecutor was losing his attempts to paint the act as 'protest' instead of attempt to protect life, so the next thing was to try to deny the existence of Section 6 of the very act that the 5 were charged under, the bit where one can damage property if it is done to save life, and the jury had already heard an RAF logistics expert explain the circumstances how this action could be portrayed as doing that... so they had the objective test of what the effect was intended to be, and the simple decency, dignity, and bravery of the defendants on the stand showed the jury that they were concerned individuals motivated to save lives, not a bunch of unsophisticated hot-heads trying to make a political point.

The state has been denying so much about Shannon for so long and sticking to a bad hymn sheet, they're not willing to risk a jury of ordinary, unelected people to give a contrary opinion.

Fair play to the defendants and their legal teams!

by Still curious Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:30

But does anybody know what O'Donnell's perceived prejudice was?

by observer2 Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:59

Apparently the connection between him and Bush, he met bush in texas in the 90's and was invited to his inauguration, could cause a "perception" in the eyes of an average person that he might, now only might, be a wee bit on the U.S side as far as imperialist occupation of soverign nations is concerned.

This is aside from his admission that he is a pilot with"some knowledge of 737's and C-30's!!!!!

Of course there is also the question of how he came to meet bush, what were the conferences? were thry about law or were they about how to correctly shake a brothers hand!

by Kevin Mannerings Tue Nov 08, 2005 13:13

The court report from Anon Court Reporter was a brilliant job, well done whoever you are.
And well done whoever spotted the Bush connection and its legal significance. Can anyone spill the beans on who noticed it? When can we expect the next episode of this saga?

by Just Thinking Tue Nov 08, 2005 13:15

Wasn't he awarded 90 grand for a libel case he brought against the Sun (I think they said he was a provo fellow traveller) and wasn't he the FF barrister in the Briscoe/Eric Byrne 5 or 6 votes either way stand off at one of the general elections?

by Eoin Dubsky Tue Nov 08, 2005 13:17

The Pitstop Ploughshares 5 have been put through enough at this stage.

They're right when they say that the inconvenience caused by their bail conditions and impending/collapsing trials is nothing compared with what Iraqis are going through right now. Their action was done in the context of what's going on in Iraq, that's true.

But these collapsing trials must be judged in the context of Ireland and Irish law too. Someone else has brought up the Nice referendii, and the disgrace that it was.

The ICCL and everyone else who is interested in civil rights and justice in Ireland shouldn't stand for this punishment without conviction that's dragging on for almost three years now.

The PSP 5 must have spent thousands and thousands by now to get their witnesses and research together for each of these trials. Not to speak of the strain on their spirits.

The prosecution has had two test runs now. If it goes to another re-trial we'll see -- like the borg -- the prosecution fine tune their attack based on the defences and testimony that they now know will come up. That's the exact opposite of what's supposed to happen (defence shouldn't have to show their cards until they play them).

by eeekkkkk Tue Nov 08, 2005 13:41

they did jail time at time of the action and three years of having movements limited since. If another trial is scheduled for say 8-10 months time the vindictiveness of the state will be clear to all.

by abihainsidenuse Tue Nov 08, 2005 13:58

As the boys and gals on Dorset st. say in the lead up to a match at Croke Park: This is the 'Official Program' or 'Official Pogrom'?

The following is interaction between counsel for the defendants and the judge is verbatim.

*************************************************
Starring:

*Mr. Nix SC for Karen Fallon, defendant
*Judge Donagh MacDonagh
*Mr. Roderick O'Hanlon SC for Damien Moran and Ciaron O'Reilly, defendants
*Mr. Michael O'Higgins SC for Deirdre Clancy and Nuin Dunlop

*************************************************
Act IV Scene i:

MR NIX: I think my friends may have gone to the Library, my lord, to get a book.
JUDGE: Is the State Solicitor here?
MR NIX: No, my lord.
JUDGE: Very good. Guard, will you bring out the jury, please.

(In the presence of the jury)

JUDGE: Very good.
Ladies and gentlemen, matters have arisen in your absence, many matters have arisen in your absence. A matter has arisen in your absence which is pertinent to your service.

I am left with no option but to withdraw this case from you and to discharge you.
Thank you very much for your attendance.

I am sorry for keeping you closeted for so long up in your jury room.
I want to do no more than to thank you for your attendance and to bid you farewell.
The case is withdrawn from you.
Thank you very much.
I remand the Accused to Court 8, Friday, on the same terms as they are remanded before.
MR O'HANLON: May it please your lordship.
MR. O'HIGGINS: May it please your lordship.

THE JURY HAVING BEEN DISCHARGED - COURT 8 ON FRIDAY,
NOVEMBER 11TH, 2005.

by Relieved Tue Nov 08, 2005 14:35

This second collapse raises serious questions about the appointment of both judges in the two trials. Was there politicial pressure brought to bear? We cannot say that at all with any knowledge, and I am most certainly not implying that it happened in any explicit manner. But, it does raise the issue which is central to this case: that it is highly political in nature. The legal and political establishment in Ireland could not countenance the implications of the CW5 defence. It is about keeping cosy with our 'allies' the US.

