Upcoming Events

Dublin | EU

no events match your query!

New Events

Dublin

no events posted in last week

Blog Feeds

Anti-Empire

Anti-Empire

offsite link The Wholesome Photo of the Month Thu May 09, 2024 11:01 | Anti-Empire

offsite link In 3 War Years Russia Will Have Spent $3... Thu May 09, 2024 02:17 | Anti-Empire

offsite link UK Sending Missiles to Be Fired Into Rus... Tue May 07, 2024 14:17 | Marko Marjanović

offsite link US Gives Weapons to Taiwan for Free, The... Fri May 03, 2024 03:55 | Anti-Empire

offsite link Russia Has 17 Percent More Defense Jobs ... Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:56 | Marko Marjanović

Anti-Empire >>

The Saker
A bird's eye view of the vineyard

offsite link Alternative Copy of thesaker.is site is available Thu May 25, 2023 14:38 | Ice-Saker-V6bKu3nz
Alternative site: https://thesaker.si/saker-a... Site was created using the downloads provided Regards Herb

offsite link The Saker blog is now frozen Tue Feb 28, 2023 23:55 | The Saker
Dear friends As I have previously announced, we are now “freezing” the blog.  We are also making archives of the blog available for free download in various formats (see below). 

offsite link What do you make of the Russia and China Partnership? Tue Feb 28, 2023 16:26 | The Saker
by Mr. Allen for the Saker blog Over the last few years, we hear leaders from both Russia and China pronouncing that they have formed a relationship where there are

offsite link Moveable Feast Cafe 2023/02/27 ? Open Thread Mon Feb 27, 2023 19:00 | cafe-uploader
2023/02/27 19:00:02Welcome to the ‘Moveable Feast Cafe’. The ‘Moveable Feast’ is an open thread where readers can post wide ranging observations, articles, rants, off topic and have animate discussions of

offsite link The stage is set for Hybrid World War III Mon Feb 27, 2023 15:50 | The Saker
Pepe Escobar for the Saker blog A powerful feeling rhythms your skin and drums up your soul as you?re immersed in a long walk under persistent snow flurries, pinpointed by

The Saker >>

Public Inquiry
Interested in maladministration. Estd. 2005

offsite link RTEs Sarah McInerney ? Fianna Fail supporter? Anthony

offsite link Joe Duffy is dishonest and untrustworthy Anthony

offsite link Robert Watt complaint: Time for decision by SIPO Anthony

offsite link RTE in breach of its own editorial principles Anthony

offsite link Waiting for SIPO Anthony

Public Inquiry >>

Voltaire Network
Voltaire, international edition

offsite link Netanyahu soon to appear before the US Congress? It will be decisive for the suc... Thu Jul 04, 2024 04:44 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N°93 Fri Jun 28, 2024 14:49 | en

offsite link Will Israel succeed in attacking Lebanon and pushing the United States to nuke I... Fri Jun 28, 2024 14:40 | en

offsite link Will Netanyahu launch tactical nuclear bombs (sic) against Hezbollah, with US su... Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:09 | en

offsite link Will Israel provoke a cataclysm?, by Thierry Meyssan Tue Jun 25, 2024 06:59 | en

Voltaire Network >>

Another Europe Is Possible – Report of a Meeting

category dublin | eu | opinion/analysis author Saturday January 03, 2004 14:40author by John Meehan Report this post to the editors

Personal report

On Saturday December 13 2003 a meeting with the title “Another Europe is Possible” took place in the Teachers’ Club, 36 Parnell Square, Dublin 1. Rory Hearne of “Globalise Resistance” and the Socialist Workers’ Party (SWP) issued invitations to the meeting.

Introductory Speeches were made by Barry Nevin (Chairperson of the SIPTU Civil Aviation Branch in Aer Rianta); Paul Dillon (President University College Dublin Students’ Union); Richard Boyd-Barrett (Irish Anti-War Movement and SWP); John Blisset (Rialto Community Worker).

This is a personal report by John Meehan. Other people who attended the event are welcome to add comments clarifications and corrections.

