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category international | politics / elections | opinion/analysis author Sunday February 06, 2005 17:21author by JOHN PAUL II Supreme Pontiff - Apostolic Constitution.author address Sistine Chapel Report this post to the editors

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( The rules governing the election of the next Pope are determined by the Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici Gregis (UDG), written by John Paul II and promulgated on February 22 of 1996. )

( After the death of Pope John Paul II, the next Pope will be chosen by the Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church. "Confirming therefore the norm of the current Code of Canon Law (cf. Canon 349), which reflects the millennial practice of the Church, I once more affirm that the College of electors of the Supreme Pontiff is composed solely of the Cardinals of Holy Roman Church".)
This Pope was painted by Velazquez and Bacon not Michelangelo nor Rapheal.
This Pope was painted by Velazquez and Bacon not Michelangelo nor Rapheal.

( The deceased Pontiff of Rome is to lie in state in the Holy See for nine days and his testament is to be observed to the detail.)

"When the funeral rites for the deceased Pope have been celebrated according to the prescribed ritual, and everything necessary for the regular functioning of the election has been prepared, on the appointed day — and thus on the fifteenth day after the death of the Pope or, in conformity with the provisions of No. 37 of the present Constitution, not later than the twentieth — the Cardinal electors shall meet in the Basilica of Saint Peter's in the Vatican, or elsewhere, should circumstances warrant it, in order to take part in a solemn Eucharistic celebration with the Votive Mass Pro Eligendo Papa.19 ( Missale Romanum, No. 4, p. 795)"

( The global commercial media with the exception of key Swiss entities have broadcast a Papal address this morning.)

selected excerpts from JOHN PAUL II
SUPREME PONTIFF
APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION
UNIVERSI DOMINICI GREGIS
ON THE VACANCY
OF THE APOSTOLIC SEE
AND THE ELECTION
OF THE ROMAN PONTIFF


7. While the See is vacant, there are two kinds of Congregations of the Cardinals: General Congregations, which include the whole College and are held before the beginning of the election, and Particular Congregations. All the Cardinals who are not legitimately impeded must attend the General Congregations, once they have been informed of the vacancy of the Apostolic See. Cardinals who, by virtue of No. 33 of this Constitution, do not enjoy the right of electing the Pope are granted the faculty of not attending these General Congregations, should they prefer.

The Particular Congregation is made up of the Cardinal Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church and three Cardinals, one from each Order, chosen by lot from among the Cardinal electors already present in Rome. The office of these Cardinals, called Assistants, ceases at the conclusion of the third full day, and their place is taken by others, also chosen by lot and having the same term of office, also after the election has begun.

During the time of the election, more important matters are, if necessary, dealt with by the assembly of the Cardinal electors, while ordinary affairs continue to be dealt with by the Particular Congregation of Cardinals. In the General and Particular Congregations, during the vacancy of the Apostolic See, the Cardinals are to wear the usual black cassock with piping and the red sash, with skull-cap, pectoral cross and ring.

"According to the provisions of Article 6 of the Apostolic Constitution Pastor Bonus,13 at the death of the Pope all the heads of the Dicasteries of the Roman Curia — the Cardinal Secretary of State and the Cardinal Prefects, the Archbishop Presidents, together with the members of those Dicasteries — cease to exercise their office. An exception is made for the Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church and the Major Penitentiary, who continue to exercise their ordinary functions, submitting to the College of Cardinals matters that would have had to be referred to the Supreme Pontiff.

Likewise, in conformity with the Apostolic Constitution Vicariae Potestatis (No. 2 § 1),14 (Cf. AAS 69 (1977), 9-10.) the Cardinal Vicar General for the Diocese of Rome continues in office during the vacancy of the Apostolic See, as does the Cardinal Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica and Vicar General for Vatican City for his jurisdiction.

15. Should the offices of Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church or of Major Penitentiary be vacant at the time of the Pope's death, or should they become vacant before the election of his successor, the College of Cardinals shall as soon as possible elect the Cardinal, or Cardinals as the case may be, who shall hold these offices until the election of the new Pope. In each of the two cases mentioned, election takes place by a secret vote of all the Cardinal electors present, with the use of ballots distributed and collected by the Masters of Ceremonies. The ballots are then opened in the presence of the Camerlengo and of the three Cardinal Assistants, if it is a matter of electing the Major Penitentiary; if it is a matter of electing the Camerlengo, they are opened in the presence of the said three Cardinals and of the Secretary of the College of Cardinals. Whoever receives the greatest number of votes shall be elected and shall ipso facto enjoy all the relevant faculties. In the case of an equal number of votes, the Cardinal belonging to the higher Order or, if both are in the same Order, the one first created a Cardinal, shall be appointed. Until the Camerlengo is elected, his functions are carried out by the Dean of the College or, if he is absent or lawfully impeded, by the Subdean or by the senior Cardinal according to the usual order of precedence, in conformity with No. 9 of this Constitution, who can without delay take the decisions that circumstances dictate.

16. If during the vacancy of the Apostolic See the Vicar General for the Diocese of Rome should die, the Vicegerent in office at the time shall also exercise the office proper to the Cardinal Vicar in addition to the ordinary vicarious jurisdiction which he already holds.15 Should there not be a Vicegerent, the Auxiliary Bishop who is senior by appointment will carry out his functions.

17. As soon as he is informed of the death of the Supreme Pontiff, the Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church must officially ascertain the Pope's death, in the presence of the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations, of the Cleric Prelates of the Apostolic Camera and of the Secretary and Chancellor of the same; the latter shall draw up the official death certificate. The Camerlengo must also place seals on the Pope's study and bedroom, making provision that the personnel who ordinarily reside in the private apartment can remain there until after the burial of the Pope, at which time the entire papal apartment will be sealed; he must notify the Cardinal Vicar for Rome of the Pope's death, whereupon the latter shall inform the People of Rome by a special announcement; he shall notify the Cardinal Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica; he shall take possession of the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican and, either in person or through a delegate, of the Pal- aces of the Lateran and of Castel Gandolfo, and exercise custody and administration of the same; he shall determine, after consulting the heads of the three Orders of Cardinals, all matters concerning the Pope's burial, unless during his lifetime the latter had made known his wishes in this regard; and he shall deal, in the name of and with the consent of the College of Cardinals, with all matters that circumstances suggest for safeguarding the rights of the Apostolic See and for its proper administration. During the vacancy of the Apostolic See, the Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church has the duty of safeguarding and administering the goods and temporal rights of the Holy See, with the help of the three Cardinal Assistants, having sought the views of the College of Cardinals, once only for less important matters, and on each occasion when more serious matters arise.