Certainly, I cannot believe the crass arrogance of the judge not to have considered his position when appointed. Did he not think it would be queried? Fantastic work by the defence team overall, their playing of this trump card was both necessary and crucial. And the judge recusing himself is a tacit admission that this is a politicised trial - it can hinge on one's political and moral beliefs. If he can see that his actions could be modified by his political beliefs, then one would have to conclude that the defence are right to insist that it is primarily a political/human rights based trial.

The defendants actions were motivated by concern for human rights and life. It was not a blind act of vandalism, and cannot be judged in those terms alone. I was dismayed to hear, initially, that the judge had ruled out this particular defence (i.e. lawful excuse) because it implied that the only grounds for the jury to decide upon were whether the disarmament had taken place or not. Clearly, it had, and clearly that meant only one conclusion: guilty. I was honestly shocked to hear his decision. It is so manifestly stupid!

Good luck to all of the CW5, I am hugely impressed with your bravery, stoicism and fortitude in the face of the whole devious machinery of the state.

by Ivan H Tue Nov 08, 2005 15:36

Following his collapsing of the Catholic Worker trial yesterday, what do you think Judge Donagh McDonagh might be up to today? Resting? Thinking over his predicament? Wondering should he have mentioned at the beginning of the trial that he had links with Bush's circle?
Actually he's back in another court already:

www.rte.ie/news/2005/1108/dugganb.html

RTE NEWS:
Men sentenced over Duggan assault
08 November 2005 14:14
A tennis coach and a university student who left a man in a coma after attacking him on Dublin's Grafton Street are to serve three months in prison.
Stephen Nugent, 24, from Swords and 29-year-old Dermot Cooper from Stillorgan, both in Dublin, pleaded guilty to assault causing harm to Sligo librarian Barry Duggan in April 2003.
Judge Donagh McDonagh said the defendants had run off 'triumphant' after the assault on a 'puny man'.
However, Judge McDonagh accepted that they had no previous convictions and were unlikely to come to the Attention of gardaí in the future.
He therefore imposed three-year sentences with all but the last three months suspended.

by Dave Donnellan Tue Nov 08, 2005 17:32

The collpase of the CW5 trial brings the focus very much on the judiciary and the process by which judges are appointed to preside at trials. A question that emerges is either the judge knew at the outset of the trial that his association with the Bush administration compromised his position or he didn't.

If he did know why did he accept the job?
If he didn't know, how was it that a judge serving at this level would fail to notice such a salient fact?

The other question that emerges regards those responsible for the appointing of judges to preside at trials. In their case either they were aware of the conflict of interest in this case or they weren't.

If they were why they they appoint him?
If they weren't aware then does that not suggest that the whole process of appointing judges to trials needs to be looked at in depth in ensure such a waste of time and resources doesn't happen again. Not to speak of the further injustice to the CW5 who now have to endure yet another trial!

by Eoin Tue Nov 08, 2005 17:51

Two judges excused themselves from hearing my appeal in Ennis Circuit Court last year, sighting possible conflicts of interest. So it's not unheard of that judges at that level might put their hands up and say "I'd rather not, just in case".

The judges who wouldn't hear my appeal didn't say what their issues were -- I could only think of one of them and that my uncle used to pick on him in school.

There are judges who are honest (or just just smart?) enough to acknowledge that their position to judge antiwar campaigners in Ireland is compromised by their own interests and connections. Then there are those who think that it shouldn't matter.

by Damien Tue Nov 08, 2005 19:33

For all the solidarity from all we've encountered since this saga began. You have helped sustain us to remain upbeat and vigilant.

If you have free time please join us at the Spire from 9am this Friday morning November 11th where will continue remembering the Iraq war dead by walking to the Fourt Courts (Departure time 9.30pm).

We are unclear as to whether Court 8 will commence at 10am or 10.30am. or those of you who are interested in coming to Court 8 please be aware that it is a very claustrophobic atmosphere full of trial seeking barristers and Accused persons. At best you will probably get to stand at the door.

After you enter Morgan Place entrance on the quay (It's near the old main entrance), court 23 (where the trial took place, this will be on your left) but you gotta hook a right and enter the first door on the right. Court 8 is down the corridor as you approach the gents toilet.

A trial date will be requested by the DPP. Same rules will apply. Ajudge, courtroom, and court personnel will be required for 3 weeks, hence the unlikelihood that this trial will recommence pre-Christmas.
Nevertheless, Judge Desmond Hogan may feel that this saga has dragged on long enough and will do his best to fit it in if at all possible.

As Judge MacDonagh replied before lunch on Monday to comments made by Senior Counsel for the Defence, regarding infomation which may give rise to the collapse of the trial, ' I await with baited breath'.

by abihaaulnusepuhonanotherthread Tue Nov 08, 2005 19:39

I spoke with 6 female members of the jury after the collapse of the trial. They were very friendly and wanted to know how the hell it had collapsed after two weeks. They were all very forthcoming regarding where they stood with the case pre-hearing the judges conclusive charge.

