Today in Palestine the 26th of march

by David C. Fri Mar 26, 2004 20:53

23 CHILLING QUOTES BY ZIONISTS ABOUT ZIONISM:

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies ­not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."
Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"....
Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
Israeli Prime Minister Shamir (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."
Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed."
Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war."
Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
David Ben Gurion (first Israeli PM, quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

10. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."
Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

11. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . .. I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

12. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours."
Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

13. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return... The old will die and the young will forget."
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

14. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."
David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

15. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

16. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

17. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'"
Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

18. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters"
Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

19. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary."
Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

20. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

21. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

22. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment...Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."
Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

23. "I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the Palestinian child’s existence infers that generations will go on, but the man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956).... I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do."
Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, in an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956

by Northern Eye Fri Mar 26, 2004 23:07

Well Avi me lad, what have ye got to say this time?

by avi H. Sat Mar 27, 2004 09:00

to take a variety of quotes from a variety of sources, all out of context with no contextual explanation whatsoever and assemble them for any purpose you want, to give any impression you want. Moreover, the last quote here is a fabrication.

by Northern Eye Sat Mar 27, 2004 16:30

So what sort of context could they be acceptable in?

by David C. Sat Mar 27, 2004 22:09

...Avi may be right about that last quote - I can find no original source for it. The Israelis are absolute masters at manipulating information, however, so its difficult to know if someone made it up or if the source has been obscured. The arguments against its authenticity that I could find were pretty lame, but without a source it just isn't credible...

OK. Fair enough.

22 CHILLING QUOTES BY ZIONISTS ABOUT ZIONISM.

Like to take a shot at any of the others?

by kokomero Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:22

but there is little doubt that the Israelis regard the Palestinian woman and child as more dangerous than the man given the demographic time-bomb they represent for Zionists.

The manifestations of this are that the right of female Muslim Israeli citizen's to marry whom they wish has been severely restricted by a racist law imposed by Sharon the corrupt politician and war-criminal in what amounts to a fertility law used in an effort to curtail the growth of the Israeli Muslim population.

Allied with the death toll among Palestinian children through what amounts a policy of genocide by the Sharon government and their stormtroopers in the West Bank and Gaza, the Israelis seek to keep the Palestinian population in check both politically, physically and numerically.

The latest incidence was the killing of a six year old boy in his own home by the Israeli Occupation Forces on Saturday. Funnily enough they were there to arrest a suspect, strange that they can move in and arrest low-level people with impunity but at the same time "need" to kill political leaders who are not hiding from anybody and are unlikely to offer physical resistance such as Sheikh Yassin??

Of course there is little need to resort to outright murder of Palestinian children when the Israelis physically imprison them in camps under a starvation regieme with attendant problems of malutrition and infant mortality worthy of the worst third-world slums as reported by the UNHCR and Red-Cross since the beginning of the second intifada. For their trouble of course both the UN and the Red-Cross have been subjected to vilification by Sayanim in the worlds media for reporting the truth.

Zionists like Avi seem happy to have Muslims and Palestinians around as long as they can be labeled as terrorists, cockroaches or people of inferior education/culture/religion or other names befitting of untermenschen and it is worth noting that he didn't bother to try and deny the other quotes to this effect which are in the public domain.

It is highly likely that the Sharon "quote" which is quite outrageous in terms of its language (the underlying Zionist-expansionist thrust however appears consistent with the other quotes), is a deliberate plant on the web which gives Zionists and other excusers of genocidal Israeli policies an extra get out of jail free card when other excuses cannot be abused.

Those who intend to publish such material in future should at least google it before posting, in this case it would have immediately turned up this "quote" as a fraud.

Given the convenience of such material and the activities of intelligence in deception all such material should be regarded with deep suspicion. One of the greatest Israeli coups in terms of black-ops was after all the planting of relay transmitters near Tripoli by Mossad’s LAP (LohAma Psicologit—psychological warfare or disinformation section) which could be controlled by Israeli warships off the coast whose "terrorist" communications traffic led to the bombing of Tripoli in 1986 (http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/1099/9910022.html).

With this type of background and undoubted Israeli expertise in networking and security it would not be a surprise if many "arab-militant" websites with all manner of content were not part of the information war by Israeli intelligence and Zionist Sayanim where the dividing line between the two is often very blurred. N'est pas Avi???

Given this background this it is hardly surprising that the Palestinians choose not to accept being third-class citizens in their own country, and that the country is regarded as hostile by its neighbours.

by Ali H. Fri Jul 30, 2004 09:32

If I'm not mistaken Avi used this tactic or using a single quote to attempt to discredit an entire line of reasoning, possibly in relation to the same quote in the past 12 months. Anybody posting such material needs to check its veracity before posting it otherwise you give credibility to lying propagandists like Avi. The nature of this particular quote at the end of a list available on the net seems like a Zionist plant to me, i.e. it was specifically put there by people like AVi to enable corporate liars like Avi to do their dirty work, please dont give him and his kind any help.