18. The Cardinal Major Penitentiary and his Officials, during the vacancy of the Apostolic See, can carry out the duties laid down by my Predecessor Pius XI in the Apostolic Constitution Quae Divinitus of 25 March 1935,16 and by myself in the Apostolic Constitution Pastor Bonus.17

19. The Dean of the College of Cardinals, for his part, as soon as he has been informed of the Pope's death by the Cardinal Camerlengo or the Prefect of the Papal Household, shall inform all the Cardinals and convoke them for the Congregations of the College. He shall also communicate news of the Pope's death to the Diplomatic Corps accredited to the Holy See and to the Heads of the respective Nations.

20. During the vacancy of the Apostolic See, the Substitute of the Secretariat of State, the Secretary for Relations with States and the Secretaries of the Dicasteries of the Roman Curia remain in charge of their respective offices, and are responsible to the College of Cardinals.

21. In the same way, the office and attendant powers of Papal Representatives do not lapse.

22. The Almoner of His Holiness will also continue to carry out works of charity in accordance with the criteria employed during the Pope's lifetime. He will be dependent upon the College of Cardinals until the election of the new Pope.

23. During the vacancy of the Apostolic See, all the civil power of the Supreme Pontiff concerning the government of Vatican City State belongs to the College of Cardinals, which however will be unable to issue decrees except in cases of urgent necessity and solely for the time in which the Holy See is vacant. Such decrees will be valid for the future only if the new Pope confirms them!

33. The right to elect the Roman Pontiff belongs exclusively to the Cardinals of Holy Roman Church, with the exception of those who have reached their eightieth birthday before the day of the Roman Pontiff's death or the day when the Apostolic See becomes vacant. The maximum number of Cardinal electors must not exceed one hundred and twenty. The right of active election by any other ecclesiastical dignitary or the intervention of any lay power of whatsoever grade or order is absolutely excluded.

37. I furthermore decree that, from the moment when the Apostolic See is lawfully vacant, the Cardinal electors who are present must wait fifteen full days for those who are absent; the College of Cardinals is also granted the faculty to defer, for serious reasons, the beginning of the election for a few days more. But when a maximum of twenty days have elapsed from the beginning of the vacancy of the See, all the Cardinal electors present are obliged to proceed to the election.

HE PLACE OF THE ELECTION AND THOSE ADMITTED TO IT BY REASON OF THEIR OFFICE

41. The Conclave for the election of the Supreme Pontiff shall take place within the territory of Vatican City, in determined areas and buildings, closed to unauthorized persons in such a way as to ensure suitable accommodation for the Cardinal electors and all those legitimately called to cooperate in the orderly functioning of the election.

42. By the time fixed for the beginning of the election of the Supreme Pontiff, all the Cardinal electors must have been assigned and must have taken up suitable lodging in the Domus Sanctae Marthae, recently built in Vatican City.

If reasons of health, previously confirmed by the appropriate Congregation of Cardinals, require that a Cardinal elector should have a nurse in attendance, even during the period of the election, arrangements must be made to provide suitable accommodation for the latter.

43. From the beginning of the electoral process until the public announcement that the election of the Supreme Pontiff has taken place, or in any case until the new Pope so disposes, the rooms of the Domus Sanctae Marthae, and in particular the Sistine Chapel and the areas reserved for liturgical celebrations are to be closed to unauthorized persons, by the authority of the Cardinal Camerlengo and with the outside assistance of the Substitute of the Secretariat of State, in accordance with the provisions set forth in the following Numbers.

During this period, the entire territory of Vatican City and the ordinary activity of the offices located therein shall be regulated in a way which permits the election of the Supreme Pontiff to be carried out with due privacy and freedom. In particular, provision shall be made to ensure that no one approaches the Cardinal electors while they are being transported from the Domus Sanctae Marthae to the Apostolic Vatican Palace.

44. The Cardinal electors, from the beginning of the election until its conclusion and the public announcement of its outcome, are not to communicate — whether by writing, by telephone or by any other means of communication — with persons outside the area where the election is taking place, except in cases of proven and urgent necessity, duly acknowledged by the Particular Congregation mentioned in No. 7. It is also the competence of the Particular Congregation to recognize the necessity and urgency of any communication with their respective offices on the part of the Cardinal Major Penitentiary, the Cardinal Vicar General for the Diocese of Rome and the Cardinal Archpriest of the Vatican Basilica.

45. Anyone not indicated in No. 46 below and who, while legitimately present in Vatican City in accordance with No. 43 of this Constitution, should happen to meet one of the Cardinal electors during the time of the election, is absolutely forbidden to engage in conversation of any sort, by whatever means and for whatever reason, with that Cardinal.

46. In order to meet the personal and official needs connected with the election process, the following individuals must be available and therefore properly lodged in suitable areas within the confines mentioned in No. 43 of this Constitution: the Secretary of the College of Cardinals, who acts as Secretary of the electoral assembly; the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations with two Masters of Ceremonies and two Religious attached to the Papal Sacristy; and an ecclesiastic chosen by the Cardinal Dean or by the Cardinal taking his place, in order to assist him in his duties.

There must also be available a number of priests from the regular clergy for hearing confessions in the different languages, and two medical doctors for possible emergencies.

Appropriate provisions must also be made beforehand for a suitable number of persons to be available for preparing and serving meals and for housekeeping.

All the persons indicated here must receive prior approval from the Cardinal Camerlengo and the three Cardinal Assistants.

47. All the persons listed in No. 46 of this Constitution who in any way or at any time should come to learn anything from any source, directly or indirectly, regarding the election process, and in particular regarding the voting which took place in the election itself, are obliged to maintain strict secrecy with all persons extraneous to the College of Cardinal electors: accordingly, before the election begins, they shall take an oath in the form and using the formula indicated in No. 48.

