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Shell to Sea - letter in response to Shell Propaganda

category galway | environment | news report author Sunday September 18, 2005 15:47author by Kieran Cunnane - Shell to Sea Report this post to the editors

Response to 3 different weekly adds placed by Shell in the Galway Advertiser.

Links to Shell's adds included.

Shell campaign is spin and spin, say Shell to Sea

The following piece is a response to 3 weekly adds placed in the Galway Advertiser.


Dear Editor,

I’d like to respond to Shell’s advertising campaign regarding the Corrib Gas project as corporate spin and lies. The most glaringly obvious of these are their claims that the gas coming down the pipeline is clean and will be treated long before it comes onshore and also that all of the gas will be used to service the Irish Market.

In fact, two extra chemicals are added to the pipeline. Impurities are not extracted, pressure is not reduced and the gas is not odorized until it reaches the refinery. The list of pollutants is large, but includes several heavy metals (among the most toxic substances known to man), other hydrocarbons, chlorides, sulphates and radon gas. It’s becoming the environmental norm to pump the harmful bye-products of the refinery process back into the ground; instead Shell plans to incinerate the condensate and pump the waste products 12Km out to sea. The proposed purpose of this incinerator is to power the refinery, despite an abundance of Gas.

Regarding claims that ALL of the gas will be used to service the Irish market, Bord Gais is entitled to buy a percentage believed to be 27% at full market rates; the rest would likely be piped across to the UK and Europe. Shell makes another claim that the gas will be used to fuel homes and businesses all along the west coast; in fact there are no plans to service the regional towns and villages outside of Galway City, never mind the coast.

Shell makes several other highly dubious claims regarding the precedence for such a development, and jobs created or lost. They claim onshore method as “best practice” citing two examples in Norway. In fact, these (best) Norwegian examples are nothing like Corrib, one being on an uninhabited island from which gas is tankered away on boats, the other being an island shore where it’s pumped straight back out to sea to the UK. The difference with the Corrib refinery site is that it’s 9Km on land, piped through a populated area. On jobs, they fail to say that support for an onshore facility would be located in Ayr, Scotland. They highly exaggerate the local jobs impact, the bottom line being that the Erris people choose the Shell to Sea campaign over any possible jobs. Another claim that Ballinaboy (refinery site) was chosen for its low environmental impact is a complete joke.

To put the safety issue into perspective, a disaster in New Mexico at 40 bar pressure killed everyone within 700 feet; the kill zone of this pipeline at multiple times that pressure could be hundreds of metres. The US-Canadian model would locate it 295m away from human activity, not 70m from houses and 0m at road junctions.

As foreign multinational, Shell seems very forthright in stating what is in the National interest. Let me say, it’s the Governments’ job, not Shell’s to defend a deal which puts us bottom of the world league table for tax and royalties.

Shell Corporation has an appalling track record in its dealings with the people of regions it wants to exploit. Several books and documentaries exist about their disregard for local people, intimidation and environmental destruction throughout the world. In April, they obtained an injunction, granted on the basis that they had ministerial consent, which they didn’t have. They make a mockery of the Irish legal system by keeping five men in jail. Their suspension of work is not to facilitate calm and dialogue; if they were serious about dialogue, they’d release the five men by dropping the injunction.

Yours sincerely,
Kieran Cunnane,

Related links

http://galwayadvertiser.ie/dws/pdf/GA_1808_E1_035.pdf
http://galwayadvertiser.ie/dws/pdf/GA_2508_E1_029.pdf
http://galwayadvertiser.ie/dws/pdf/GA_0109_E1_029.pdf
http://galwayadvertiser.ie/dws/story.tpl?inc=2005/09/15/letters/21799.html

author by IFpublication date Thu Sep 22, 2005 15:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Corrib Technical Advisory Group To Accept Written Submissions And Hold Two Day Public Hearing In Mayo



Dublin, Thursday 22nd September 2005


The Corrib Technical Advisory Group (TAG) is putting in place a consultation process to allow written submissions to be made to Advantica, the company appointed to carry out the safety review of the Corrib Upstream Onshore Pipeline. A two-day public hearing will also be held locally late in October.

The Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Noel Dempsey T.D., is conscious that people who have views relating to the safety of the pipeline should have the opportunity to have those views considered by the consultants undertaking the safety review. Views are now being invited from local residents, communities and any interested party during the period of the review. In order for the consultants to be able to take full account of views expressed, early written submissions are encouraged.