They all told me they had no doubts as to whether the testimonies vindicated the CW5 action. In addition one of the male members made a very affirming comment at the end to one of the defence barristers and gestures of sympathy and solidairty to all the defendants.

The final female member of the jury also made affirming comments to one of the female defendants.

The 4 other male members of the jury said goodbye to some of the support outside. Some of the female members of the jury said that 2 or 3 jurors were difficult to read as to where they lay with the case, but one female member of the jury was adamant she felt they would have given a not guilty verdict.

I acknowledge that the jury may have made these decisions just to be friendly or feeling like they had no other choice in order to extract information as to why the trial collapsed, but it was quite obvious to me at least that they were very sympathetic to the defendants plight.
They stayed around talking to supporters for about 5 minutes after the trial.

Nevertheless, if the judge had an opportunity to charge the jury as narrowly as he was planning to, then I guess some of the jurors would have had a predicament: follow my conscience or follow directions from a neo-con ass-licker (Although they wouldn't have known that information if the trial proceeded to that stage).

So it certainly raised my hopes, that a jury of 12 Dublin residents were open to acquitting these 5 peacemakers after hearing expert testimony and the very moving testimony from the defendants themselves.

My prayers and thoughts are with you all this Friday. Hopefully you will have another trial before Christmas, or even better, the case will be dismissed altogether.

by deja Tue Nov 08, 2005 20:25

http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=68963

by R. Isible Tue Nov 08, 2005 20:29

But in this Stan Goff piece in Counterpunch the truth-telling Marine sergeant comes out of the debacle well and the dirty machinery of the "journalists" is exposed. Goff makes the point that the next set of Abu Ghraib photos should be out soon. (Maybe in time for Christmas?). Speculation is running wild about who is delaying them and why (current bets are on the idea that it's the CIA keeping them back until they'll do most damage to the Bush crew).

by redjade Tue Nov 08, 2005 21:38

America's best Investigative Reporter,
Seymour Hersh in July 2004 said:

"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh_children_raped.html


meanwhile, tofay, in George W Bush La-La Land... he says....

''President Bush on Monday defended U.S. interrogation practices and called the treatment of terrorism suspects lawful. "We do not torture," Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas.''
http://tinyurl.com/dd3ue

by Frank Cordaro - Des Moines Catholic Worker Tue Nov 08, 2005 21:49 Iowa, USA

Good golly!

The Ploughshares Witness that is going to last as long as this endless
criminal war!

Every time they drag you into court to be tried, your witness is
relived, retold and renewed! Having gone to enough trials myself, I
know your personal sacrifice is high - for every time you stand
before a judge and jury, you put your heart, your soul and your spirit
on the line....

My love, my heart, my gratitude and prayers go out to each and every
one of you.

Frank Cordaro

by Mark Thomas Tue Nov 08, 2005 21:53 London, England

WOW!

Good luck and good work.

Mark Thomas

by Coilín ÓhAiseadha Wed Nov 09, 2005 01:15

Coverage of the mistrial on the Web:

RTE:
Jury discharged in anti-war case
http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1107/shannon.html

Indo:
Trial collapses over claim judge was linked to Bush
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1501887&issue_id=13236

Irish Times:
Trial of Shannon war protesters collapses for second time
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2005/1108/2404959586HM1COURT.html

Carlow People:
Case against Shannon anti-war protesters collapses again
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/index.php3?ca=9&si=81971&breakingnews=1

Drogheda Independent:
Case against Shannon anti-war protesters collapses again [same as previous]
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/?ca=9&si=81971&breakingnews=1

And not mainstream, but interesting nevertheless for presenting the story to British Christians:
Ekklesia:
Trial of Christians collapses after judge linked to US President
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_05118trial.shtml

Best,
Coilín.

PS: I bet I'm not the only one to have a heightened sense of being intensely alive over the last couple of days. Being around people like the Pitstop 5 and their cunning counsel makes me aware of how weird and wonderful life is.

PPS: BTW, Mark Thomas, are you going to make this into comedy material? A pity you couldn't have been there yourself to see just how comical it was at times! - Particularly this very dramatic and almost farcical ending.

by Carthage Wed Nov 09, 2005 06:41

Excuse my plain English but has anyone actually demanded the resignation of this corrupt moralless moron of a judge?

Maybe my vision is a little limited but I can see only 2 possibilities:

1. He presided over the case in order to ensure a guilty verdict; or

2. He genuinely didnt realise that his history with bush was enough to ensure that he was unfit to preside over this case. If this is true then he is too stupid and incompetent to be allowed hold such an important position.

Either way, if any of us mere mortals was corrupt or incompetent in our jobs we would immediately be sacked. So why is this guy immune from the same treatment.

by eoghan Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:25

Pete Seeger - Keep your hands on that plough

'Took Paul and Silas, put 'em in the jail,
Had no one to go their bail.
Keep your hands on that plow, hold on.

Paul and Silas, they begin to shout,
Jail doors opened and they walked out.
Keep your hands on the plow and hold on-'
.