48. At a suitable time before the beginning of the election, the persons indicated in No. 46 of this Constitution, having been duly warned about the meaning and extent of the oath which they are to take, shall, in the presence of the Cardinal Camerlengo or another Cardinal delegated by him, and of two Masters of Ceremonies, swear and sign the oath according to the following formula:

I, N.N., promise and swear that, unless I should receive a special faculty given expressly by the newly- elected Pontiff or by his successors, I will observe absolute and perpetual secrecy with all who are not part of the College of Cardinal electors concerning all matters directly or indirectly related to the ballots cast and their scrutiny for the election of the Supreme Pontiff.

I likewise promise and swear to refrain from using any audio or video equipment capable of recording anything which takes place during the period of the election within Vatican City, and in particular anything which in any way, directly or indirectly, is related to the process of the election itself. I declare that I take this oath fully aware that an infraction thereof will make me subject to the spiritual and canonical penalties which the future Supreme Pontiff will see fit to adopt, in accordance with Canon 1399 of the Code of Canon Law.

So help me God and these Holy Gospels which I touch with my hand.

When the funeral rites for the deceased Pope have been celebrated according to the prescribed ritual, and everything necessary for the regular functioning of the election has been prepared, on the appointed day — and thus on the fifteenth day after the death of the Pope or, in conformity with the provisions of No. 37 of the present Constitution, not later than the twentieth — the Cardinal electors shall meet in the Basilica of Saint Peter's in the Vatican, or elsewhere, should circumstances warrant it, in order to take part in a solemn Eucharistic celebration with the Votive Mass Pro Eligendo Papa.19 ( Missale Romanum, No. 4, p. 795) This celebration should preferably take place at a suitable hour in the morning, so that in the afternoon the prescriptions of the following Numbers of this Constitution can be carried out.

50. From the Pauline Chapel of the Apostolic Palace, where they will assemble at a suitable hour in the afternoon, the Cardinal electors, in choir dress, and invoking the assistance of the Holy Spirit with the chant of the Veni Creator, will solemnly process to the Sistine Chapel of the Apostolic Palace, where the election will be held.

51. Retaining the essential elements of the Conclave, but modifying some less important elements which, because of changed circumstances, no longer serve their original purpose, I establish and decree by the present Constitution that the election of the Supreme Pontiff, in conformity with the prescriptions contained in the following Numbers, is to take place exclusively in the Sistine Chapel of the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican. The Sistine Chapel is therefore to remain an absolutely enclosed area until the conclusion of the election, so that total secrecy may be ensured with regard to everything said or done there in any way pertaining, directly or indirectly, to the election of the Supreme Pontiff.

It will therefore be the responsibility of the College of Cardinals, operating under the authority and responsibility of the Camerlengo, assisted by the Particular Congregation mentioned in No. 7 of the present Constitution, and with the outside assistance of the Substitute of the Secretariat of State, to make all prior arrangements for the interior of the Sistine Chapel and adjacent areas to be prepared, so that the orderly election and its privacy will be ensured.

60. I further order the Cardinal electors, graviter onerata ipsorum conscientia, to maintain secrecy concerning these matters also after the election of the new Pope has taken place, and I remind them that it is not licit to break the secret in any way unless a special and explicit permission has been granted by the Pope himself.

61. Finally, in order that the Cardinal electors may be protected from the indiscretion of others and from possible threats to their independence of judgment and freedom of decision, I absolutely forbid the introduction into the place of the election, under whatsoever pretext, or the use, should they have been introduced, of technical instruments of any kind for the recording, reproducing or transmitting of sound, visual images or writing.

62. Since the forms of election known as per acclamationem seu inspirationem and per compromissum are abolished, the form of electing the Roman Pontiff shall henceforth be per scrutinium alone.

I therefore decree that for the valid election of the Roman Pontiff two thirds of the votes are required, calculated on the basis of the total number of electors present.

Should it be impossible to divide the number of Cardinals present into three equal parts, for the validity of the election of the Supreme Pontiff one additional vote is required.

63. The election is to begin immediately after the provisions of No. 54 of the present Constitution have been duly carried out.

Should the election begin on the afternoon of the first day, only one ballot is to be held; then, on the following days, if no one was elected on the first ballot, two ballots shall be held in the morning and two in the afternoon. The voting is to begin at a time which shall have been determined earlier, either in the preparatory Congregations or during the election period, but in accordance with the procedures laid down in Nos. 64ff of the present Constitution.

74. In the event that the Cardinal electors find it difficult to agree on the person to be elected, after balloting has been carried out for three days in the form described above (in Nos. 62ff) without result, voting is to be suspended for a maximum of one day in order to allow a pause for prayer, informal discussion among the voters, and a brief spiritual exhortation given by the senior Cardinal in the Order of Deacons. Voting is then resumed in the usual manner, and after seven ballots, if the election has not taken place, there is another pause for prayer, discussion and an exhortation given by the senior Cardinal in the Order of Priests. Another series of seven ballots is then held and, if there has still been no election, this is followed by a further pause for prayer, discussion and an exhortation given by the senior Cardinal in the Order of Bishops. Voting is then resumed in the usual manner and, unless the election occurs, it is to continue for seven ballots.

75. If the balloting does not result in an election, even after the provisions of No. 74 have been fulfilled, the Cardinal electors shall be invited by the Camerlengo to express an opinion about the manner of proceeding. The election will then proceed in accordance with what the absolute majority of the electors decides.

Nevertheless, there can be no waiving of the requirement that a valid election takes place only by an absolute majority of the votes or else by voting only on the two names which in the ballot immediately preceding have received the greatest number of votes; also in this second case only an absolute majority is required.

76. Should the election take place in a way other than that prescribed in the present Constitution, or should the conditions laid down here not be observed, the election is for this very reason null and void, without any need for a declaration on the matter; consequently, it confers no right on the one elected.

77. I decree that the dispositions concerning everything that precedes the election of the Roman Pontiff and the carrying out of the election itself must be observed in full, even if the vacancy of the Apostolic See should occur as a result of the resignation of the Supreme Pontiff, in accordance with the provisions of Canon 333 § 2 of the Code of Canon Law and Canon 44 § 2 of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches.

MATTERS TO BE OBSERVED OR AVOIDED IN THE ELECTION OF THE ROMAN PONTIFF

78. If — God forbid — in the election of the Roman Pontiff the crime of simony were to be perpetrated, I decree and declare that all those guilty thereof shall incur excommunication latae sententiae. At the same time I remove the nullity or invalidity of the same simoniacal provision, in order that — as was already established by my Predecessors — the validity of the election of the Roman Pontiff may not for this reason be challenged.23

79. Confirming the prescriptions of my Predecessors, I likewise forbid anyone, even if he is a Cardinal, during the Pope's lifetime and without having consulted him, to make plans concerning the election of his successor, or to promise votes, or to make decisions in this regard in private gatherings.

