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category dublin | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Thursday October 14, 2004 16:27author by Akrasia Report this post to the editors

This is a call for meaningfull debate amongst the left in Ireland regarding anti fascist campaigning in Ireland

While I was not in attendance, there have been various reports in the RTE media claiming that a crowd of 'violent thugs' assaulted Justin Barrett before he spoke at the recent UCD debate. Allegations include that individuals were kicking him in the head and that his life was threatened.
There were also reports that an individual other than Justin Barrett was beaten until he lost consciousness (after falling down some stairs).

These allegations, unanswered, can be extremely damaging to the anti-fascist movement, especially as it is easily claimed that there is inherent hypocrisy by those who claim to defend freedom to express an opinion, if they physically attack someone for expressing his views (however disgusting they may be)

The Group, Residents against racism, was mentioned by name in on the liveline show (by Justin himself) and by implication, linked to the alleged violence that took place. Indymedia was also named as a place where violent individuals congregate and plot these kinds of incidents.

We need to have a proper debate about how we in the Global justice movement feel about silencing fascists by whatever means necessary. Should we opt to fight according to the principles we advocate, or is there a need for pragmatism in preventing such individuals from gathering support? It is also important that we ask if such tactics might give Justin Barrett more press and public sympathy than he would otherwise receive and if in fact violence against these people is not counter productive for a variety of reasons.