Great work pitstops,
much love.

by Ploughshares Defence Wed Nov 09, 2005 14:09 087 918 4552-for info or solidarity texts

This Friday the Pit Stop Ploughshares head back to the Four Courts to get a date for their third trial. Please join us if you can........

*8.30 am-Anti-War Vigil at TheSpire, O'Connell
*9.15 am-Peace Walk to Court
*10.00 or 10.30 am-Court 8 (will clarify exact court time later as a comment)

***Weather predictions are bad so bring wet weather gear.

by R. Isible Wed Nov 09, 2005 17:54

Is at the centre of another controversy: he gave very lenient sentences (3 years with all but 3 months suspended) to two men that badly beat another man.

" Barry Duggan, a 37-year-old librarian from Sligo, suffered serious head injuries and was left comatose following the assault which occurred as he travelled up Grafton Street on his bicycle after a night out. Judge Donagh McDonagh described the injuries as "life threatening."" -- Irish Independent Nov 9 2005

In his summing up he also managed to insult the victim, describing him as a "puny man".

by Eoin Wed Nov 09, 2005 18:59

To be fair to the judge, there's no point in sending people to prison unless they're a threat to themselves and others. From the two weeks I just spent in Dublin, and what I heard of that case on RTE the other day, I think the problem is mostly drink-related. Remove the drunk/drink culture, and you go some way to removing the problem of these random acts of street violence at night.
Sure Judge McDonagh's friend, George W., is a case in point. He's been fine ever since he's been off the bottle.... wait a minute?!

by dunk Wed Nov 09, 2005 19:32

hope everyone is in good form, did people feel the 5 would have won?
wonder when this info came to light, was it there from the start, where it came from

in thinking about what denis halliday brought up in trinity, about everyone not doing enough:

anyway, just a little bit here from a rob fisk interview on democracy now
"These aircraft are flying through Europe. In fact, they're flying through Shannon Airport. I was giving a lecture in Ireland the other day, and I said, “Why don't the Irish police go onboard these aircraft and unshackle these men and take them off in the interest of law and order?” Because what we've got to now with the torture is that we are becoming the criminals. We are the criminals now."
from
printed text
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/09/1538226
and from vid film in links at top

solidarity
dunk

by Mark C - Teacher Wed Nov 09, 2005 19:38

Good Luck with that comment Dunk, I mentioned the same thing (I was actually at the lecture) about two weeks ago and the thread seemed to generate plenty of emotion.

Note to A10: if you're going to comment either 1) don't, or 2) learn to spell and write.

by Zelda, Shannon Banshee Wed Nov 09, 2005 20:18

Sending all good wishes to the CW5, your continuing valient and thoughtful actions are an inspiration. It is just over a year since I sat with Elaine at the end of the runway watching a plane take off towards Iraq. On that cold dismal night we felt very close to the horror of war and were moved as we read the names of some of those killed. Our action was just a small memorial to what was going on, how much better to have stopped a plane as the CW5 did. Since we got off with probation and they did something better they can only deserve the thanks of everyone.
The Judge like all the rest of his kind needs to remmember to "Judge not lest thou also be Judged" I doubt they will find anyone fit to Judge the CW5, just a lot of us happy to admire them

by cath Wed Nov 09, 2005 20:24

have just seen video clip and at least 2 of defendants seem disappointed that jury would not be given chance to make a finding etc etc; if the aim is to get to a verdict rather than postpone then why does the defence counsel keep using the tactic of objecting to the judge?

by R. Isible Wed Nov 09, 2005 21:11

You will see that the judge was making some very surprisingly limiting rulings about what could be considered as evidence and what couldn't. Possibly an indication of extreme bias on his part. The jury would have had to decide whether to use "Jury nullification" and ignore his instructions and follow their consciences or else to make a decision within a very narrowly proscribed framework (created at the whim of the judge who appears to have substantial ties to the prinicpals behind the war that is killing people that the CW5/PSP tried to save).

It makes sense that the defence counsel would be suspicious about the fitness of such a judge and would feel that their clients weren't getting a fair trial.

by Response Wed Nov 09, 2005 21:18

Chances are if the trial had stopped at that point before closings it would have been a hung jury or maybe an acquittal.

The trial wasn't going to stop there, it was going to stop with closings where only one side would have had a closing and a judge with a long relationship with the Bushmeister on their side and the defendants stripped of their legal defence.

So where the jury would have gone at that point is anyone's guess. The judge must have been confident enought to let a lot of evidence in during the trial and stripping the legal defence and charging the jury narrowly would have done the trick.

The way this trial collapses exposes the corruption at the basis of Irish society. How he could sit there for two weeks holding the fate of these five in his hands only to scamper on the 10 th day when the facts were put before him....says a lot.

Bravo to the defendants for pointing back to the ongoing crimes at Shannon. Hopefully there steadfastness will motivate all of us to address the issues rather being passive specatators of the tribulations of these five.

by J.H. Thu Nov 10, 2005 01:35 Duluth, Mn USA

A group of 15 people - including Army
veterans, advocates for the homeless, Catholic Workers and two people who have traveled to Iraq on humanitarian missions - attempted to nonviolently shut down Army recruiting operations in Duluth today.