80. In the same way, I wish to confirm the provisions made by my Predecessors for the purpose of excluding any external interference in the election of the Supreme Pontiff. Therefore, in virtue of holy obedience and under pain of excommunication latae sententiae, I again forbid each and every Cardinal elector, present and future, as also the Secretary of the College of Cardinals and all other persons taking part in the preparation and carrying out of everything necessary for the election, to accept under any pretext whatsoever, from any civil authority whatsoever, the task of proposing the veto or the so-called exclusiva, even under the guise of a simple desire, or to reveal such either to the entire electoral body assembled together or to individual electors, in writing or by word of mouth, either directly and personally or indirectly and through others, both before the election begins and for its duration. I intend this prohibition to include all possible forms of interference, opposition and suggestion whereby secular authorities of whatever order and degree, or any individual or group, might attempt to exercise influence on the election of the Pope.

81. The Cardinal electors shall further abstain from any form of pact, agreement, promise or other commitment of any kind which could oblige them to give or deny their vote to a person or persons. If this were in fact done, even under oath, I decree that such a commitment shall be null and void and that no one shall be bound to observe it; and I hereby impose the penalty of excommunication latae sententiae upon those who violate this prohibition. It is not my intention however to forbid, during the period in which the See is vacant, the exchange of views concerning the election.

82. I likewise forbid the Cardinals before the election to enter into any stipulations, committing themselves of common accord to a certain course of action should one of them be elevated to the Pontificate. These promises too, should any in fact be made, even under oath, I also declare null and void.

83. With the same insistence shown by my Predecessors, I earnestly exhort the Cardinal electors not to allow themselves to be guided, in choosing the Pope, by friendship or aversion, or to be influenced by favour or personal relationships towards anyone, or to be constrained by the interference of persons in authority or by pressure groups, by the suggestions of the mass media, or by force, fear or the pursuit of popularity. Rather, having before their eyes solely the glory of God and the good of the Church, and having prayed for divine assistance, they shall give their vote to the person, even outside the College of Cardinals, who in their judgment is most suited to govern the universal Church in a fruitful and beneficial way.

84. During the vacancy of the Apostolic See, and above all during the time of the election of the Successor of Peter, the Church is united in a very special way with her Pastors and particularly with the Cardinal electors of the Supreme Pontiff, and she asks God to grant her a new Pope as a gift of his goodness and providence. Indeed, following the example of the first Christian community spoken of in the Acts of the Apostles (cf. 1:14), the universal Church, spiritually united with Mary, the Mother of Jesus, should persevere with one heart in prayer; thus the election of the new Pope will not be something unconnected with the People of God and concerning the College of electors alone, but will be in a certain sense an act of the whole Church. I therefore lay down that in all cities and other places, at least the more important ones, as soon as news is received of the vacancy of the Apostolic See and, in particular, of the death of the Pope, and following the celebration of his solemn funeral rites, humble and persevering prayers are to be offered to the Lord (cf. Mt 21:22; Mk 11:24), that he may enlighten the electors and make them so likeminded in their task that a speedy, harmonious and fruitful election may take place, as the salvation of souls and the good of the whole People of God demand.

85. In a most earnest and heartfelt way I recommend this prayer to the venerable Cardinals who, by reason of age, no longer enjoy the right to take part in the election of the Supreme Pontiff. By virtue of the singular bond with the Apostolic See which the Cardinalate represents, let them lead the prayer of the People of God, whether gathered in the Patriarchal Basilicas of the city of Rome or in places of worship in other particular Churches, fervently imploring the assistance of Almighty God and the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit for the Cardinal electors, especially at the time of the election itself. They will thereby participate in an effective and real way in the difficult task of providing a Pastor for the universal Church.

86. I also ask the one who is elected not to refuse, for fear of its weight, the office to which he has been called, but to submit humbly to the design of the divine will. God who imposes the burden will sustain him with his hand, so that he will be able to bear it. In conferring the heavy task upon him, God will also help him to accomplish it and, in giving him the dignity, he will grant him the strength not to be overwhelmed by the weight of his office.

7. When the election has canonically taken place, the junior Cardinal Deacon summons into the hall of election the Secretary of the College of Cardinals and the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations. The Cardinal Dean, or the Cardinal who is first in order and seniority, in the name of the whole College of electors, then asks the consent of the one elected in the following words: Do you accept your canonical election as Supreme Pontiff? And, as soon as he has received the consent, he asks him: By what name do you wish to be called? Then the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations, acting as notary and having as witnesses two Masters of Ceremonies, who are to be summoned at that moment, draws up a document certifying acceptance by the new Pope and the name taken by him.

88. After his acceptance, the person elected, if he has already received episcopal ordination, is immediately Bishop of the Church of Rome, true Pope and Head of the College of Bishops. He thus acquires and can exercise full and supreme power over the universal Church.

If the person elected is not already a Bishop, he shall immediately be ordained Bishop.

89. When the other formalities provided for in the Ordo Rituum Conclavis have been carried out, the Cardinal electors approach the newly-elected Pope in the prescribed manner, in order to make an act of homage and obedience. An act of thanksgiving to God is then made, after which the senior Cardinal Deacon announces to the waiting people that the election has taken place and proclaims the name of the new Pope, who immedi- ately thereafter imparts the Apostolic Blessing Urbi et Orbi from the balcony of the Vatican Basilica.

If the person elected is not already a Bishop, homage is paid to him and the announcement of his election is made only after he has been solemnly ordained Bishop.

90. If the person elected resides outside Vatican City, the norms contained in the Ordo Rituum Conclavis are to be observed.

If the newly-elected Supreme Pontiff is not already a Bishop, his episcopal ordination, referred to in Nos. 88 and 89 of the present Constitution, shall be carried out according to the usage of the Church by the Dean of the College of Cardinals or, in his absence, by the Subdean or, should he too be prevented from doing so, by the senior Cardinal Bishop.

91. The Conclave ends immediately after the new Supreme Pontiff assents to his election, unless he should determine otherwise. From that moment the new Pope can be approached by the Substitute of the Secretariat of State, the Secretary for Relations with States, the Prefect of the Papal Household and by anyone else needing to discuss with him matters of importance at the time.

