Robert McCartney's partner and sisters on radio

by jeff Wed Feb 23, 2005 15:21

Scumbags and murderers, I only hope they get what should be coming to them, and get it mean.

Respect to Robert McCarthy's family.

by Séamus Ó Cadhain Wed Feb 23, 2005 15:54

Those that attacked Robert McCartney in such a savage, bestial way deserve life imprisonment. They are sick, sadistic cowards.

However, I think that those who are using these actions as a stick to beat Sinn Féin should remeber the words of Jean McConville's son. When Minister McDowell last used the killing McConville to attack SF, McCoinville's son came on radio next morning, praised Gerry Adams for his humanity in dealing with the issue and said that McDowell sickened him by using his mother's name as some sort of political rallying cry.

The vast bulk of the people of the Short Strand vote SF. So too did Robert McCartney and his family. The people of the Short Strand - and I've been there many times - mostly see teh IRA as the defenders of the people against marauding loyalists whose numbers dwarf the Short Strand area locally.

What these men done - and I agree they were IRA members - is besmirch the names and ideology of republicanism. They are blackguards through and through, but they do not represent republicanism, either in the Short Strand or anywhere else. They deserve no succour or support from anyone.

by toneore Wed Feb 23, 2005 19:02 toneore at eircom dot net

So, Séamus Ó Cadhain, tell us:

1) Was the murder of Jean McConville a crime?
2) Was Robert's murder a crime?

The issue with Michael McDowell relates to a Morning Ireland new programme on RTE. Jean's son criticized *politicians* who made political capital from his mum's murder, but the point you miss was that also laid in Mitchell McLaughlin's comments about this mum's murder not being a crime...

by the shadow Thu Feb 24, 2005 14:55

I agree with Seamus on this one. The implications of this murder are much more far reachng than the bank job. The people who did this should be charged. I dont care if the thug who did this is a high ranking provo. What was done to Mr McCartney was as bad as anything the Shankhill Butchers did.
I have supported the Peace Process from the begining and like many have been cynical of the way the political parties here have been scoring cheap shots at Sinn Fein in recent weeks regardless of what damage this does to the Peace Process.
However the Peace process stands for nothing if Sinn Fein and the IRA in Belfast intimidates their own community into silence on Roberts murder.
This is the acid test. If the IRA stand by this murderous "oglach" then they stand against the communities they clam to represent
Enough of the bullshit and spin. The McCartneys deserve justice- their community needs to know whether republicans represent or control them.
Time for the Army Council, whoever they are, to do the right thing

by Sherlock Holmes Thu Feb 24, 2005 17:15

I agree 100% the scum who did this should be locked up with the key being thrown away. If they had any respect for republicanism they would hand themselves in.

by Séamus Thu Feb 24, 2005 17:32

Let me qualify what I'm about to say by the fact that I believe all of humanity's inhumanity to man is a crime, full stop. However, when an imperialist usurps your democracy, civil rights, personal liberty, right to protest, with a superior gun, sometimes the only option (and even Gandhi is with me on this point) is to fight back using force.

1) Jean McConville had helped British soldiers by allowing them to use her residence for spying on several occasions. She was warned of the implications on several occasions. Killing her was wrong, but not a crime (in your sense of the word): it was an act of war.

2) Was Robert's murder a crime?
Absolutely. It was a crime by anyone's standards and not an act of war. It done nothing only satisfied the bloodlust of a gang of debauched, murderous, bestial reactionaries. Bobby Sands died to purge the brand of criminality; they've just went and proved him wrong. If the PSNI don't get them, the Provos should. If neither get them, then the IRA have lost their moral authority.

by Devil Dog Thu Feb 24, 2005 19:15

IRA? Moral authority???? You have got to be taking th piss!!!

by Séamus Thu Feb 24, 2005 19:27

Your have got to be a PD.

by Concerned Thu Feb 24, 2005 19:56

The McCartney sisters made it perfectly clear on the radio that the Murder of Robert was not an isolated incident. Local provos have engaged in many more acts of brutality against the community they are supposed to represent. Rape, assault, intimidation etc. These activities are not just isolated to the Short Strand either. It's not for a laugh the the IRA are now known as the Rafia. In reality the attitude of many in the Catholic community is that they are afraid of the local provos but they are more afraid of loyalist paramilitaries. It is clear that the IRA are playing on these fears.