Between 8:30 and 9 am, police arrested four men who refused to leave the doorway to the recruiting office: Michael Latsch and Kurt
Greenhalgh of Duluth; and John LaForge and John Heid, former Duluthians now living in Luck, WI. Latsch, LaForge and Greenhalgh were cited for "obstructing a
public sidewalk" and released with a preliminary court date of December 22. Heid was charged with "obstructing a public sidewalk" and "obstructing the legal process" and transported to St Louis County
Jail. He'll be arraigned tomorrow in Duluth District Court.

The activists argue that military recruiters regularly misrepresent realities of military life - from the reasons for the war in Iraq, to the near certainty of seeing combat, to the after-effects of post-traumatic stress and addiction.

"For many people, this office represents the first step on a road to mental anguish and homelessness," said Michael Latsch, a volunteer at a local hospitality house for homeless men. "Recruiters won't
tell them about the horror of combat, and the
government won't take care of them when they can't forget it."

Latsch points out that Veterans' Administration studies indicate that between 30% and 40% of adult homeless men in the US are military veterans.

The demonstration was the second recent attempt by antiwar activists to disrupt Army recruiting through nonviolent civil disobedience. On November 1st, three
men and four women were arrested after sitting in the office doorway and refusing to allow recruiters to enter the building. They will be arraigned on December 21 in Duluth.

by Jonah Thu Nov 10, 2005 01:55 Washington DC, USA

http://www.jonahhouse.org/F&RDec05_theme.htm

by Eoin Dubsky Thu Nov 10, 2005 16:12

I don't see how the trial can re-start after what happened in court. The defendants have been forthright and honest throughout the trial and the 32 months on bail and remand before then.

Meanwhile the state, and now the courts, have behaved disgracefully. First the government spread black propaganda, alleging that a Garda had been attacked and hospitalised by the group. Then odious bail conditions were imposed to limit their movements and freedom of expression. Three of the five are expats, but must sign on once a week at their local Garda station... or else. And now the final insult -- a highly connected Bush-supporter was appointed to judge their retrial, following a trial which collapsed because the previous judge "might" be perceived to be biased -- enough is enough!

To paraphrase a statement which the Pitstop Ploughshares 5 wrote on the hanger at Shannon: The travesty of justice stops here!

by Noelie Prosecutti Thu Nov 10, 2005 16:21

Time to cut your losses, Bertie. Don't tempt fate, it might be your turn in the dock, soon enough.

by Publo Thu Nov 10, 2005 16:58

Cross-party support for Shannon protesters
By Kath Kyle Last updated: 10-11-05, 15:20

Five cross-party TDs and a Senator today joined together to demand the criminal charges faced by five anti-war protesters be dropped.
The trial of the five, who are accused of damaging a US Navy plane at Shannon Airport, collapsed earlier this week after defence lawyers suggested the judge had been invited to both of President George W Bush's presidential inaugurations and attended the first one in 2000.

It is the second time in six months that a mis-trial has been declared in this case on the basis of "perceived bias". The first trial was also abandoned when Judge Frank O'Donnell withdrew it from the jury on the sixth day of the trial.

Five TDs - the Labour Party's Joe Costello; John Gormley of the Green Party; Aengus O'Snodaigh, of Sinn Féin and Independent TDs Tony Gregory and Finian McGrath have joined Senator David Norris in signing a statement which questions whether a fair trial is now possible.

"Despite the presumption of innocence being a pillar of a democratic society, the ongoing punishment of these five peace activists through strict bail conditions and the threat of future incarceration is a disgraceful criminalisation of peaceful dissent," the statement says.

All the signatories welcomed the opportunity to show their solidarity with the protesters and Mr McGrath commended them as the Rosa Parks of 2005. "They are not criminals and should not be treated as such," he said

Mr Costello said he had been in Shannon during the summer and it was "flooded" with US soldiers. "We are not just providing fuel for planes but welcoming and hosting soldiers on Irish soil," he said.

Mr O'Snodaigh condemned the treatment of the protestors and said it was a "scandal" they were put on trial in the first palace. "It's scandalous it continued and a bigger scandal that judge in this case actually took on the case - it's all been an absolute waste of tax-payers money."

When questioned about whether they would support the same kind of direct, perhaps illegal, action in the future, Mr Gormley said that he thought that if lives were going to be saved and property was going to be saved then the action was indeed justifiable. Although he added that he was not in a position to urge anyone to take any kind of action.

Mr O'Snodaigh said that he supports direct action and that in this case the war in Iraq was a clear breach of international law and Irish law, which the State is not willing to apply. He went on to say that perhaps if other people throughout the world took the same action "the US may have thought twice about going to war and continuing the war in Iraq."