92. After the solemn ceremony of the inauguration of the Pontificate and within an appropriate time, the Pope will take possession of the Patriarchal Archbasilica of the Lateran, according to the prescribed ritual.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_22021996_universi-dominici-gregis_en.html

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What follows are not HH JP2's words :-

Mehmet Ali Agca, Pope John Paul II's 1981 would-be assassin, sent a handwritten letter to Pope John Paul II wishing the pope "a speedy recovery." He also called on the Pope to make public the "3rd secret of Fatima". Perhaps someone will write a book.

Your corporate press is taking odds on who will be the next Pontiff of Rome.
Its not a betting matter.

Other Sunday papers news-

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1406844,00.html

http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/papal-election1.htm

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Up Your Arse. What is the point of this cut and paste job? If it was about the "election" of an Islamic religious zealot you'd be falling over backwards screaming about religious freedom and the right of the oppressed Al Qaida promoters...

author by galileopublication date Sun Feb 06, 2005 19:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

HH JP2 was the first Roman Pontiff to meet with the Imam of Damascus and pray with him, HH JP2 was the first Roman Pontiff to pray with the Patriarch of the Orthodox Communion and repair the schism by which the Orthodox Communion holds the Church of Rome to be heretical.
HH JP2 was the first Roman Pontiff to leave very clear and precise instructions for what had better happen when he died.
Last week HH JP2 offered his angelus with a reflection on the "beatitudes" and the observation that "old age is a blessing" and let two doves fly from the balcony but they returned, he laughed and then went to hospital where some days later the Curia denied reports that he had been resuscitated.

If the above document is altered or disregarded in any way, and the most relevant sections are now published according to creative commons and copyleft practise the subsequent election of the Roman Pontiff will be null and void.

HH JP2 expressly prohibited the sin of Simony (the buying of office by influence due to money, prestige, contributions to the church, or social class) in the lengthy tract posted above.
Any plan by any organisation within or without the RC communion to influence the conclave of cardinal electors is heresy.

HH JP2 made no mention of any plan to insist that future pontiffs of Rome retire at 80 years of age or that candidacy for the Roman Pontificate be restricted by age, only those of the Cardinal electors. Any plan by cardinals to do so is heresy.


HH JP2 made no mention of the desirability of a Roman Pontiff from "christendom" rather he in his preamble reminded all when in his good health that the RC communion is universal and open to all who have received the sacrament of Baptism.
Any attempt to restrict the candidates for the Roman Pontificate to Italy or to the states of Europe is heresy.

The RC church and those who have found lives and careers in its service has long been discredited by the wrongdoing and forgery and falsification of the record which in the human condition typifies any institution with such power.

We do not as of yet have a Holy See indymedia site. So Holy Ireland will have to keep an eye on them.

The Pope's a great man.
His is a most important job.
He alone is qualified to call or end a crusade.
He alone is qualified to add or subtract from Canonical law.

He is in a way for the language of the street "the supreme monkey", or as your granny would say - God's representative on earth.

author by Fangpublication date Mon Feb 07, 2005 15:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

under the guidelines set out by HH JP2 in his good health above, they have made it clear that they are unsuitable for election in the current global climate.

Those cardinals who we may therefore consider disqualified from proper consideration for the legitimate election by cardinal electors of conclave for position of Roman Pontiff are upon the death of HH John Paul 2 are -

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
Cardinal Angelo Sodano
Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi

It is quite clear that these men have used their positions of influence and sway over the institutions of the RC church and corporate media to present a view of the election process of the Roman Pontificate which is against the spirit of the Text published above.

Put quite simply
There may not be a legitimately elected Pope Ratzinger, Pope Sodano or Pope Tettamanzi.

Now pray for His Holiness, and for peace.
And for the cardinal electors who shall sit in conclave when the time comes that they alone shall make the decision according to the guidelines, the law and the spirit.

author by -publication date Mon Feb 07, 2005 16:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It is most understandable that in a world where we are subject to lie and manipulation. And where the most promininent of men (those listed above and furthermore Cardinal Schönbaum of Vienna) have shown themselves slow in acting on legitimate complaints of child abuse, corruption, obstruction of criminal evidence and in the case of Cardinal Ratzinger been more than once challenged by their peers for issuing statements on ecumenism which are at odds with Pontiff's previous statements made whilst he was still in good health, that the world does not completely trust "the princes of the church".

Accordingly today the Italian media has challenged the veracity of the angelus recording.

The director of the Polish secretariat of state of the Vatican Pawel Ptasznikhas denied that yesterday's angelus was "pre-recorded" to Corriere de la Sera.

He said the paper in held in front of the Pontiff's mouth was not there to hide visual evidence of the lips moving, but as a prompy chart for HH JP2 to follow.

But the italian press are speculating. This is mundane and ordinary, and if the "princes of the church" mindful of the RC texts and scriptures for yesterday's mass give it some thought quite normal, they would (these 4 cardinals and friends) be more trustworthy to ordinary believers and sinners if they had previously earned such a reward.

The Vatican has confirmed that the Pope will stay in the hospital for yet more days, and will re-appear next Sunday for the angelus but will for the first time in his pontificate not attend the Ash Wednesday ceremony in St Peter's square.

The Spanish press has chosen to lead in its opinions on the "ending of a papacy". But not to enter into any unwarrented or un-needed forecasts or speculation of what may happen as the will of the Roman Pontiff JP 2 is achieved.

author by black smoke and red dragonspublication date Mon Feb 07, 2005 19:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

on the possibile "resignation" by HH JP2.
But stressing that that would be up to the Holy father himself.

There is no facility in Canon Law for this. HH JP2 left precise instructions accepted by the apostolic RC Church on the appointment of his successor when in full health, you may read them above. Not one article dealt with "resignation".

Cardinal Angelo Sodano has also decided to meet
tomorrow in the Holy See, as Secretary of State of the Vatican the US Secretary of State Condoleeze Rice. He will however do so without the presence of the Roman Pontiff.

There is no precedent for this.

Condoleeze Rice as well as being the "foreign minister" of the USA is arguably the most powerful presybytarian in the world. If His Holiness is not well enough to meet her, then it is not appropriate that other "princes of the church" take his place.