The room was crowded - I estimate the attendance at around 60-65.

The organisers collected contact details from everyone who attended, and have circulated an account of what took place. It has been placed on the Irish Indymedia site.

No attempt was made to go around the room and ask each person to identify themselves, and say what organisation(s) they belonged to (if any). Consequently, I can only make a rough guess about the political balance of the meeting.

A sizeable group of SWP members and supporters were present; in addition to that, activists who participate in the following groups and parties were present : Democracy and Public Services in Europe (DAPSE) ; Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC); Alliance for Choice (AFC); the Irish Social Forum (ISF); the Irish Anti-War Movement; the Labour Party; Sinn Féin; the Green Party; the Socialist Party. In many cases, the categories overlap.

Rory Hearne (Globalise Resistance, SWP) started the meeting.

The following proposals were mentioned :

  • Forming a co-ordinating group
  • Agreeing a calendar of events
  • Public Launch of the Alliance/Coalition

The first speaker was Barry Nevin, chairperson of the SIPTU Civil Aviation Branch in Aer Rianta.

He pointed out that, unlike CIÉ, Aer Rianta had not been a drain on taxpayers – it was a profitable company. The Government proposed to break it up into three parts based on individual airports – Dublin Shannon and Cork. Since 1998, the company has been a “PLC”, and the true owner is the Minister for Finance. New legislation means a worsening of conditions for employees of the company.

A debate is taking place on the building of a second terminal in Dublin Airport – big profits will be made by whoever is awarded the contract for building it. But private interests are not interested in running and maintaining the terminal – that does not produce a profit.

Ireland has the lowest airport charges in Europe; the budgets being proposed for the individual airports are too low to maintain existing standards.

A new word is being used : “de-merger” – this is only privatisation by any other name.

Barry concluded with a call for mobilisation against these Government privatisation proposals.

University College Dublin Students’ Union President Paul Dillon, who asked where Education was included in the draft European Union Constitution, followed him.

If it was included, that implied further privatisation of a public service, and we should oppose this.

He endorsed the proposal of the organisers to “spoil the party” the Irish Government was planning for the European Union Presidency.

On the Irish “model” or example for new member states : “God Help” the Eastern European newcomers if they follow the Celtic Tiger model.

Personally Paul was in favour of the European Project, - he felt that overall it had a positive impact – but there were serious problems with the undemocratic features of the European Union – unelected bodies had too much power; the European parliament was effectively “castrated”.

Richard Boyd-Barrett contested Bertie Ahern’s claim to be “anti-war”, and that the major Dublin march on February 15 last was somehow in support of Government policy.

This was a sign of the Government’s political weakness; after that march, the Government’s popularity ratings fell by 9%. Ahern is worried at the prospect of different strands coming together to oppose their policies.

The large scale of events in Prague and Seattle was stressed, as well as the Dublin campaign against the Bin Tax, and the large demonstrations in Ennis and Nenagh against threatened hospital closures.

It was necessary to build a coalition against Bush’s “corporate agenda”.

John Blisset, a community worker from Rialto, followed. He stressed the positive experience of being in Florence for the European Social Forum (ESF); we should base ourselves on the principles of the World Social Forum. We should tap into the resources of the ESF, and do the same thing in Ireland.

Tenants in Rialto had gone through an exhaustive process of community consultation about a flat complex in the area – but at the end of it, the Department of the Environment had rejected these proposals in favour of Public Private Partnership. It is clear that the state wants to remove existing tenants and repopulate with private occupants.

The chairperson, Rory Hearne, then repeated the proposals floated by the meeting’s organisers, and discussion began.

Ivana Bacik (Labour Party candidate in the European Elections of June 2004) asked who should we be targeting? While the European Union had some negative features, it also had some good points. The Government the Progressive Democrat/ Fianna Fáil Coalition - is using the “Bologna Process” as an excuse for its own right wing domestic agenda.

The draft European Union constitution contains good things as well as bad things.

