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Dublin - Event Notice
Thursday January 01 1970

Fahrenheit 9/11: Marxist Forum

category dublin | anti-war / imperialism | event notice author Tuesday July 20, 2004 22:50author by Síofra Ní Chonghaile - South City SWPauthor email southcityswp at yahoo dot co dot ukauthor phone 01 8722 682 Report this post to the editors

A discussion on the ideas raised in Michael Moore's new documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 takes place tomorrow (Wednesday 21 July) at 8pm upstairs in Chaplain's Bar, Hawkin's St (opposite the Screen Cinema).

Related Link: http://www.swp.ie
author by Michael Moore fanpublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 14:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Michael will be delighted. He did this movie to give the swp an opportunity to recruit!

author by Curiouspublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 14:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Who is doing the lead off?

author by Lokipublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 16:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They are plaguing cinema goers with leaflets.

author by Thorpublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The SY did the leaflet. Busy little spuppies. Pity they dont update their website, it was last updated on 8 May 2004.

author by Stephen Daedaluspublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Indymedia really amazes me at times. What's wrong if the SWP or the SP want to host debates about films, books, plays or whatever they want. Why don't others on the left get up off their arses and do something similar if they have a different opinion? The best hurler is always on the ditch!

author by Voice of Reasonpublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I don't want people giving me leaflets outside the cinema. Plenty of leftist types complained at the Evangilists outside The Passion of Christ and the SNP outside Braveheart. So leafleters, leave us alone!

author by Joepublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A conseqence of posting an event to indymedia is that others may choose to comment on it, horror of horrors they may even take the piss. The comments above are neither all that funny or constructive but apart from that all they do is serve to push the announcement of this event to the most prominent position of the 'View comments' option again and again. Were it not for these comments I'd never even have noticed the ad for the event so amusingly they are sort of helping out the SWP.

author by Stephen Daedaluspublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

OK, it is possible on Indymedia to take the piss of other organisations. But this should not be tolerated by the editors. I want to have serious discussion. I don't take kindly to muppets like "punter" putting up complete shit stirring stuff on Indymedia that only degrades the site further. I want to see a proper debate. Not a load of anonymous trolls and editors that are tolerant of them.

author by Joepublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 17:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

In that case Stephen you should probably get involved in the editoral process yourself. I think part of the reason stuff doesn''t get deleted is that there are no editors online with the time to do so at the time.

author by pat cpublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 18:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You have alreaddy had one comment on the CWM thread deleted for trolling. Your repost will likely go soon. Your comments are irrelevant to that thread and are trolling. You are in no position to lecture anyone else.

author by redjadepublication date Thu Jul 22, 2004 18:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"If you are a naive, uncommitted voter and wander into a theater, you aren't going to come away with a good impression of the president," Republican operative Joe Gaylord said. "It's a problem only if a lot of people see it."

Based on a record-breaking gross of $94 million through last weekend, theaters already have sold an estimated 12 million tickets to "Fahrenheit 9/11." A Gallup survey conducted July 8-11 said 8 percent of American adults had seen the film at that time, but that 18 percent still planned to see it at a theater and another 30 percent plan to see it on video

Related Link: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0722-01.htm
author by Nader Voterpublication date Thu Jul 22, 2004 18:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The film is having a wonderful effect on voters, and I'm happy to concede that Kerry is marginally less awful than Bush, but why is Moore actively supporting awful Democrats? First Wesley Clark and now Kerry!

I thought Moore's defence of the 2000 Nader camapign in "Stupid White Men" was compelling. It astonishes me to see him desert Nader for warmongers like Clark and Kerry. I read Eamonn McCann's writing in dispair about Michael's political degeneration in the current Hot Press and I agreed completely. it's a crying shame.

author by redjadepublication date Sat Jul 24, 2004 16:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

''A third of the voters are potentially non-Kerry supporters? That's the audience Moore is trying to reach, especially the 10% of persuadables.''

Related Link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/24/8218/63208
author by stephenpublication date Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"it astonishes me to see him desert Nader for warmongers like Clark and Kerry."

So you reckon Michael Moore could have swung the election for Nader?

author by "peace activist" Emily Reilly, - freedom firstpublication date Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Dear Michael Moore,

With all the political caterwauling that You have done in the last few years
it is NO WONDER that voters came out in DROVES to vote for bush
But we must recognize that Mr. Moore has droned on and on on and on on and on on and on on and on, until even the liberal democrats where driven to vote democrats out of office. the voter backlash from anything associated with the democratic party was purely astounding. As demonstrated by this election. and I am sure that your obsessive droning is one of the major factors in the exodus of voters from OUR cause. Mr. Moore we may never know the damage you have done. but rest assured WE WILL NOT FORGET what you have done to this election and to the DNC

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