If it seems to them, that the Vatican such as it has evolved in its millenial history, needs "the man in charge" all the time, then so be it.

"Old age is a blessing". And they have reminded us all of this again and again. Many old people go gaga. "It is against the will of God to intefere or withdraw medical attention".

Many old people become incoherent, enter dotage, spend their last years beyond normal communicative ability.
And their laws and their history being such as it is, means they have to now "go into pause" and await Gods "holy will".

They can't change a letter of the law, without the Pope who is HH John Paul 2. They can't canonise another saint, they cant go meeting world leaders, they cant go making statements on ecumenism not a bit more.

Maybe in a way "Its Holy See Basta time".

Let's watch how they deal with it.
But remember the Church is more than a few hundred Cardinals in Red. Why to get "presbytarian" about it, the Christ never mentioned cardinals or princes of the Church at all.

author by - - "all the bishop's horse and the bishop's men"publication date Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Papal spokesman the Spaniard, Joaquin Navarro-Valls declined to comment on Sodano's remarks, which were front-page news in Italy on Tuesday as Mr Sodano met at 11am with US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice (replacing at his own suggestion the Roman Pontiff as what is termed in American media "Vatican number 2").

John Paul, 84 years old and in his 27th year as pontiff, has repeatedly said in the past that he has no intention of abdicating. On Sunday, in remarks read out by an archbishop, the pope appeared to reassert his ability to carry on by saying that even in the hospital, "I can continue to serve the church and the whole of humanity."

In 1994, after hip replacement surgery, he joked with his surgeon about the church law that would let him resign if he becomes incapacitated.

"Doctor, neither you nor I have any choice. You have to cure me because there is no room for a pope emeritus," he said at the time.

After meeting Sodano in the Vatican, Miss Rice attended a lunch amidst high security with amongst others with Brandt Hartdley the diplomatic representative of the USA before the Holy See.

Miss Rice arrived in Italy last night accompanied by (according to US news service ABC "an unidentified man") and found her meeting with PM Burlusconi cancelled, Mr Burlusconi (who has chronic flu) asked the Italian Secretary of State to "attend in his place" a man named Gianfranco Fini.

author by OiC - supreme monkeys, primates, legends, paintings by autistics, rainbows and the code bookpublication date Tue Feb 08, 2005 17:48author address http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/special/2000/Fatima/author phone Report this post to the editors

OK put very simply for simple primates-

The pope can not canonically retire.

If another "pope" is elected before the current legitimate pope dies and all the rules he agreed with his primates on his succession are not adhered to "to the letter", (including burial according to the ritual) then that "pope" is not a legitimate "pope".

If a primate wishes to remind everyone that another "pope" resigned then that primate had better explain which one and for which reasons, and start explaining the list of "anti-popes".

Now it may seem medieval or borgia like to have more than one "pope" and it would certainly complicate matters such as "temporal relations between the state of the Holy See and the state of Italy which guarantee the territorial integrity of the Vatican state" as well as effecting all other states who hold diplomatic relations with the Church of Rome at that state if there is more than one candidate for "head of state" under canonical and international law.

This might be called unholy "catch 22".

If in the future "Mr Solano's plan" is hatched and the cardinal electors (all 120 primates) are not satisfied (and the wider communion of over 1 billion Roman Catholic baptised) that the legitimate Pope has changed his mind in ill health on a matter he had previously been completely resolute, then it would seem to distant observers that the rules are being broken.

There is no precedent for a legitimate Pope Emeritus. And His Holiness said so himself.

There are many precedents for primates whose concerns are more temporal than spiritual attempting to influence the role of the papacy.

We ought be thankful howver we do not live in "modern day Borgia times" but rather we live in tippy toppy technological modern times, where politicians are not poisoned, millions do not die of plague and grub in the dirt for food, our brothers and sisters of faith in God of the Islamic religions are not enemies, and naturally the road to Jerusalem is safe and we are all going to live happily ever after.

one of a series of regimental flags, this features the colours of el seu de Urgell i Andorra in quarters.
one of a series of regimental flags, this features the colours of el seu de Urgell i Andorra in quarters.

author by peterpublication date Tue Feb 08, 2005 18:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I don't think most rational people wont lose any sleep over what happens. Must say though that a person in the Popes current state is incapable of doing almost any job!
Its a sad spectacle seeing a tired dying old man wheeled out in front of the cameras to mutter a few phrases every so often...

author by iosaf -O as IF- sofiapublication date Tue Feb 08, 2005 20:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Giovanni Battista Re, is as of 2000 prefect of the congregation of Bishops, and president of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. He was chosen by Pope JP 2 the Roman Pontiff as pecial papal envoy to the celebrations of 750th anniversary of the consecration of the patriarchal basilica of St. Francis in Assisi, Italy, May 23, 2004.

The primate has called Solano's suggestions that the Roman Pontiff might retire "in bad taste". This marks a difference in opinion between the congregation of bishops of the RC church by one of those entrusted with inter-denominational relations and the current secretary of state of the "secular" Vatican Mr Solano.
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i apologise to readers of "the Sunday papers" who over the last years have got used to an occasional series of slightly tongue in cheek "reviews and previews" which have brought us through sometimes scatalogical mediations on "the war in babalon", "the coup d'etats", "the world leadership" and always with a blop of Spanish interest. So thought for the grumbing readers, I'd let you know what happened in Spainish interest this last week.
Yesterday the ZP government offered some 800,000 "sin papales" an amnesty. And the consulate of Spain at
Marienstrasse 12
Kirkveld, Berne
Switzerland
was "occupied" by 3 mystery men who evaded the elite response unit and according to the Spanish spokesperson Angel Vazquez were trying to get into the safe.
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5522077
The attack class nuclear submarine of the Queen of Engurland "defensor fideles" HMS Sceptre docked by surprise at Gibraltar, was watched by the Spanish fleet and is now repaired and will sail into the mediterranean tomorrow morning which is Ash wednesday.
http://www.plus.es/codigo/noticias/ficha_noticia.asp?id=450185

The culture of secrecy, power and unthinking "following orders" which has tarnished the church of Rome allowed new "religious prelatures" to emerge in the last century whose founders abused children systematically, and assisted the enemies of civilisation consistently. For many of you in modern Ireland it is un-important who "heads" the Vatican, who appoints "library man one" and "rule book one" and "chat to the muslims one" and "tell Pressie Bush to make love not war" and so on. You are used to, "too used to" institutions of power which are temporal and not spiritual.