The IRA dominate Catholic communities all over the North, often with intimidation. They have also attempted this in the South with little success. People in the South are not under the same threat from loyalists and do not have the same siege mentality. The clinical way that the murderers of Robert McCartney went about removing all physical evidence and the systematic way they went about intimidating witnesses, shows a complete disregard for the rights of the people they claim to represent.

To comment about what Seamus said about Jean McConville. Yes she may have been a minor cog in the British intelligence gathering apparatus (an by all accounts not a very good one), but how many people have the IRA forced to participate in their activities, driving car bombs, hiding guns etc.

Interestingly it appears Gerry Adams is trying to backtrack on his comments about Robert McCartney's murder by suggesting that it might be manslaughter and not murder.

by Questions for Concerned Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:30

Can we have some evidence of these rapes that the IRA have done. It seems like a story that the Herald or Indo would make up, like the recent one "Provo's recruit kids as youn as 8". Also provide the link for where gerry adams said mccartneys murder was manslaughter. I live in belfast and i can tell you know what you are saying is absolute crap.

by Concerned Fri Feb 25, 2005 13:13

You comments are typical of the stuff that Sinn Fein supporters come out with. It's all lies. The IRA didn't murder Robert McCartney. Gerry Adams didn't say this. Sinn Fein didn't do that. O'Snodaigh doesn't know how his posters ended up in the van etc.

Gerry Adams was speaking on Morning Ireland on RTE Radio on Feb 23rd when he described Robert McCartney's murder as 'manslaughter'. As far as he was concerned it was 'just a killing'. This is a clear attempt to downgrade the murder of this young man and take the heat off of Sinn Fein and the IRA.

I have already stated that Robert McCartney's sisters outlined a series of incidents involving the IRA in the Short Strand during their interview with Marian Finucane on the same morning as the comments by Adams. I BELIEVE THESE WOMEN. You show me one person on the Short Strand that will step forward and point the finger at these individuals for this murder or the other incidents outlined in the face of IRA threats. Look at the treatment meeted out to Cllr. Pat McGinn (also outlined by the McCartney women). If you really do live in Belfast then you should know the reality of living in provo territory.

by Sherlock Holmes Fri Feb 25, 2005 14:11

91 people have come forward to the PSNI or some other local authority figure. Fact. That can be verified by conatcting the PSNI's press office. I am very concerned with your like of substance to your argument and your attempts to brush me aside by meekly calling me a sinn fein supporter. Bring me forward your evidence and i will go respond to each and everyone. Adams never said it was manslaugther you can check your facts again, you are wrong. This savage brutal murder cannot be described as anything else.

by The best thing Fri Feb 25, 2005 14:55

What is needed is an agreement on policing that Sinn Fein would sign up to. If republicans were sitting on the police boards then the whole issue of "criminality" within republican ranks would be dealt with.

by Concerned Fri Feb 25, 2005 18:36

Maybe 'Sherlock Holmes' can tell me what Adams said on RTE radio. Was he listening to the interview?

As for the lack of substance in my claims - are you suggesting that Robert McCartney's sisters are lying about the activities of the IRA in the Short Strand.

by Concerned Fri Feb 25, 2005 18:39

but none of them give information about the killers of Robert McCartney because of intimidation by the IRA.....intimidation that still continues both by the IRA and Sinn Fein.

by rooster Fri Feb 25, 2005 18:46

1) Jean McConville had helped British soldiers by allowing them to use her residence for spying on several occasions. She was warned of the implications on several occasions. Killing her was wrong, but not a crime (in your sense of the word): it was an act of war.

The paragraph above is a blatant lie!!!
For a start, this is the first time it has ever been mentioned, you try to blacken the name of a murdered mother by hurling mud in the hope that some sticks!
Her only crime was to comfort a dying soldier who was bleeding to death outside her home, oh and lets not forget the ultimate crime, being a protestant in Ireland.

by barry Fri Feb 25, 2005 20:08

It was widely reported last year that a young woman, a single mother, awoke one night to find a masked intruder in her bedroom. This man attempted to climb into her bed but the young woman fought him off and screamed for help. The masked man ran off. Local people were alerted by the womans screams and gave chase to the fleeing pervert. He was observed hiding in bushes, and local men surrounded him and draggged him out. When they unmasked him it turned out he was a senior PIRA commander in the area.

This was only one incident, there have been others.