The five accused, who have pleaded not guilty to two counts each of causing damage without lawful excuse to a US naval aircraft have been remanded on continuing bail until this Friday.

by Ploughshares Support Group Thu Nov 10, 2005 19:30

Press Release - Politicians Demand Abandonment of Shannon 5

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PRESS RELEASE
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'Politicians Demand Shannon 5 Trial Be Abandoned'

The collapse of the Shannon 5 trial in the Four Courts this week, due to the acknowledgement of presiding Judge, Donagh MacDonagh, that he attended the inauguration of President Bush in 2000, raises serious questions that a fair trial is now possible in this case. It is the second time in six months that a mistrial has been declared in this case on the basis of "perceived bias".

Despite the presumption of innocence been a pillar of any democratic society, the ongoing punishment of these five peace activists through strict bail conditions and the threat of future incarceration is disgraceful criminalisation of peaceful dissent.

Since they acted to save life and property at Shannon Airport on February 3rd 2003, tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians have been killed as well as over 2000 US soldiers. Countless more lives have been scarred forever with emotional and physical injuries due to this disastrous imperialist misadventure in Iraq.

We call for the charges of criminal damage to a US Navy plane bound for the theatre of war in Iraq and the threat of imprisonment on the five peace activists to be dropped. We demand the Irish government be a true friend to the U.S.A and withdraw the services of Shannon Airport as a pitstop for their war machine.

We hope Ireland's traditional role as a force for peacemaking and nonviolent conflict resolution
throughout the world can be redeemed despite the compromising of our netrality on a daily basis by allowing a belligerent force (the U.S.) engage in a war deemed 'illegal' by Kofi Annan, 'immoral' by world religious leaders, and 'unwinnable' by military experts.

Joe Costello (Labour TD, Dublin Central)
John Gormley (Green Party TD, Dublin South-East)
Aengus O'Snodaigh (Sinn Fein TD, Dublin South Central)
Finian McGrath (Independant TD, Dublin North Central)
Tony Gregory (Independent TD, Dublin Central)
David Norris (Independent Senator, University of Dublin)

For more information contact 087 9638398

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PRESS RELEASE
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by tj Fri Nov 11, 2005 05:23

hey all,

after meeting robbie sim at the st. patricks 4 trial here in the usa, i've gained interest in the shannon events. sadly today, i return to catch up on the events regarding this bozo judge and can only say i'm in shock!!!

the strength the defenders have despite all they've endured is staggering. my words simply cannot describe the admiration i have for you all. despite my disbelief at what has transpired, do know: cause and effect is a powerful law. peace be with you all, your efforts are NOT going unnoticed.

~ tj (upstate, new york - usa)

by corbyeire Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:16

"Individuals have international duties which transcend the national
obligations of obedience ... Therefore [individual citizens] have the duty
to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity
from occurring.": The Nuremberg Tribunal 1945-1946.

by C Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:03

They're back in court today? how is it going/how did it go?

by redjade Fri Nov 11, 2005 14:17

Eight more months!!!

Is the Irish Court system so incompetent?

by Media Watch Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:27

Date set for anti-war protesters' third trial
11/11/2005 - 13:47:11

Five anti-war protesters accused of causing millions of dollars of damage to a US military plane in Shannon were today facing a long wait for their third trial.

The second trial against the Pitstop Plough Shares activists collapsed earlier this week amid allegations that Judge Donagh McDonagh who was hearing the case had links to President George W Bush.

Today, Judge Desmond Hogan set a trial date of July 5 2006.

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=69390842&p=6939yy44&n=69391222

by Ya basta - Ya basta Fri Nov 11, 2005 15:56

Dear Redjade,

YES. The courts are that incompetent. Enough is enough is enough.

by Ciaron Fri Nov 11, 2005 17:25 087 918 4552

Pit Stop Ploughshares scored a date for their thrid trial today.....July 5th. 2006.

Defendants are joining the Afri crew at the "Cat & Cage" bar, Drumcondra tonight Fri Nov 11th. 9 pm.
Music by Dejimbe
Poetry Reading by Donal O'Kelly

So drop up if you wish to connect post-trial etc

by parsed words Sat Nov 12, 2005 18:24

DERMOT AHERN ON US FLIGHTS THROUGH SHANNON
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/letters/2005/1112/index.html

Madam, - Dermot Ahern says that he accepts the statement by the US authorities that they "had never secretly transported suspected terrorists through Shannon Airport".

The devil is in the detail of the word "secretly".

I have never heard or seen reports of inspections by Irish authorities of any US aircraft passing through Shannon.

It can, therefore, be claimed that it was not done secretly.

That does not mean that it was not done.

- Yours, etc,

DERMOT TREACY, The Maple, Grange Hall, Rathfarnham, Dublin 16.

by aaa Sat Nov 12, 2005 19:04

I read that thought it was weird, they haven't checked the planes in any way shape of form.

by redjade Sat Nov 12, 2005 21:16

"had never secretly transported suspected terrorists through Shannon Airport".

hmmmm...

yeah and as Bill Clinton said: "I never had sex with that woman"
But is oral sex, sex? The meaning of is, is?

'Never secretly'
• Secret from whom? The public or the Irish Gov't

'suspected terrorists'
• Who suspects? Or does Dermot Ahern think proof was provided?

and finally....