The Church of Primates has this week disallowed those of RC faith from entering churches wearing a "rainbow" sash as it denotes "homosexuality" proscribing such as a sin. Sexuality may not be a sin, it is a gift of God.
Sexual acts may. ¿are we really to believe that God in his wisdom is to be represented by such silk?

The Church of Primates have now issued new rules on "annulment" of marriage.
Apparantly too many annulments were being given.

The Church of Primates seems intent on "business as usual", seemingly unaware that the rules have been broken, and the bluff has been called. There are billions starving, without vaccines, condemned to infant mortality, there are millions of women in the richer country who faced with the choices they have would rather abort than have their children. The blood of the martyrs is the blood of red silk.

"there might be something new in this after all..."

author by "on the ashes of angels"publication date Wed Feb 09, 2005 14:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

American born, Jesuit educated
Cardinal James Stafford,
current Major Penitentiary of the Apostolic Penitentiary, and former President of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, and chosen by HH JP2 to lead ecumenical talks with the Lutheran communion has today rubbed the ashes on the foreheads of his fellow princes of the Roman Catholic Church in the absence of the Roman Pontiff.

author by u2publication date Wed Feb 09, 2005 15:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

has reported that he has visited the Pontiff in hospital and he is well.
The Vicar General is one of the key officers listed in the article above.
The secretary of state is not.

As usual the media have for the most part been most mistaken in the allocation of "numbers". Describing Cardinal Sodano as "number 2" is a very grave error not only for his sake, which we must reflect on this day of humilty, but also for all those who wish for peace and justice within and without the RC church.

Cardinal Ratzinger is a "number 2" too.
Cardinal Stafford is a "number 2" too.
Cardinal Ruini is a "number 2" as well.
The Abbot generals of the monastic orders of rule as well may be considered "number 2" too.

So it would be helpful if the Irish independent and all media organs interested in cardinals reflected that there is only one "number 1" and all others are equal just entrusted with special responsibilities for matters of varying issues some doctrinal, some ecumenical, some pastoral, some historical, some political, some diplomatic.

Here endeth the lesson.
passeth the plate.
The ways of catholickisme be it Roman or other are mysterious, arcane, full of bells, smells and number Twos.

author by Joaquin Navarro-Valls - Papal spokesman (italian - spanish - english)publication date Thu Feb 10, 2005 15:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The laryngo-tracheitis which motivated the urgent hospitalisation of the Holy Father, has been cured,"

"The improvement of his general condition is progressing favourably. In the last two days, all the diagnostic checks, including a CAT scan, have allowed other pathologies to be excluded."

"the Pope will send a letter of thanks to all those who had helped him recover".

"the Pope will return home to the Holy See today Feb 10 2005 and rest before Easter"

author by xiiipublication date Thu Feb 24, 2005 00:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

HH JP 2 has marked February 23 by making history.
The Roman Pontiff addressed the bunch today by video conferening for the first time in the 25 years since he got the job (according to the rules as they were before he tightened the bolts - see above article for details).

Yesterday, the numero uno, man in white, familiar spokesperson for the sort of God who speaks about peace and love and doesn't like loads of stuff, published yet another book. Cardinal Joe Ratzinger did the booklaunch and there wasn't a glass of wine or ferrere rocher in evidence @ all.

HH JP 2 is worried about marriage, not the Charles of Cymru and Camilla type marriage that distracted everyone from his bad bout of flu', but rather the peter mandelson & north korean fashion designer type marriages.

He's also had a go at Descartes. If you're interested buy the book through amazon.com
today in his video conference, the Roman Pontiff reminded everyone (including the Angel of the Lord George Bush junior) that ego gets in the way of Love. As Freud once wrote, a healthy ego forgets itself and doesn't need to keep reminding everyone about the number 43, even to the extent of sending the long suffering wife to visit USAF airwing 435 in Germany. (well Freud didn't write that, I did but you get the general picture).

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5557576

In other surprise developments, the Roman Catholic Church have upped their campaign against satanism, as have indeed the calvanist churches, which seems silly to most political activists who wouldn't know a psychic anomaly if it was on screen or in their mobile every day.

Well done Pope John Paul 2!
it's lovely to have you back.
olé.
We prefer you to the Angel of the Lord Mr Bush.

author by & againpublication date Thu Feb 24, 2005 13:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Vatican reports that there has been a relapse in the Roman Pontiff's health and he has returned to hospital as of this afternoon.

http://info.france2.fr/europe/8516181-fr.php

The Angel of the Lord George Bush has not so far offered prayers for the Roman Pontiff.

author by + * .:. @ € $% +publication date Fri Apr 01, 2005 01:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The "last rites" are one of the seven sacrements or rituals of dogma which the Roman Catholic church deem to be apostolic, and are normally given to persons who are thought to be dying.
If the roman pontiff is dying, as indeed are we all, say it again, if the roman pontiff dies, then the rules for his succession are clearly published according to GNU, copyleft and creative commons above.
That means there in more supercomputers than either Kasparov or Fischer could play in a lifetime.
It also means, if God ever took SETI into consideration, he's got the message.

Please take this into consideration if you are considering the high risk flutter on the next pope.

You have been warned.
no fluttering.
no canvassing.
no hinting.
this is much more important than 99% of you @%€+*ers could guess.

Related Link: http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5645097&cKey=1112306717000
author by R. Isiblepublication date Fri Apr 01, 2005 05:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You #$#&(*7er !

author by .:.publication date Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

if the italian pope elected in 1978, John Paul 1 had lived, the diplomatic and priorities of his papacy
would not have had the effect globally of the "soviet block" John Paul 2nd who succeeded him in 1978.

if Pius XII had not condemned Italian socialists and excommunicated communists they would have won the 1948 election. And the immediate post Stroessner development of South America would have been different.

Q.E.D.

I'm not touching the future issues till there is elected _according to the rules_ a new Roman Pontiff.

author by iosaf .:. O as If + sofia - "having published the rules on copyleft"publication date Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

over the implementation of an immediate black out.

The former football reporting cardinal of Genoa who came back to the media recently to urge catholics not to read the Da Vinci Code has taken the lead in briefing journalists on everything he can think of at the Vatican.

he is disqualified.

In addition american cardinals are resisting the silence saying that the media is wonderful and sending emails and seeing your name in print is what the catholic church needs.

they are disqualified.