All written submissions to this public consultation will be published on the Department’s website.

Written submissions already received by the Minister’s Technical Advisory Group since it was established on 10th August are being considered by the consultants, therefore re-submission is not necessary.

Submissions can be sent by post, by fax or by e-mail, or hand delivered to:

Corrib Technical Advisory Group
Office of the Chief Technical Advisor
Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources
29 - 31 Adelaide Road
Dublin 2

fax: 01 678 2659
e-mail: Corrib.TAG@dcmnr.gov.ie

Closing date for written submissions is 5.30p.m. Friday, 28th October 2005.

Advantica are visiting the Corrib Site today as part of their work.

The Technical Advisory Group and its consultants will also hold a two day public hearing in locally late in October. The public hearings will be chaired by John Gallagher SC.

Following consideration of the consultants’ Interim Report and the written and oral submissions received, a final report will be prepared for the Minister.

author by Erris personpublication date Thu Sep 22, 2005 14:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

IF (aka In Favour) can't decide whether it's important that the Corrib gas be brought ashore in Ireland or not, exported or not, as he's just said that the Corrib is such a miniscule find. If it's miniscule, why argue every corner possible to justify its being brought ashore?

author by local individualpublication date Wed Sep 21, 2005 21:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I dont know much about the corrib gas project but i do know that the gas out there in our bay is not going to be used for our benefit, we will have no benefits as such from it and John yes we all need gas and oil to survive but at what cost? this pipeline is far from safe as what Shell will have you believe, if only the distance from some houses to the proposed laying of the pipeline its ridiculous. Is there anyone out there with an neutral insight into this project please please reply and explain all this gas and shell!!!!

author by Northsiderpublication date Mon Sep 19, 2005 19:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

John and In Favour will use any argument possible to undermine those who object to the SEPIL pipeline being installed in Rossport in its current design. Before you accuse people of lying or misinformation, please produce some documentary evidence that the gas will or will not be exported, or evidence to back up any of your other arguments. If you are so convinced of your argument, why won't you tell us why? And furthermore, please explain how selling gas abroad or not justifies the pipeline design being used to bring the gas from the Corrib well to shore? They are entirely separate issues.

author by IFpublication date Mon Sep 19, 2005 08:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I agree with John. To continue to state that Ireland will export gas is just complete garbage and only undermines any credibility you have as it belies any understanding of economics. Ireland's energy (electricuty in particular) deman is such that we will remain a net importer of gas for many years. Given the lack of success offshore Ireland, this in fact is likely to be forever. Corrib is a very small, marginal discovery and to state otherwise and talk of piping gas to other coutris is laughable and actially just stupid.

author by S2Spublication date Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Do you really believe there are 'minuscule amounts' of gas in the Corrib field?

Related Link: http://www.shelltosea.com
author by Limerick Ladypublication date Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

John, even if you are right and all the gas stays in Ireland (sold at full market value by a forign multinational to Bird Gais mind you) does that make you think the devolopment should go ahead? The litany of problems associated with the project on social, environmental, safety, economic and class grounds doesn't leave much on the table for any of the stakeholders bar the multinationals. Couldn't it have been so much better for all of us citizens of this island?

author by Johnpublication date Sun Sep 18, 2005 17:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Its you that's guilty of spin and lies. You keep repeating that 73 per cent of the gas is going to Britain and Europe. No matter how many times you're corrected on that, you keep repeating it. Its poppycock. Its lies. Ireland receives the great bulk of its gas from Britain and Europe. All that the Corrib field will do is to allow us to cut our imports of gas from those places by about half. We'll still be importing half our gas from Britain and Europe even when the Corrib field is at full production, not exporting to them. Presumably your leftist counterparts in those countries are writing similar letters to their local papers complaining about their gas being piped to Ireland. The Corrib field will not provide a surplus for export. Its far too small. What part of that simple fact do you find difficulty in understanding? Britain and Europe can produce a thousand times the amount of gas from their own gas fields that Ireland will be able to produce from the Corrib field. All of the gas from Corrib will be going into the Irish national gas grid. They said the same thing when the Kinsale field was being developed, that all the gas would go abroad. None of it ever did, not one cubic foot. Why should Europe want to import the minuscule amounts of gas that Corrib can provide (for which a pipeline would have to be built to N. Ireland, then Scotland, then down through England and eventually to France) when gas fields sitting off their coast in the North Sea and the Mediterraenean Sea can produce a thousand times that amount of gas. It would be an economic nonsense.

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