'through Shannon Airport'

• OK, what about Baldonnel in Dublin? or Knock International Airport? Somewhere else?

by Ruth Mon Nov 14, 2005 22:33

On November 9, 2005, Lana Jacobs was sentenced for her part in an act of civil
disobedience at the ROTC building (Crowder Hall) on the University of Missouri-Columbia campus. Associate Circuit Judge Larry Bryson, imposed a $500 fine, suspending $450, and ordered her to pay restituion of $27 and court costs.

He also placed her on two years of unsupervised probation under the following terms and conditions: 1) to report any arrests to the court within 48 hours, and (2) to pay restitution, court costs and the unsuspended portion of the fine (a
total of $193.50.)

Lana Jacobs went to trial October 20, 2005. She was charged, along with her husband Steve Jacobs, with second degree property damage for digging a symbolic grave on the ROTC lawn as part of an action protesting the continued war in
Iraq. While admitting to digging on the lawn of the ROTC building, she raised the affirmative, statutory defense of "claim of right" at her trial.

Under Missouri law, a person who would otherwise be guilty of certain crimes,
including property damage, may not be convicted if she has a good faith reasonable belief that she has a legal right to undertake the property
damage.

Far from seeking to avoid accepting responsibility for her actions, Mrs. Jacobs and her expert witness, Bill Wickersham, who provided the court with background on the international humanitarian and war law as a foundation for Mrs.
Jacobs' beliefs, were able to focus attention on the reason behind her actions. Exercising her constitutional right to a trial, and her constitutional
right to present all available defenses to the court, Mrs. Jacobs provided compelling testimony in her own defense.

Mrs. Jacobs presented evidence that she believed that she had the right to take the action that she did because of her understanding of the duties
imposed on all persons through the Nuremburg principles as adopted by the United Nations,
and which are contained in a treaty to which the United States is a signatory, and which has been ratified. She also expressed her personal moral and religious beliefs that this action was necessary because her attempts at less extreme forms of protesting the Iraq war had failed to stop the killing.

Both defense witnesses eloquently provided the court with crucial context testimony in hope that the court would understand that this was not merely a
reckless act in which public property was slightly and temporarily damaged, but an action which flowed from Mrs. Jacobs' deep-seated belief in the
sanctity of life. By placing her actions in appropriate context, the court was placed in the
position of considering her claim of right defense. It was clear from the evidence that she possessed a good faith belief that she had the right, even the obligation, to perform this action.

Unfortunately, despite compelling testimony
from both Mr. Wickersham and Mrs. Jacobs, the Court found Lana Jacobs guilty of the crime charged, a class B misdemeanor. While disappointed in the verdict, Mrs. Jacobs accepted the verdict, and has no plans to appeal.

Although she was prepared for incarceration or to perform community service, the court imposed neither. At her sentencing hearing, Mrs. Jacobs attempted to make the following statement, although a sustained prosecution objection
prevented her from completing her statement to the court.

Sentencing Statement of Lana Jacobs:
"In a world where euphemisms are used to describe evil ,the need to clarify our vocabulary is also the way to clarify our actions. Our government
uses the word interrogation to mean torture. We use die with dignity to mean euthanasia. We use women’s choice to mean killing babies. We use the word justice to justify capital punishment. All of these are forms of murder. War is particularly couched in terms of national security and patriotism.

"The common theme of all of these is the mind game that allows us to take life. Life is the province of God, not us. It is this simple: we are
not allowed to kill one another. It is the responsibility of all of us to prevent the intentional killing of humans. It really is that simple. I will
continue to speak for life at all levels."

Following Lana's conviction, the State dropped pending charges against
Steve Jacobs.

by Margaret Tue Nov 15, 2005 22:47

Today's Counterpunch, the American political newsletter, contains an article by Harry Browne on the collapse of the trial
http://www.counterpunch.org/browne11152005.html



Jimmy Massey, the American war veteran who fought in Iraq and testified at the trial has been in the news in the US quite a bit this week and last. He seems to be the subject of a smear campaign aired on CNN and based on other newspaper articles by reporter Ron Harris.

More on this story at Counterpunch:
http://www.counterpunch.org/massey11102005.html

Yesterday Democracy Now aired a debate between Jimmy Massey and Ron Harris. You can listen, watch or read the show transcript here:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/14/1447248

Massey was a US Marine staff sergant that was involved in the initial invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq. He has been speaking out about the civilians killed by his company in talks, interviews and in his book which is currently only published in French.

Not directly linked to the trial but relevant all the same is an interview with a former US Army Interrogator that worked in Iraq (aired today on Democracy Now). It's a good read/listen as it talks about why he thought the Geneva convention didn't apply to him and why, even thought he thought some of the interrogation tactics were questionable, he himself used force/torture.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/15/1632233

by Susan Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:13

The 52 year old ploughshare activist Turi Vaccaro has been sentenced to 6 months prison last thursday (27th of october. He also has to pay
750.000 euro's compensation to the ministry of defence of the Netherlands. If he doesn't pay he will have to do another 360 days in prison. His lawyer Meindert Stelling is considering an appeal.