Raymond Deane of the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC) spoke in favour an alliance. He highlighted an agreement between the European Union and various dictatorships around the Mediterranean, for example Tunisia. Economic favours are being offered – in exchange, these dictatorships collude with the European Union to restrict the free movement of people.

Brendan Young of Democracy and Public Services in Europe (DAPSE) summarised the threats to health Education and Culture contained in the draft European Union Constitution. At some stage, the Government will seek approval of this document in a referendum. A recent survey indicates that 73% of voters were favourable to European Union membership in Ireland, so we face a big “hearts and minds” issue here. We need to go beyond the existing anti-capitalist movement.

We should discuss how an “over-arching” campaign will be constructed.

Deirdre de Búrca, a Green Party councillor, responded directly to some of the points made by Ivana Bacik. We need to look, in detail at what the European Union Constitution says. Many social democratic and formerly left wing parties are “in denial” over the attacks on public services that are driven by the European Union.

Kieran Allen asked us to look at what kind of Europe we want. He suggested that the Boston/Berlin debate proposed by Mary Harney and others was fake. We should look at what we do during the Irish European Union presidency, and what we do after the six moth period was finished. The European Union Constitution referendum may not take place until after June 2004.

Mary-Lou McDonald (Sinn Féin Dublin candidate for the European Parliament in June 2004) said the new constitution was being promoted under two guises :

1. Simplicity
2. Efficiency

Concerning enlargement, we need to express solidarity with the smaller countries that are joining the Union. It was vitally important not to work with narrow racists and xenophobes, and we had to be careful about the language we use.

The Constitution – as it is worded now is unacceptable.

Owen McCormack (member of the Busworkers’ Union and the SWP) referred back to Barry Nevin’s description of the Aer Rianta workers’ struggle; he also detailed the involvement of the multi-national Connex in LUAS- this firm had recently lost a license in England to run part of the Railway Service because it failed to abide by safety laws. Cut-backs in pension provisions were a European wide issue.

Brendan Butler spoke of the need to accommodate unity and diversity on these issues. Concerning the European Union Constitution, he suggested we should first highlight the issues, the bad content in the draft Constitution – and then explain that because we are opposed to these provisions we are against it. We should not do it the other way around – now very few people know anything about it – a big educational job is ahead of us.

Andrew Blackmore (a representative of striking Oxigen workers in Dublin) spoke about how difficult it was to fight on the Union recognition issue. The workers had been tied up in rules and regulations. Picketers had been harassed and physically attacked. Oxigen is set to take over the emptying of the black bins as well. He appealed to householders to stop putting out the green bins.

Barry Finnegan (interim convenor of the Irish Social Forum) stressed the importance of an open dialogue process. He described the way the recent Irish Social Forum Co-operation and Solidarity Summit in University College Dublin was built. It worked well because of this process.

At meetings, everybody introduced himself or herself, said who they were, and so on. Tasks were organised by breaking up into smaller committees, which maximised efficiency. A committee did not control the process – everybody was empowered. Minutes were taken, distributed regularly by e-mail and via the Indymedia site, meetings were held at a regular time and place, and so on.

A similar structure was needed for this campaign.

A second Irish Social Forum Summit is planned for March or April on “How Does the European Union Constitution Affect You?”.

Richard Boyd-Barrett agreed with the tactical approach suggested by Brendan Butler regarding the European Union Constitution; we should base ourselves on a simple programme. We could “work on the structure later”, but he suggested the structure of the Irish Anti-War Movement was “as good a model” as any.

This exchange started a discussion, which brought significant political differences to the surface.

Rory Hearne’s minutes summarise the final decision in this way :

“It was agreed after some debate that the form of the organising committee should be that it is open to all participating organisations/movements and to individuals that are able to contribute. The following people/organisations were nominated. All nominations are subject to ratification by the relevant organisation and/or acceptance by the person in question.”

That is fair enough – we meet again on January 2 2004.

I share the views expressed by Barry Finnegan at this meeting. The organisational structure of the Irish Social Forum – and before that the Alliance for a No Vote during the 2001-2002 Abortion referendum campaign, as well as various forerunners –are the way forward.