Short Strand is not the only area where such events have occured. 2 years ago, in the Unity flats area of Belfast, the local community went on the warpath after it became apparent that a number of young boys had been repeatedly sexually abused by local provo leader/community worker Paul Stitt. Stitt , an ex-prisoner, was spirited out of the area by sinn fein as angry parents went in search of his blood. His name was painted on walls throughout the area by local parents. Their children had been afraid to report him previously for fear of them and their families being kneecapped.

The overwhelming majority of people within sinn fein are undoubtedly sickened and horrified by these events. They have been totally betrayed as well as the local communities which suffered. However the responsibility ultimately lies wit those who put these individuals in a position of near absolute power over the local communities. Rather than fighting a war of liberation , Adams and McGuiness saw the IRAs primary role as an agent of control within the nationalist communities. Dissent against their leadership and Stormont would be suppressed at all costs. Many genuine republicans,quite a few of who still are loyal to sinn fein, had no interest whatsoever in controlling their communities this way. There fore the enforcers need to do this dirty job generally turned out to be warped and corrupt in personality. These sexual attacks are undoubtedly an extreme example. In many other areas it has been simple and sheer savagery and facism.

While Adams and McGuiness have used such individuals to control the communities in a Stalinist manner, both the British govt and free state encouraged and commended them for doing so. They have a nerve getting on their high horses now and pretending they never knew what was going on. They most definitely did the dirty fuckin hypocrites.

by Hector Fri Feb 25, 2005 23:01

I believe that the IRA has issued a statement denying that they had any role in the recent heavy snowfalls.

I assume that Barry and Rooster and McDowell etc believe the IRA must be responsible for it as one only needs to look at the amount of snowfalls since the beginning of the IRA campaign to realise that this is also a major 'criminal conspiracy' to repress the nationalist community and the fact that they wear balaclavas is all the proof needed..

by Gerry Fri Feb 25, 2005 23:15

The Game is up. It is all the fault of all those uppity fenians. Imagining having the cheek to think that their votes could be considered equal to unionist votes. How undemocratic and stupid can those fenians get?

Those fenians and croppies should just get back down on their knees and accept what the British, unionist and Dublin politicians tell them is good for them. They should be made to enjoy those family fun-filled Orange parades just like the Quinn Family did, ask those lovely British soldiers and RUC/PSNI nice oficers to continue beating them whenever they stop and remind them that they missed taking one of the children's christmas presents from under the tree when they are departing with all the kids toys.

Just look at how great life is now for the Iraqi people imprisoned in Abu Gharib prison. They are literally queing up to get into Abu Gharib after hearing how wonderful the British treat their subjects in places like Long Kesh and Holyrood Barracks and Castlereagh.

Everything would just be fine if those damn uppity croppies would do just as Ahern and McDowell want them to do and let the British and unionists once again repress them like in the good old days. All this demanding rights, equality or a United Ireland is just not on. Where do they think they live? A Republic?

by barry Sat Feb 26, 2005 00:00

These events have had a serious impact on the nationalist community throughout the north. They simply deserve better than to replace one set of oppressors with another. We have had many occcasions in the last number of years were the PIRA categorically denied things.

They denied they would ever call a ceasefire while the occupation remained, they denied they would ever set foot in Stormont, that they would ever decomission a single round and it was all lies. A few years ago they denied murdering Joe OConnor and the free-state, SDLP, RUC and the Brits backed them up on that as they were quite happy to see it.

Trying to lump myself in with a right wing west brit and a true blue loyalist bigot is a cheap way of avoiding legitimate criticism of a Stalinist leadership and the minority of lowlifes they have used to control areas. Another sf supporter here has acknowledged at least some of what im saying is legitimate criticism. It seems you are only capable of cheap sarcasm.

As Ive pointed out elsewhere, the Sinn Fein leadership allowed republicans to be sucked in to this situation in the first place. They convinced people that the way ahead lay through partitionist and Brit created corrupt institutions. It was pointed out to them years ago that these institutions were created to protect the status quo, and that the second they stepped out of line they would be made toe the line or be booted out of the institutions. Thats exactly what has happened.

I agree that no evidence whatsoever has been produced to link the provisional movement to the bank robbery. That is my point precisely - the process Adams and co signed up to doesnt need things like proof. It will simply protect partition and British interests at every step along the way. Anyone who tried to point this out was silenced, threatened and sidelined, no debate was ever permitted.

Furthermore, it has been announced that from now on, all intelligence gathering and security assessments done in the North will be carried out by none other than MI5. All it takes is one wrong word from those scumbags and Sinn Fein can be booted out on their arses at any time in the future also.

