For free abortion on demand!

by Statin' the Obvious Mon Apr 25, 2005 08:54

...wouldn't that be the exercise of free expresion protected by democratic values. Free speech doesn't mean anything ulessyou defend the right of those you disagree with.

by Al Mon Apr 25, 2005 22:42

Exactly, free speech is for every person regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with your point of view.
As far as abortion goes I believe the topic is far more complicated than a simple legal or illegal. I also dont agree with showing pictures at the GPO. Children have the right to walk down a street without seeing them.

by T-1000 Thu Apr 28, 2005 01:11

It would seem the only people oppressed are the unborn children. Masking a political agenda (ie Abortion etc) as some sort of human rights violation is an affront to common sense and the irish people. Please desist, for the State its a right to life issue.

by pro choice lady Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:43

What about women in crisis pregnancy situations having to beg, borrow and steal the 835 euros it costs to terminate a pregnancy in the UK? Having control over your own body is a basic human right! Are you that ignorant that you don’t see that lack of free, safe and legal abortion services in Ireland as a violation of women’s rights? What about women’s lives??????

by Motormouth Sat May 07, 2005 14:02

It is interesting how rights based legislation and grassroots activism by parents of the handicapped has led to huge demands for teaching assistants, resource teachers etc.

Given the finite resources of the education system it would be interesting to see what the likely implications of this growing trend are on the majority of the school-going population??

Should the pro-life lobby be required to shoulder part of the burder caused in part by their activism?

by Rory Carr - The Rory Carr Foundation Sat May 07, 2005 23:59 carr_rory at yahoo dot co dot uk 07855 149 252

The agenda of the abortion debate is driven by the shifting needs of capital. When a society can wrest itself free of the oppressive demands of that tyranny then all male humans must defer to the female human's exercise of prerogative choice. How other but can we we proceed in love, in comradeship?

The best expressed Catholic articulation of the underlying tender humanity of that church was that of Cardinal Winning of Glasgow who, to say crudely, "put his money where his mouth was". This position has been denigrated and dismissed as a devious tactic, a ploy to continue the oppression of women's right to their own bodies. I do not not believe but that Winning was acting other than in deepest sincerity out of his genuine concern and care for the physical, mental and spiritual well being of female humans within his diocese of care.

A woman's right to choose remains (and must remain) inviolable. The function of men who would be progressive, who would be socialist, who would be communist, I believe, is to strive with all our might to overthrow the dominance of that regime that prevents women from making a wholly free choice.

In the interim do attempt to be loving. It has its own rewards as our mentor, Marx, did know so well and which aspect of his great humanity drove all his work.