Turi disarmed two F-16's, on the 10th of august, that
were stationed at Woensdrecht airforce base in the south of the Netherlands.

More information can be gotten from

Turi's Supportgroup: steungroepturi@hotmail.com

by Joan - Granny Peace Brigade Wed Nov 16, 2005 18:42

I came across your item about the Vermont grandmother on trial for allegedly blocking traffic when she was protesting the war.

I am one of 18 grandmothers arrested and jailed on October 17 last month when we tried to enlist in the Times Square (NYC) Recruiting Center, and, refused admission, sat down in front. Yesterday, November 15, we had our court appearance on a disorderly conduct charge. Do you want to run a story about us? Let me know, and if you do I'll give you further details.

Joan Wile
Founder/Director, Grandmothers Against the War
and member Granny Peace Brigade

by Frank - Voices for Creative Nonviolence Wed Nov 16, 2005 18:52

The Winter of Our Discontent: February 15 to March 19, 2006
End the War Against Iraq. Act for Justice for Iraqis.


2000 U.S. soldiers lay dead in Iraq. Tens of thousands of Iraqis lay dead as a consequence of the occupation. 300,000 Iraqi children under 5 years of age suffer from acute malnutrition. Hundreds of billions are spent to wage war. Hundreds of billions are stolen from waging life in the U.S. and Iraq. Our country chooses to fund
war-making while failing to adequately fund the Common Good—schools, health care, housing, water, living wages, and jobs-whether in the
U.S. or in Iraq.

On February 15, 2003, millions of global citizens took to the streets, trying to prevent the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq. It was the largest prewar antiwar mobilization ever seen in history. It was the birth of a new global superpower-a popular movement committed to peace and justice.

On March 19, 2003, the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq officially began.
Let This Now Be the Winter of Our Discontent

We call upon people to travel to Washington, D.C. between February 15 and March 19, 2006 to press for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq and an end to all forms of economic and military warfare against Iraq.

We call for the following actions to take place in Washington, D.C., along with local actions around the country, during the Winter of Our Discontent:

1) Lobbying Congress to end all forms of economic and military warfare against Iraq as well as to make full payment of war reparations for the damage our country inflicted upon Iraqis over
these past 15 years of economic and military warfare.

2) Fasts and vigils, including a 33-day fast and fasts of shorter duration.

3) Civil disobedience / nonviolent resistance at those places which represent and at which decisions are made concerning economic and
military warfare against Iraq. These include the Pentagon, the Blight House (a.k.a. the White House), the U.S. Capitol, the International
Monetary Fund and the World Bank. In local communities around the U.S., actions should occur at Congressional offices, federal
buildings, Military Entrance Processing Stations and recruiting stations, weapons contractors and at companies profiting at the expense of the Iraqi people.


Demands of the Winter of Our Discontent

1) An end to the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq, with immediate withdrawal of all U.S.-U.K. military forces.

2) Payment of war reparations by the U.S. to Iraq for the damage inflicted by the past 15 years of economic and military warfare against Iraq.

3) The unconditional cancellation of the remaining $33 billion in war reparations charges which the United Nations imposed on Iraq
following the Saddam Hussein regime's 1990-91 invasion and occupation of Kuwait. Note that nearly all individual claims have been paid and
the remaining claims would be mostly paid to other governments and state-owned enterprises.

4) The unconditional cancellation of the odious debt incurred by the regime of Saddam Hussein.

5) No internationally forced privatization of Iraq's state-owned enterprises, especially its oil resources and oil wealth.

6) Respect for basic human rights and workers' rights as per international law.


What You Can Do

1) Endorse the Winter of Our Discontent. If you endorse as an individual, please advise us if there is an organization title or affiliation which you would like us to use for identification purposes
only.

2) Secure the endorsement of organizations with which you are affiliated.

3) Commit to traveling to Washington, D.C. during the Winter of Our Discontent. Please advise us which actions you will participate in (lobbying, fasts / vigils, civil disobedience / nonviolent resistance) and the dates you will be able to participate in D.C.

4) Organize your organization, friends, and colleagues to travel to D.C. to participate in the Winter of Our Discontent. Please let us know who will be traveling to D.C. so we can coordinate with you (or who the key contact person will be).

5) If you are not able to travel to D.C. during the Winter of Our Discontent, please consider organizing actions in your local area during this time period. Please advise us what forms of action you'll organize, dates of the action(s) and location of the action(s), as well as who the contact person will be.

6) Distribute this call to action far and wide.


For more information
Jeff Leys
Voices for Creative Nonviolence
1249 W Argyle St #2
Chicago, IL 60640
Email: jeffleys@vitw.org
Phone: 773-878-3815

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by Open Wed Nov 16, 2005 21:47

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/11/07/antiwar_activists_where_are_you/

by Update Wed Nov 16, 2005 21:51

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116/ap_on_re_us/peace_mom

by Update Wed Nov 16, 2005 21:54

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iraq/