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Opening up Croke Park

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Monday February 21, 2005 22:00author by Barra Ó Gríobhtha Report this post to the editors

Seán’s ninth birthday is approaching and with this in mind his father Jimmy asks him if he would have any interest in watching Ireland Vs France this coming weekend in Landsdowne Rd. Sean is ecstatic at the prospect, so the following day his dad sets out to purchase a pair of tickets for the big game. To his dismay though, there is a reduced capacity in the stadium due to FIFA regulations and as a result Jimmy is unable to purchase tickets from any of the legitimate sources. For a while he wonders if he might chance his arm and negotiate a ticket from a tout prior to the match, but eventually his financial situation deems this option a non-starter.


Jimmy heads for home dejected when it suddenly dawns on him that Dublin are playing Meath on Sunday. Realizing this, Jimmy turns the car around. “Seán I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news for yeah. The bad news is I couldn’t get tickets for the Ireland match, but I did manage to get us tickets to see Dublin on Sunday instead. How does that sound?” Seán forces a smile and replies “Oh, OK”. “Are you sure?” “Yeah, I guess”. Seán doesn’t play Gaelic at school, in fact he’s never played Gaelic football before, but appreciating the effort his father has made, he decides to humour him and the two head off for Croker that Sunday.

Seán is overawed; from the sound of the crowd reverberating around the stadium to the humorous jibs and friendly exchanges between the rival supporters. The game itself is a cliffhanger and is forced into extra time, with Dublin coming out eventual winners. Seán enjoys his birthday thoroughly, admitting to himself that he had underestimated all that the GAA had to offer. The following week as Jimmy parks in his driveway, he spots his son kicking his football high into the air while his friend prepares to jump and catch it. Motivated by this site, Jimmy makes a few phone calls and before long Seán is playing under-10s football with his local club.

Most people in Ireland seem to be of the opinion right now that the GAA would be mad not to milk soccer and rugby for all their worth by opening up Croke Park and other venues to them. But money should not be a priority for the GAA. Instead their primary concern should be the hearts and minds of young Irish boys and girls like Seán above. A child can only play one sport at a time, and most aspiring athletes will eventually commit to one sport in particular. Sporting organisations in Ireland are themselves involved in a competition, with ticket and jersey sales key to the development of their respective sports. Parents will buy their child either a Munster jersey or a Limerick jersey for Christmas, not both, and the limits on disposable income suggest that in order for there to be a rise in rugby match attendances then their must be a fall in GAA attendances. This competition also extends to the athletes and coaches themselves. The greater the athleticisms and organisation involved, the higher the standard of game achieved, and hence the larger the following and so on. This is why the GAA needs to attract as many young people to their games as possible, and this should be uppermost in their minds.

I’m amazed at how quick people have been to accept the notion that Soccer should be played in Croke Park. So what if the government has invested in Croke Park? The government invests in many of our companies and these companies are hardly expected to open their doors to those they are competing against. Professional Soccer and Rugby are corporations employed within a competitive market. They shouldn’t therefore expect or demand favours from their competitors, especially when that help effects the latter’s market share negatively. Of course I believe that professional Soccer and Rugby would benefit from being played in front of crowds of 80,000 people, but I also believe that Gaelic games will suffer long term as a consequence.

Rugby and Soccer have decided to take the professional route. George Hook stated on Saturday night that players composing the Irish national rugby team bring home salaries that are in the order of tens times that of the average Irish wage. Therefore, here’s a suggestion. How about a wage cut? GAA players bring home no salary, and hence their organisation is in a position to afford Croke Park. Rugby and Soccer can’t have it both ways and they can’t expect an amateur association to come along and rescue them. Of course the GAA could have decided to professionalize, but instead they decided it was better for the game itself if they invested their money on stadia rather than on ludicrous wage deals. That’s called planning for the future and I suggest Rugby and Soccer take a leaf from the GAA’s book. I’m genuinely shocked by the general public’s tendency to defend Soccer and Rugby on this issue when at the end of the day they are left without a proper stadium as a consequence of their own greedy machinations. Have they no long-term strategy planners at the FAI or IRFU? I’m also disgusted by the perception out there that the GAA’s stance on this issue is motivated by bigotry; it equivalent to playing the race card and it repulses me. The GAA is intertwined with the vast majority of communities in Ireland, from Rosslare to Ballycastle, from Achill to Trinity College. Saying the GAA is bigoted is equivalent to saying that the Irish in general are bigoted as far as I’m concerned and I don’t believe this to be the case what so ever.