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
 1   The truth about last night's debate     Peter    Thu Oct 14, 2004 16:40 
 2   Re Aine Ni chonaill     Me    Thu Oct 14, 2004 16:49 
 3   Re: I resent Irish people...     Michael Hennigan    Thu Oct 14, 2004 17:16 
 4   AFA Cowards     Tony    Thu Oct 14, 2004 17:45 
 5   Look...     annon    Thu Oct 14, 2004 17:59 
 6   don't cry wolfie Justin.     tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk    Thu Oct 14, 2004 18:11 
 7   ...     Acid    Thu Oct 14, 2004 18:19 
 8   tactics     hs    Thu Oct 14, 2004 19:27 
 9   justin's friends, you tell me.     hs    Thu Oct 14, 2004 19:39 
 10   AFA Statement regarding Justin Barrett debate at UCD on 13th October 2004     Tom Wintringham    Thu Oct 14, 2004 19:43 
 11   Freedom of Speech     Theo    Thu Oct 14, 2004 20:36 
 12   Out of sight out of mind theo?     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 20:54 
 13   ucd speech     Green    Thu Oct 14, 2004 20:59 
 14   A little background on Forza Nouva (justin's allies)     hs    Thu Oct 14, 2004 21:04 
 15   'member of the public'     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 21:07 
 16   they made him a martyr to his cause...that's the worst possible outcome     Theo    Thu Oct 14, 2004 21:15 
 17   Mirror on Justin Barrett     hs    Thu Oct 14, 2004 21:21 
 18   So you agree with me theo?     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 21:23 
 19   Hypocrisy     historian    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:03 
 20   Huh     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:13 
 21   AFA     Tony    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:15 
 22   1st time huh 2nd time duh     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:22 
 23   This is not the Weimer Republic...get your facts straight!     Theo    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:30 
 24   Indeed     historian    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:42 
 25   1st time huh 2nd time duh 3rd time???     George    Thu Oct 14, 2004 22:55 
 26   Try reading a little, i promise it wont hurt.     Theo    Thu Oct 14, 2004 23:10 
 27   for gods sake     Lina    Fri Oct 15, 2004 07:51 
 28   agreed     agreed    Fri Oct 15, 2004 09:52 
 29   Against all totalitarianism, or just the fascist kind?     Michael    Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:42 
 30   Michael     historian    Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:54 
 31   ah jaysus shut up will ya?     howdy    Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:38 
 32   Brendan pull your finger out and go to History     Theo    Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:45 
 33   Deny all extremists the chance to speak!     Moderate    Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:00 
 34   Debate     historian    Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:01 
 35   Of all the events to disrupt... a debate?     Michael    Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:22 
 36   rivoting stuff     .    Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:51 
 37   Animal Farm     Paul Moloney    Fri Oct 15, 2004 13:08 
 38   Seven million Ukrainians!     jeff    Fri Oct 15, 2004 13:27 
 39   Germany's NPD     Michael Hennigan    Fri Oct 15, 2004 13:42 
 40   This old bugbear...     veteran    Fri Oct 15, 2004 14:44 
 41   AFA     thoughtful    Fri Oct 15, 2004 14:48 
 42   If some rich old guy wanted to give me a million quid     jeff    Fri Oct 15, 2004 14:51 
 43   AFA     Voice of Reason    Fri Oct 15, 2004 15:19 
 44   And another thing     jeff    Fri Oct 15, 2004 15:37 
 45   Disgraceful statement from Scully     Anti Nazi    Fri Oct 15, 2004 15:46 
 46   Communist=Fascist     Moderate    Fri Oct 15, 2004 15:49 
 47   "Thoughtful", Moderate, Voice of Reason     AFA Member    Fri Oct 15, 2004 16:46 
 48   Silly AFA     Oisín    Fri Oct 15, 2004 17:12 
 49   Oisin     AFA Member    Fri Oct 15, 2004 17:20 
 50   Who gave you the right to silence others?     veteran    Fri Oct 15, 2004 17:32 
 51   drs     AFA Member    Fri Oct 15, 2004 17:34 
 52   Why did Justin change his surname from "Slavin" to Barret?     bemused    Fri Oct 15, 2004 20:11 
 53   to afa member     hs    Fri Oct 15, 2004 20:37 
 54   Barret 1, AFA 0     Observer    Fri Oct 15, 2004 22:49 
 55   clueless liberals     anarchist    Sat Oct 16, 2004 02:04 
 56   Middle Class Liberal Toss     afa supporter    Sat Oct 16, 2004 04:26 
 57   RE:AFA suportter     FED up with AFA arrogance    Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:02 
 58   Myths     George    Sat Oct 16, 2004 13:01 
 59   Get over yourself George     Theo    Sat Oct 16, 2004 13:38 
 60   I hazard to write...     .:. libertarian    Sat Oct 16, 2004 14:03 
 61   thats funny...     ...    Sat Oct 16, 2004 14:07 
 62   Point of Information!     L and H Drop Out    Sat Oct 16, 2004 18:24 
 63   You think I'm a halfwit?     veteran    Sun Oct 17, 2004 00:07 
 64   Well done...     oldby    Sun Oct 17, 2004 14:46 
 65   Freedom of speach     ironboundjonny    Sun Oct 17, 2004 16:15 
 66   A Man had a brick thrown through his window and his house daubed in racist graffiti.     gnjngjnjn    Sun Oct 17, 2004 16:29 
 67   Sickening     L and H Drop Out    Sun Oct 17, 2004 16:37 
 68   Lets get this straight     oldby    Sun Oct 17, 2004 18:53 
 69   No platform and are workers racist?     Timothy    Mon Oct 18, 2004 02:57 
 70   Wake up.     veteran    Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:38 
 71   Well done Homer     Theo    Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:10 
 72   stating the obvious     gareth    Mon Oct 18, 2004 14:20 
 73   It is self defence!     Anti Nazi    Mon Oct 18, 2004 15:27 
 74   Stormfront     historian    Mon Oct 18, 2004 16:15 
 75   He did!     Anti Nazi    Mon Oct 18, 2004 18:06 
 76   Justin Barret & Pauline Hanson     ian corcoran    Tue Oct 19, 2004 18:20 
 77   smash facism with organistation     Declan Gallagher    Wed Oct 20, 2004 15:50 
 78   Declan     Anti-fa    Wed Oct 20, 2004 15:55 
 79   anybiody see a likeness     FF    Wed Oct 20, 2004 16:12 
 80   Hold on..     veteran    Wed Oct 20, 2004 20:25 
 81   Veteran at what?     Anti-fa    Wed Oct 20, 2004 21:50 
 82   Dancing Man     Tony    Thu Oct 21, 2004 00:00 
 83   Unapologetic No Platformist     Luo Gang    Thu Oct 21, 2004 20:44 
 84   >     Tony    Thu Oct 21, 2004 21:06 
 85   I'd ask that certain things be moderated here...     veteran    Fri Oct 22, 2004 14:50 
 86   Declan     Voice of Reason    Fri Oct 22, 2004 14:56 
 87   from ucdsu.net     student    Fri Oct 22, 2004 16:10 
 88   Scully sells out again     Porky    Fri Oct 22, 2004 16:57 
 89   Left try to soften up report in advance     UCD    Fri Oct 22, 2004 17:00 
 90   Inquiry should not go ahead     ucdsu member    Fri Oct 22, 2004 17:05 
 91   A Plague on Both     Luo Gang    Fri Oct 22, 2004 21:26 
 92   what an ego!!!!     Resess    Fri Oct 22, 2004 21:30 
 93   Gange     Tony    Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:15 
 94   Tony, Tony, you were happiest when you had hair.     long memory    Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:24 
 95   re: long mammary     Fhu    Sat Oct 23, 2004 17:02 
 96   Aryan, facist, nazi, racist etc etc YAWN.     Tony    Sat Oct 23, 2004 20:52 
 97   The whole point is:     M.K.    Fri Oct 29, 2004 13:50 
 98   and another thing...     M.K.    Fri Oct 29, 2004 13:59 
 99   Norway     observer    Fri Oct 29, 2004 14:00 
 100   Here     Observing    Fri Oct 29, 2004 14:13 
 101   Mmmmmm     Observer    Fri Oct 29, 2004 14:38 
 102   SWP sides with Barrett     Badman    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:13 
 103   Fucking priceless     Artur    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:17 
 104   A broad alliance?? !     evenbadderman    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:23 
 105   Fingallian     Getting sick of it now    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:24 
 106   Jesus !!     observer    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:49 
 107   Re: Fingallian/Historian/Whinger     Jo Take    Fri Oct 29, 2004 15:56 
 108   little amuses the the innocent     barry    Fri Oct 29, 2004 21:52 
 109   Observer?     Harry    Fri Oct 29, 2004 23:18 
 110   WHA ???????     Barry    Sat Oct 30, 2004 00:38 
 111   Constructive debate... anybody ????     barry    Sat Oct 30, 2004 03:27 
 112   Perspective please     Seriously fed-up    Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:58 
 113   re: barry     afa supporter    Sat Oct 30, 2004 19:49 
 114   Just abck from a much needed night out.     Barry    Sun Oct 31, 2004 05:37 


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