In addition one asian cardinal has suggested a future diplomatic position of the Holy See.

he is disqualified.

In addition an african bishop has said the western church is not ready for a black pope.

he is disqualified.

If the "princes of the church" carry on, there won't be many of the 117 who are still qualified to be deemed a legitimate pontiff.

author by not being the mass mediapublication date Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

(those cardinals who are too senior in age to form a part of the elective conclave)

on excommunication of those who break the rules-
on silence to the mass media-
on the absence of pacts between the factions-
on the role of the laeity-
on the role of senior cardinals-

81. The Cardinal electors shall further abstain from any form of pact, agreement, promise or other commitment of any kind which could oblige them to give or deny their vote to a person or persons. If this were in fact done, even under oath, I decree that such a commitment shall be null and void and that no one shall be bound to observe it; and I hereby impose the penalty of excommunication latae sententiae upon those who violate this prohibition. It is not my intention however to forbid, during the period in which the See is vacant, the exchange of views concerning the election.

82. I likewise forbid the Cardinals before the election to enter into any stipulations, committing themselves of common accord to a certain course of action should one of them be elevated to the Pontificate. These promises too, should any in fact be made, even under oath, I also declare null and void.

83. With the same insistence shown by my Predecessors, I earnestly exhort the Cardinal electors not to allow themselves to be guided, in choosing the Pope, by friendship or aversion, or to be influenced by favour or personal relationships towards anyone, or to be constrained by the interference of persons in authority or by pressure groups, by the suggestions of the mass media, or by force, fear or the pursuit of popularity. Rather, having before their eyes solely the glory of God and the good of the Church, and having prayed for divine assistance, they shall give their vote to the person, even outside the College of Cardinals, who in their judgment is most suited to govern the universal Church in a fruitful and beneficial way.

84. During the vacancy of the Apostolic See, and above all during the time of the election of the Successor of Peter, the Church is united in a very special way with her Pastors and particularly with the Cardinal electors of the Supreme Pontiff, and she asks God to grant her a new Pope as a gift of his goodness and providence. Indeed, following the example of the first Christian community spoken of in the Acts of the Apostles (cf. 1:14), the universal Church, spiritually united with Mary, the Mother of Jesus, should persevere with one heart in prayer; thus the election of the new Pope will not be something unconnected with the People of God and concerning the College of electors alone, but will be in a certain sense an act of the whole Church. I therefore lay down that in all cities and other places, at least the more important ones, as soon as news is received of the vacancy of the Apostolic See and, in particular, of the death of the Pope, and following the celebration of his solemn funeral rites, humble and persevering prayers are to be offered to the Lord (cf. Mt 21:22; Mk 11:24), that he may enlighten the electors and make them so likeminded in their task that a speedy, harmonious and fruitful election may take place, as the salvation of souls and the good of the whole People of God demand.

85. In a most earnest and heartfelt way I recommend this prayer to the venerable Cardinals who, by reason of age, no longer enjoy the right to take part in the election of the Supreme Pontiff. By virtue of the singular bond with the Apostolic See which the Cardinalate represents, let them lead the prayer of the People of God, whether gathered in the Patriarchal Basilicas of the city of Rome or in places of worship in other particular Churches, fervently imploring the assistance of Almighty God and the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit for the Cardinal electors, especially at the time of the election itself. They will thereby participate in an effective and real way in the difficult task of providing a Pastor for the universal Church.

author by Uriel.publication date Wed Apr 06, 2005 21:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

unless he can sastify the laeity of the RC church that the accusations laid against him the global mass media today are false and indeed support his historical assertions made last month with written evidence.

+ pass it on .:.

no war - no red dragons - no lies - no pacts - we don't forget
no war - no red dragons - no lies - no pacts - we don't forget

Related Link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20709-1556818,00.html
author by Rapheal .:. + @ xxiiipublication date Fri Apr 08, 2005 20:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

30. No one is permitted to use any means whatsoever in order to photograph or film the Supreme Pontiff either on his sickbed or after death, or to record his words for subsequent reproduction. If after the Pope's death anyone should wish to take photographs of him for documentary purposes, he must ask permission from the Cardinal Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church, who will not however permit the taking of photographs of the Supreme Pontiff except attired in pontifical vestments.

To the point that the body of Karol Wotyla was defiled continously for several days, no attempt was made to stop mobile telephone pictures being taken of the deceased Roman Pontiff.
In addition his wish to be lie in state for all pilgrims of good faith "were over-ridden".
200 world leaders saw his coffin go into the niche and several million go home, the same day thousands died of poverty, of desease, and lack of water and food, and even some from terrorist killing (thinking they were fighting the devil bless 'em).

As commentators throughout Europe have remarked in their commercial newspapers today, it was almost as if some people couldn't wait to see the end of poor old Karol after all.

The next pope has quite a challenge doesn't he?
bringing back the church & the faithful to the message of the Christ. which will be more difficult?



http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_22021996_universi-dominici-gregis_en.html

Related Link: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_22021996_universi-dominici-gre
author by colompublication date Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ratzinger is presently felt to be a "lead front runner" for the next pope, who as everyone knows will get the title "black pope".
Even though the 78 year old has garnered enemies within and without the church for his approach which is more "paul vi" than "john xxiii". Indeed attention is being brought to his childhood membership of the Hitler Youth again.
The "paul" component of the "JP" papacy was meant to symbolise a continuation of that mission (thus the hardline on reproduction) and the "john" component was a continuation of the "john 23" which meant the search for ecumenism, acceptance of the judaic basis of the text, and opening the decision making.

The Holy See is being swept, for all electronic signatures and will be placed in a shield during the conclave. Oh very high tech, but basically this means, if you've got a mobile, it'll pop. In fact you're carrying an eavesdropping device you might just fry your internal organs by entering the field = don't.

On the other side of "authority" attention is returning to those who were "silenced" during the JP2 papacy, including the theologian Leonardo Boff, who has just taken to the media again.
His interview with the Spanish daily El Pais is being syndicated throughout Latin america.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=277421&tabla=notas
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Heroes/Leonardo_Boff.html
and most recently catholic churchgoers have rejected the bishop of Basel’s decision to dismiss their parish priest in the first case of its kind in Switzerland.

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=10&si=1375681&issue_id=12328
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=106&sid=5681396&cKey=1113381099000

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