So much for the new dispensation heralded by the sinn fein leadership. The role of these MI5 mass murderers in Irish affairs has now been yet again cemented by this process of surrender. Sinn Feins so called strategy is now in absolute tatters, and yet those responsible for it will tolerate no criticism whatsoever. They will carry on with their failed strategy rather than admit they were wrong. They will try and force us all to go along with it no matter what the damage is to the republican cause. They simply have no other options and no-where else to go.

The mess they are in now is one of their own making. If they hadnt thrown revolutionary republican principles out the window they simply wouldnt be in this mess now. These institutions hold out no hope whatsoever for republican objectives.

Republicanism is now becoming synonymous with corruption and criminality, its being dragged through the gutter in the public arena. Rather than scoff sarcastically Hector would be better asking himself what Sin Fein will do now.

by Hector Sat Feb 26, 2005 00:23

Hey Barry, I dont Support Sinn Fein. I am just commenting on what I see and hear. I'm just sick of people regardless of who they are blame everything on Republicans, of whatever faction, for everything that is wrong in this Country without ever having evidence to back it up.

You claim that Republicanism is being dragged through the Gutter. Yet as one that wouldnt describe myself as Republican in the way that you would (I dont support SF, IRA, RIRA, CIRA, RSF, 32CSM etc) I can see clearly through the hostility of the political and media establishment on this issue. Whether they are right or wrong, they are running scared of the political challenge of Sinn Fein. Any eejit can see that this is the case.

I am sure there are criminals in the republcian movement - just like there are in every other political party, trade union, church, sporting body etc. Just because the scumbags that killed mcCartney were in the IRA does not make the IRA or SF either responsible or criminals.

In my local area, two members of the Labour party were convicted of child sexual abuse (the cases were in no way connected and years apart). These were scumbags but this does not make the Labour party a party of paedohiles or a criminal organisation.

Besides all that anyway, lighten up Barry.

by barry Sat Feb 26, 2005 03:36

mebbe your right and i should lighten up.

sorry for mistaking you for a shinner, but there is actually someone who uses that name. thought you were him. without trying to make a martyr out of myself, joe oconnor was a good friend of mine, and ive never got over the savagery, and utter pointlessness of his murder. other friends and close relatives have been abducted, tortured and beaten by these wankers. I probably do have tunnel vision when it comes to these issues.

Im well pissed off also that sf are claiming martyr status for being criminalised, when they have done their absolute damndest to criminalise those republicans who disagreed with adams strategy. The media and establishment used their propaganda faithfully throughout the years, and now they are on the recieving end ive no sympathy at all.

Probably time to see the doctor and get some medication, but this shite is actually very serious when it arrives on your doorstep and determines your future.

aah, ill chill out. But lumping me in with mcdowell and rooster is a fucking crime in itself.

by Henry Joy Sun Feb 27, 2005 14:52

"The paragraph above is a blatant lie!!!
For a start, this is the first time it has ever been mentioned"

Actually the IRA have claimed for years that Jean McConville had spied for the British and had been warned on a previous occasion. The problem for the IRA is that now even they accept that they were riddled with British agents. How can they be sure that they got the "right people"?

How about that infamous spy in Kerry/Cork, Sean McCarthy(?) who is feted by the likes of Ruth Dudley Edwards. He shot an IRA member accused of being an informer to cover his own actions. Surely the IRA should admit thatt at least in that case there is serious doubt. Shouldnt the IRA man in question be posthumously be cleared of being a spy? And be put on their Roll of Honour?

by barry Mon Feb 28, 2005 05:31

as a republican im not yet convinced that jean mcconville was doing any actual spying. i know for certain who was doing a serious amount of spying in that area at that very time. a man named george poyntz was doing a major amount of intelligence gathering for the british in the lower falls area.

i know this because my own late father sent him a major amount of weapons, pistols automatics etc up to that area during the very early 70s.