My dad helped set-up a ladies Gaelic Football team in my hometown, and guided them to the Donegal county final the year they were formed. This required many hours of training per week in every sort of weather. My uncle has managed many teams with similar success. These men were motivated by nothing more than a purist desire to serve their communities, and Croke Park for me is a monument to their benevolence, and the thousands of others out their who serve their communities with no desire for payment. With this in mind, I would strongly suggest that the GAA reclaim the moral high ground on this issue and I hope profoundly that the GAA Congress has the courage to defend its traditional stance on the matter.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   All Sport ?     Conor    Tue Feb 22, 2005 00:07 
   Conor - I think you miss Barry's argument     seedot    Tue Feb 22, 2005 02:36 
   GAA won't gain from opening Croke park     toshkar    Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:05 
   GAA won't gain from opening Croke park     toshkar    Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:05 
   GAA     jonah    Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:14 
   As Irish as me Kangaroo mate!     Bruce Billabong    Tue Feb 22, 2005 14:24 
   Its the right thing to do.     Dublin Exile    Tue Feb 22, 2005 16:07 
   Is it the right thing to do in promoting GAA?     dart    Tue Feb 22, 2005 18:09 
   re: Dart     Dublin Exile    Tue Feb 22, 2005 18:28 
 10   soccer     Barry    Tue Feb 22, 2005 18:54 
 11   Smallmindedness Rides Again!     Dublin Exile    Wed Feb 23, 2005 13:50 
 12   Smallmindedness     Barra Ó Gríobhtha    Fri Feb 25, 2005 16:33 
 13   keep 'em out!     pat c    Fri Feb 25, 2005 16:57 
 14   very well put Barra     barry    Fri Feb 25, 2005 20:30 
 15   Pickle the game why don't you     Kev    Thu Apr 07, 2005 20:50 
 16   barry comments     kev again    Thu Apr 07, 2005 21:02 
 17   Back to back world cups, '06-'07.     Real Irish Patriot    Thu Apr 07, 2005 21:14 
 18   croker     lucie    Fri Apr 08, 2005 19:26 
 19   Nothing wrong with a bit of C&W     Barry    Fri Apr 08, 2005 21:28 
 20   For the record - Rule 42     Hibee    Fri Apr 15, 2005 00:21 
 21   GAA     Devil Dog    Fri Apr 15, 2005 01:20 
 22   not in conflict with the Aims and Objects of the Association     seedot    Fri Apr 15, 2005 02:31 
 23   Navy and Notre Dame     Barry    Fri Apr 15, 2005 15:42 
 24   21st centuary     David Slattery    Wed Aug 03, 2005 20:39 
 25   Spite     Peter    Fri May 19, 2006 11:42 
 26   yes , how many times has that happened     Barry    Fri May 19, 2006 13:10 
 27   Armagh rugby     Bugger    Fri May 19, 2006 13:57 
 28   Barry     pat c    Fri May 19, 2006 13:59 
 29   Theres no shortage of facilities for Armagh sides     Barry    Fri May 19, 2006 15:18 
 30   My comment     youknowwhoitis    Fri Feb 09, 2007 14:17 
 31   At least it's original     bohsfocus    Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:19 
 32   to Bohsnews     bren    Sat Feb 10, 2007 22:29 
 33   Peter     dub    Sun Feb 11, 2007 13:09 
 34   "God Save the Queen" in Croke Park ?     Paraic    Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:51 
 35   RSF have called a demo     Caobhin    Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:43 
 36   GAA and rugby     bohsfocus    Sat Feb 17, 2007 17:41 
 37   Enjoy it while it lasts!     dub    Sat Feb 17, 2007 18:25 
 38   to bohsfocus     Bren    Sat Feb 17, 2007 18:41 
 39   Jesus wept     John Boy    Sun Feb 18, 2007 01:25 
 40   TO ABOVE     bren    Sun Feb 18, 2007 01:37 
 41   and?     Jasper    Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:00 
 42   Not even God could save the British Queen here!     Jacqueline Fallon    Sun Feb 18, 2007 14:45 
 43   Not just Bloody Sunday     Barry    Sun Feb 18, 2007 20:02 
 44   at least     pat c    Mon Feb 19, 2007 09:56 
 45   Harassment of GAA Players & Supporters in Six Counties by British Queen's Forces     Jacqueline Fallon    Mon Feb 19, 2007 22:19 
 46   Landlords can't ban     Tenant rights    Mon Feb 19, 2007 23:01 
 47   obviously a need for legislation then.     situationalist    Tue Feb 20, 2007 00:18 
 48   GSTQ     curious    Tue Feb 20, 2007 08:44 
 49   Rugby Lover     Congal    Tue Feb 20, 2007 13:44 
 50   No Right to Play "God Save the Queen" in Croke Park     Jacqueline Fallon    Tue Feb 20, 2007 22:13 
 51   Comsider     Meehawl    Wed Feb 21, 2007 14:45 
 52   the Irish national anthem is the intellectual property of the Irish state.     legal eagle    Wed Feb 21, 2007 15:06 
 53   Consider - That's not my point !     Meehawl    Wed Feb 21, 2007 15:28 
 54   Correction     Meehawl    Wed Feb 21, 2007 16:21 
 55   it's not enough knowing the law. I propose a referendum campaign.     legal eagle iosaf    Wed Feb 21, 2007 16:51 
 56   I want an Ireland where youngsters have the right to do punk versions of Amhrán na bhFiann.     iosaf    Wed Feb 21, 2007 20:06 
 57   searches...     anon    Wed Feb 21, 2007 20:53 
 58   Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs speaks out     Paraic    Thu Feb 22, 2007 15:53 
 59   More Important National Business     Meehawl    Thu Feb 22, 2007 20:38 
 60   FABULOUS - Druids joining Dublin Protest to save Tara !     Paraic    Fri Feb 23, 2007 00:17 
 61   well if you click on this link you'll know     helpful    Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:09 
 62   Ownership of Croke Park     John McMahon    Wed Jan 30, 2008 21:02 
 63   Close Croke Park for ever     Rebel Mick    Mon Dec 28, 2009 17:54 


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