British and US plan Iraq withdrawal

by yawn Sun Jul 10, 2005 21:34

imagine you were a migrant for a moment on the telephone for your weekly fifteen minutes chat with the folks, "hi I love you", "money is the in the post", "any more little ones", "yes it was terrible", "yes i'm ok", "yes they're going to leave iraq".

Shake and see. hilal. shake and see.

The british are told they're leaving. are they?
the spanish are told the culprits also did Madrid 11 and casablanca and are morrocans.
the italians are arguing about whether or not 300 going means anything.
the irish are told there are 10 evildoers in the state.

Now Hilal, if you got to go through the gigabytes and gigabytes of telephone calls would you be able to distinguish fact from fiction, genuine emotion from faked, a code word from a pun, sincere political belief be it angry or frustrated, heck Hilal would you be able to tell the difference between moroccan arabic and afghanistani urdu?
Or is "Al Q" all the same for you? just gunning to get the coalition out of iraq? Then they be nice to all the people who live in iraq?

shake and see.

It took a democratic revindication and new government and several months for the spanish government to withdraw its forces on the grounds that the war on Iraq had been illegal, and then send those same forces with extra added on to Afghanistan to fulfill several UN resolutions and join operation ISAF. Think about "your way of life".
its not a political slogan, its not an advertising jingle, it means something.
It might mean, gay marriage and nudist beaches in spain with 6 abortions a hour.
It might not mean, 56% unemployment in northern africa where 40% of the male population are under 30 and most are illiterate but all have access to simple weapons training.

shake and see.

When the British leave Iraq, the war in iraq will not end. We protested the war, to stop it happening.
It has happened now, Hilal over 2 years ago.

And since the bombings of London that got you so excited, 140,000 children have died from poverty.

by Pol Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:34

Why do you keep saying 'shake and see'? It is meaningless.
On the subject of getting your Brits out... they'll all be next door in Iran, probably.

by yawn Mon Jul 11, 2005 14:00

play your bit. All the usual suspects, that is the usual religion are being shook. And now many in London are (still in a clear psychological post-trauma process) saying "iraq is the reason" you're in denial if you can't see that"! Ok-. Shake the British government-

Demand a public inquiry into the London Bombings.

Or do you prefer foregone conclusions?
do you approach these facile and pernicious attempts to garner and divide our collective contemporary history into convenient dates with obscure names?
do you trust the state and media?

Demand a public inquiry into the London Bombings.
& see...

by very curious Mon Jul 11, 2005 14:47

haven't been able to find referece to this in any mainstream newspaper even though it was broadcast on bbc
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/10/london_bombings_coin.html

by redjade Tue Jul 12, 2005 00:30

• one thing for sure, someone in the pentagon is flying trial balloons and waiting to see if anyone shoots them down...

U.S. May Begin Iraq Troop Drawdown in '06
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050711/D8B9ECKG0.html
Major reductions in U.S. troop levels in Iraq next year appear increasingly likely, although Pentagon officials said Monday it is too early to predict the specific size and timing.

The Pentagon is eager to pull some of its 135,000 troops out of Iraq in 2006, partly because the counterinsurgency is stretching the Army and Marine Corps perilously thin as casualties mount and partly because officials believe the presence of a large U.S. force is generating tacit support for anti-American violence.

by George W Bush International Terrorist Wed Jul 13, 2005 20:38

As predicted the Corporate Mass Media is already screaming Dirty Arab and Fearmongering is once again on the Front Pages of every Newstand and the Headlines of TV News Stations. Downing Street Memo seems to have disappeared doesn't it? And Bush and Blair the War Liars who Fabricated the Iraq War Lies are once again Beating The War Drums as Predicted. So who benefits from the London Bombings? Muslims, who will once again live in Fear of Religious Bigotry? Or The Bush Iran-Contra Cabal and Their Multi-Trillion Dollar War Industry?

by redjade Wed Jul 13, 2005 22:32

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Radicals within
Iraq's Shiite majority community launched a petition for the withdrawal of US-led troops, which they said was drawing support from across the sectarian divide.

Supporters of firebrand cleric Moqtada Sadr, who led a bloody six-month uprising against the coalition last year, said they were aiming to secure one million signatures inside four days.

"We started this morning and so far we have had a good response, not only from Shiites -- Sunnis and Christians have also been coming to our office to show their support," said Ibrahim al-Jaberi, an official in Sadr's movement.

"We have also received more than 100 calls from Iraqis living abroad in support of our initiative," he said, adding that more than 400,000 people had signed the petition by midday (0800 GMT).

The petition, which Jaberi said would be submitted to the Iraqi government and
United Nations, reads: "I hereby declare my rejection of the forces of occupation and demand their withdrawal".

In the radicals' Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City, Zayer Lafta refused a pen, insisting on applying his bloodied thumb to the petition sheet.

"I will sign with my blood, because the country is awash with blood," the 44-year-old said.