At the later shoot to kill trials of the early 80s it transpitred that poyntz, a trusted republican since the 1950s was actually a british agent . he was a close friend and relative of gerry adams as well, but the media have always liked to keep that bit quiet.

strangely for a man who has claimed securocrats are out to blacken him this years that they kept his relatiionship with george quiet..

by Rooster Mon Feb 28, 2005 22:18

"Actually the IRA have claimed for years that Jean McConville had spied for the British and had been warned on a previous occasion."

by Observer Thu Mar 03, 2005 23:38 sean68 at hotmail dot com 02890356714

Irish terrorists on both sides have spent 30 years torturing maiming and murdering men women and children. I dont care what spin anyone puts on any of it - the men and women of PIRA / UVF / INLA / UDA are fascist scum - they spend their lives causing misery to others. If the Brits were Americans they would just send in missisles and wipe them out. If the scum were Muslims they would all be dead and the people of Ireland would be a lot better off.
Wipe out the fascist scum , unite the Island , and lets contribute something other than misery to the planet.

by Sinn Féin Fri Mar 04, 2005 00:26

Gerry Adams statement on Robert McCartney case
Published: 3 March, 2005
http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/8745

by Devil Dogs Fri Mar 04, 2005 01:47

touting to me...Grizzly had better be careful he doesn't make the acquaintence of a 9mm on a secluded beach, it's happened before!

by a TRUE Republican Fri Mar 04, 2005 09:31

The attitude of many Sinn Féin supporters in the North, in response to the antics and heavy-handed intimidation has been, "if only the IRA/Sinn Féin leadership knew what was going on they would stop it".

Very reminiscent of the pleadings of the victims in Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany.

Of course Adams and co know what goes on. They sanction it. It ensures the organisation's wealth and power-base. For to long has the term "Republican" been sullied by these louts, rapists and murderers. I say we take back the name. I'm proud to be a Republican. Our democracy isn't perfect but it's far and away better than the totalitarian regime epitomised by the Short Strand area.

by Shelock Holmes Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:04

Do any of you people actually know what a fascist is? By constantly labelling people fascists who just quite clearly aren't, the name will mean nothing as a warning if there is ever a strong fascist organisation in Ireland. People will choose to ignore the warning as you have labeled everybody a fascist.

by rooster Thu Mar 10, 2005 20:25

Was just thinking to myself earlier today, if they had slit the throat of an off-duty policeman or a member of the armed forces home on leave or just a random prod.

Would there have been quite such a hoo-haa?

by barry Thu Mar 10, 2005 21:03

in fact the hoo-hah as you call it would be even worse id imagine.

The current predicament of the $£ leadership is as a result of the determination of the McCartney family to persue these murderers and the fact that so many in their own community are standing beside the family.

Are you saying that the lives of British soldiers and cops are less important to the British and Free State estalishments than those damned taigs. More evidence of institutionalsied persecution of the brethren eh ?

by Irish Cultural Attache in San Francisco Thu Mar 10, 2005 21:38 irishculturalattache at gmail dot com

I agree, this term in wrong. Nazis is a better term. National Socialism at it's worse. Did anyone see Big Mac McDonald suttering and stammering her way through Questions and Answers, providing justification for the behaviour of the MOPEs (Most Oppressed People Ever) that inhabit the Short Strand and the Markets - like she, with her Brown Thomas Business Suit and expired Fianna Fail membership card, could relate to MOPEs anyway.

So, now we have the provo killers asking the "permission" of the McCartney family to go and murder those responsible (ah, so they know)? Of course, they would have murdered innocent people anyway. It took great grace for the sisters to tell the provos where to shove their offer. Many of us might have said - "Adams and McGuinness are responsible. Why don't you go ahead and shoot those two thugs as a community service and we'll shut up."

As for the Short Strand knuckle dragging Provo stooges who are lining up to be the fall guys for the really guilty parties - just like the Maskey BJ Brigade who staged a riot when the "Peelers" came to bust those responsible for the murder (Peelers? What century are these morons living in?) - having been bought off with a small % of the Northern Bank haul, all I can say is - I hope you have fun in the prison showers with a large, shaven headed, tattoed unionist gent, with a pierced foreskin. You've already been reamed up the behind by Gerry, anyway. Suckers.

by rooster Fri Mar 11, 2005 02:48

"as a result of the determination of the McCartney family to persue these murderers and the fact that so many in their own community are standing beside the family"

-exactly, "people in their own community", in other words, a similar campaign in the other community would have little or no impact.

by barry Fri Mar 11, 2005 03:32

the"other community" dont vote for the shinners. thats pretty obvious. They are afraid of the community reaction because theres an election coming, no other reason.

But neither does the board of the Northern Bank vote for them and theyre still in shite over that. They arent even being penalised over Robert McCartneys murder, just for the money. Even the peelers arent blaming the provies as a group for the killing, so im afraid by no stretch of the imagination is this evidence of an ongoing campaign against the brethren.