There is one point raised during the discussion at this meeting that I wish to answer in a personal capacity.

In the campaigns listed above minutes were regularly produced which contained a record of decisions; this meant that a) people at subsequent meetings could refer directly to the record on what was decided; b) that people who could not attend each and every meeting were kept informed of what was happening; c) people knew who had volunteered to do a job, and whether (or not) it had been done, proved impractical, the person concerned had slipped up, whatever; d people knew ho had attended various meetings and how representative they were (or were not); e) because the meetings were, as far as possible, regularly held at the same time place and venue, it was easy to link up with the campaign.

Objections were raised to wide circulation of minutes with a list of the attendance; this was dubbed by some speakers as“witch-hunting” or a “McCarthyite” practice. There is no logic in these claims.

Circumstances do arise where individuals do not want the fact that they attend particular meetings to become public knowledge – in such cases arrangements can be made to protect an individual’s right to privacy – for example, where such publicity could endanger a person’s probationary period at work.

However, this does not arise in the vast majority of cases – for example, it is very well know, not least in the pages of the Socialist Workers’ Party (SWP) newspaper, that Bríd Smith is a member of this party – indeed I understand she is contesting the forthcoming local elections for her party, and the very best of luck to her.

An accurate attendance list tells the reader how varied the meeting(s) are [or, are not], and conveys a message that the campaign is (or is not) a front, or glove puppet, of another organisation. And that is a very important reason for including these details in circulated minutes.

I conclude this report with a document compiled by Des Derwin on how united campaigns should be structured – I believe it is a model that “Another Europe Is Possible” should follow.

--------------------------------------------------------

Campaigns: rules of engagement

Preamble

The left should consider the elaboration and promotion of a model modus operandi, along the lines below, for joint work by the left in single-issue and limited-issue campaigns, struggles, strikes and solidarity action, and movements (trade union and rank and file bodies, community groups, the women’s, gay, anti-war, ‘anti-globalisation’ and green movements, etc.). For convenience all this joint activity will be referred to as ‘campaigns’.

The principles underlying joint activity in ‘campaigns’ should be cooperation, activity, realism, unity on issues of common agreement, non-sectarianism, equality, democracy, independence of the ‘campaign’ and openness to all individuals who support the aims of the campaign.

It is understood that agreed guidelines like the following are no guarantee against the actions and inactions of organisations and individuals. Still less can prescriptions designed to avoid the negative produce a high degree of positive effort or commitment from any participant in a campaign.

Some of these, or similar and shortened, guidelines should be written into a Standing Orders where possible and appropriate. They are not comprehensive or watertight against various interpretations, and are not meant to be taken absolutely literally or to apply universally to the wide and complicated world of left politics. The guidelines are intended for ‘campaigns’ though they can be adapted for broad political formations, such as socialist alliances, or intermediary bodies, such as social forums or anti-capitalist leagues.

Procedure

United operations of organisations/parties (on major issues such as Nice or the War) should allow for a) representation of independents/non-members on the steering committee, and b) the active involvement of non-member activists on the issue: the coalition should have its own active organisation (a known place/mechanism to turn up and participate)*.
Campaigns etc. should be initiated by a properly circulated and broadcast call to a preliminary discussion meeting at which the general approach is up for a wide-ranging discussion. Only then should steps be made to getting convenors, committees and policy platforms.
No party should have a majority on the steering committee. Mee
tings should be held at a regular place and time (to avoid convention and suspension at the inclination of any one group).
The convenor should be an independent (for the same reason) or, where an independent is not available, preferably from none of the main organisations.
Minutes should be kept (of decisions especially) of steering committee meetings and ‘ruling’ general meetings and circulated soon afterwards (especially by e-mail).
In relation to local groups or new branches of a campaign or alliance those supporting the campaign will agree:
All public meetings will be called under the name of the campaign.
The details of all public meetings and initial local campaign meetings will be forwarded by the organisers to the steering committee (or the main campaign meeting**) a week in advance so that all the contacts available in an area can be notified and speakers may be provided if needed.
Speakers at public meetings of the campaign/alliance will reflect the broad make-up of the campaign and the various tendencies that support it.

Except in very big campaigns and bodies, local groups will probably not be needed in Dublin. The Dublin meeting can organise for the whole city or certainly the city centre and the nearer suburbs. The regular meeting of activists will be the ruling body (for a Dublin or other single town-based campaign) or (for a countrywide campaign) the steering committee in between regular delegate or general meetings.

Contact lists and attendance lists should be taken away by the secretary only. After meetings they should be given to the secretary. If the secretary is a member of a political group the lists must be available to all committee members and trusted activists. It should become established that party members departing unauthorised with the list will not be tolerated.

For single-issue, individual-membership, broad campaigns, trade union rank and file groups, community organisations, social movements, etc., the body should be clearly non party political and open to members of all political parties and of none. Spokespersons, speaking for the campaign, should not speak for their party at the same time. Where possible the officers, especially the convenor, the PRO, the secretary and the treasurer should be independents.

It should become established wisdom that under no circumstances will a political organisation use a campaign’s membership or attendance list to contact people for party events and recruitment purposes.

In limited-issue, individual-membership, broad campaigns, political bookstalls should be prohibited. In such campaigns we do not expect supporters to be revolutionary socialists. Political literature may be sold at the door. In certain campaigns a mixed table of political literature on the subject of the campaign or movement might be agreed.

* Initiatives based on (at first anyway) calling the left groups together are not excluded. There should be a place for true ‘united fronts’, the organisations uniting and acting through their own organisations.

** Bearing in mind that often the campaign is Dublin based or begun, and that the Dublin committee or regular Dublin meeting of activists often acts temporarily as a kind of ad hoc motherhouse.

Des Derwin
July 2003

author by Davidpublication date Sat Jan 03, 2004 14:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Did anybody ask him any questions regarding Aer Riantas involvement in the servicing of US warplanes in shannon and why Siptu has not organised anything to oppose this or support anti war protestors?

author by Did?publication date Sat Jan 03, 2004 18:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Did anyone ask Brendan Butler to retract his media condemnations of the Catholic Workers nonviolent disarmament action at Shannon and his repetition of government lies (rejected by a Garda press release) that a Garda was assaulted and hospitalised by the Catholic Workers?

10 months and counting Brendan! If you're personally not going to do anything to resist the war, you could take your knife out of the backs of those who are!

author by Pillopublication date Sat Jan 03, 2004 18:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Paul (Dillon - UCDSU Pres) was in favour of the European Project, - he felt that overall it had a positive impact – but there were serious problems with the undemocratic features of the European Union – unelected bodies had too much power; the European parliament was effectively “castrated”. "

This guy is only left wing inside of UCD. In the real world this guy is a rightwinger. He favours the Nice Treaty, and the 'European Project' ie the economic takeover by EU multinationals of the former state owned assets of Eastern Europe. The only thing that he critisises is that the Eu is a bit undemocratic. As far as Dillon is concerned if we tinkered a bit with the EU and gave more weight to the parliament then the EU would be the best thing since sliced bread. Of course you will never hear any utterance of a socialist Europe from Dillon, when it comes down to it Dillon will vote in favour of the new constitution, I guarantee it.

author by The truthpublication date Sat Jan 03, 2004 21:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Objections were raised to wide circulation of minutes with a list of the attendance; this was dubbed by some speakers as“witch-hunting” or a “McCarthyite” practice. There is no logic in these claims.

Circumstances do arise where individuals do not want the fact that they attend particular meetings to become public knowledge – in such cases arrangements can be made to protect an individual’s right to privacy – for example, where such publicity could endanger a person’s probationary period at work.

However, this does not arise in the vast majority of cases – for example, it is very well know, not least in the pages of the Socialist Workers’ Party (SWP) newspaper, that Bríd Smith is a member of this party – indeed I understand she is contesting the forthcoming local elections for her party, and the very best of luck to her."