If you seriously believe the provies would not be in deep trouble for killing a cop or a soldier you need your head examined. Seriously.

by rooster Fri Mar 11, 2005 05:52

erm...rooster

Even the peelers arent blaming the provies as a group for the killing, so im afraid by no stretch of the imagination is this evidence of an ongoing campaign against the brethren.


Ha Ha Ha, Barry, you are hilarious!!!
Everyone, knows it was the ra that slit the guys throat, why else would the ra offer to top some of their own guys?

by mr. boundary commission Fri Mar 11, 2005 23:54

Surely one should not go around saying "it was the 'ra who slit his throat" ....
Perhaps "some rogue elements within the 'ra" would be a better formulation ....

by rooster Sat Mar 12, 2005 06:09

Surely one should not go around saying "it was the 'ra who slit his throat" ....
Perhaps "some rogue elements within the 'ra" would be a better formulation ....

Well if your saying that, maybe it was rogue elements in the parachute regiment on bloody sunday or rogue elements of the sas on gibraltar?

by Nordie Sat Mar 12, 2005 06:18

Well, if the murderers of Robert McCartney had been on active service and all that you may have a point.

What about those 9 British soldiers who were in the paper last week for making a video of them having a orgy with a wee 16 year old girl? Did the British Army do that?

How did you people get to rule us for so long? Loyalists have a combined IQ of about 70.

by Mr Deeds Sat Mar 12, 2005 15:44

Dozey Rooster said: "Well if your saying that, maybe it was rogue elements in the parachute regiment on bloody sunday or rogue elements of the sas on gibraltar?"

Dont know how you made that out Rooster unless youre a total idiot altogether. Those that carried out both those operations, carried them out on direct orders from the political and military establishment in the British Government and have since been praised for their actions and actually promoted. I have never heard any member of any British Government or any unionist/loyalist politician ever condemn these killings. Ever. Would you condemn them Rooster or do you only believe that killers should onlybe condemned if they come from the nationalist community?

by Gemma McCartney - justiceforrobert.org Thu Jun 09, 2005 18:10 gemma.mccartney at justiceforrobert dot org Belfast

They murdered my brother without regard - Do they think that does not hurt? It breaks my heart. - They thought could walk away because they had the shield of the IRA. But the IRA is a more educated animal than these beasts, and true Republicans have seen through their attempts to dismiss the actions that were authorised that night.When the Army counsel held an internal inquiry the result upheld the reasoning that they must be held accountable for those actions. Despite public calls from the leader of Sinn Fein these men still act without account and dismiss the authority that they swore allegiance to. Will time ease their conscience? I shall make it MY task to continuously remind them of the error of their ways and the debt they owe us all.
Brave men, who have fought and suffered for principles, have admitted that this has become an public embarrassment to their aspirations of Truth and Justice. This calls out to be rectified before the credibility of nationalism, republicanism or political mandates can be restored. On an international stage, the people who became embroiled in the events of that night, have been shown to have acted like a pack of hyenas, with a blood-lust that strikes fear to the core of society. When the is no hope of mercy Justice nor accountability the very fabric of society begins to dissolve. The moral disciplines by which we live will most assuredly cast our destiny. And the Irish reputation for civility and respectability died on that night.
How can the man in the street begin to fix what has been so damaged? I am tempted to say - write to your MP (MLA, or representative). It may vent your anger or opinion but in normal society the mechanism is a system where the price for murder is imprisonment. I want people to say to their brother, sister, cousin and neighbour: "We want a fair society. Who can deliver that for us?" Rebuke those who suppress your freedom of speech by verbally attacking you, argue the case for righteousness, and stand up to threats (implied or real) because together we stand United; divided we all lose our future. While the Police need the support of the public to prosecute criminals, witnesses to that crime need to fulfill their social and moral obligation to protect the victims. Similarly, how many of you would hesitate to telephone for an ambulance, if you arrived at a serious RTA? Regret after the event is one thing, but to remain inactive and not try to make amends is inexcusable. It may take courage, that you thought you did not possess, but doing something to prevent crime can only yield benefits for us all in the future. Support for Justice is a flaming torch that needs to shine through any attempt at cover up. Ours is the right to claim Justice, demand Justice and expect Justice for all victims.


Gemma McCartney
mailto:gemma.mccartney@justiceforrobert.org