Civil Servants are still expressidly forbibben from belonging to political parties under pain of instant dismissal John, or didn't you bother to check this out first. I should know, I'm a Civil Servant myself, and I'm quite well aware of the rules. Plus there are any many other jobs outside the Civil Service where people don't want their political affiliations revealed for quite legitimate fears of reprisals from their employers.

" An accurate attendance list tells the reader how varied the meeting(s) are [or, are not], and conveys a message that the campaign is (or is not) a front, or glove puppet, of another organisation. And that is a very important reason for including these details in circulated minutes."

It also allows the cops, especially the special branch and the secret service intelligence goons to keep tabs on who's who, and what they're doing, and to harass and intimidate them.

I await your reply with interest Mr Meehan.

author by The truthpublication date Sat Jan 03, 2004 21:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

After reading through your very long article (sometimes I wonder do people do this deliberately so that they hope that you don't spot a real humdinger), I spotted something in Des Derwin's article which needs replying to. It's the line: "Where possible the officers, especially the convenor, the PRO, the secretary and the treasurer should be independents." If that 'logic' were to be employed, probably 2/3 of people would be ineligible to go for any of the officer's posts. Is that what you really want? It doesn't sound like including people to me. Again perhaps I might just get a reply from you?

author by Angry Liberalpublication date Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Obviously you have a monopoly on defining what is left wing regarding europe and are an expert on both UCD and Paul Dillon.I might remind you that the only people who were against Nice were the greens(socialists?),the far left and the far right.Using your tenatative grip on logic that means that Justin Barrett is left wing and Proinsias De Rossa isn't.

author by John Meehanpublication date Sun Jan 04, 2004 14:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Nothing needs to be added to the title of this short comment.

author by apublication date Sun Jan 04, 2004 16:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

can anyone DETAIL what a socialist europe entails? application, logistics, constitution, economics, infrastructures, employment, environment etc. etc.

I need to hear coherent counterbalance

author by Magnetopublication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Whats really behind this series of attacks on John Meehan? Nobody has been outed in his reports of meetings which he regularly publishs on Indymedia. It is the openess which bothers some of those who are launching these attacks. Keep it up John.

The attack on Paul Dilon is excessively juvenile. Some 'socialists' are more concerned with scoring points rather than building a campaign. Maybe there are those who are still bitter that Paul won the election in UCD. They just cant abide democracy.

author by Bus driver - Dublin Buspublication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 14:07author address Clontarf Bus Garage, Dublin 3author phone Report this post to the editors

"Owen McCormack (member of the Busworkers’ Union and the SWP)." I assume you mean the National Bus & Railworkers Union John? I know that Owen McCormack is also a member of the Busworkers Action Group, but they're not actually a trade union.

author by pat cpublication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 16:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Photo / press event.

Democracy and Public Services in Europe

DAPSE

Central Bank at 09.30, Tue. January 6.

Proceeding to Dublin Castle.


Protest about presence in Dublin of

Pascal Lamy, the EU Trade Commissioner

‘Pascal you Rascal – hands off our schools’

Further information:

Brendan Young. 085 713 1903.

author by ec (1 of IMC IRL)publication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 20:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

and don't inflict it on other users of the site. Look at the latest comments page - y'all have hogged all the space for any conversation with a tedious sham-fight that only you all are interested in - do you all - especially Magneto - in the rw - shout over the top of every conversation you are part of - If this was a public house (which it is kind of) you'd be barred by now - go elsewhere please -

author by ec watcherpublication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 20:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

None of this infighting would have occured if the original author had bothered to check some of his inaccurate facts before posting, and if when challenged he didn't refuse to engage in debate. Nuff said.

author by ecpublication date Mon Jan 05, 2004 20:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

which is boring us all to death - is not thread sensitive in any way - in fact if magneto particularly had his way there would be little else on the site -

I'm thrilled to have my very own watcher btw

Number of comments per page
  
 
© 2001-2024 Independent Media Centre Ireland. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by Independent Media Centre Ireland. Disclaimer | Privacy