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Wednesday October 22, 2003 23:16

by filling in the gaps - readers and archivists of erron.

if you check the wonderful database of indymedia ireland for five days this year

you will get a blank.
"nothing happened". The site went off line, and far into the future, students will be forgiven were they to think that these days were uncommonly boring in the lives of early 21st century Irish cyberboys and cybergirls alike.

But things did happen:

Two "important prisoners" were released.
Joe and Clare.
They were the first "reds" to be imprisoned in the Irish majority state this century. This of course compounded Ireland's international image as a third rate crypto fascist country.

The ISF occured, lots of eager and nice people met up and had a long shindig chat chat.

The IRA (the one we mostly grew up with that the northern unionists prefer to call PIRA) made a lengthy statement on "arms decomissioning".
This was not their first statement on such matters but generally Mr P.O'Neill that aged writer has been forthright and availed of the opportunities offered with today's open publishing system.

*** I _note_ that P. O'Neill has not published his last communiqué.

Mr Chomsky was selected as "pie" target number one for the year 2004, coming ahead of Monibiot, Moore and Adams.
You must express an opinion on this, and if you know anything about Chomsky's heart let us know, it would be a terrible thing if that half-wit stoner in Barcelona put the cream cake onto the face of the Father of Universal Grammar and then the man dropped dead from a coronary.

So- if you have info on the last few days-

ADD IT NOW IN THE COMMENTS.
(& that really goes for the ISF heads and of course Mr O Neill).

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first reds in prison!!!

by matt

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:38

How do you make out that Joe Higgins and Clare Daly are the first "reds" to be imprisoned in this state? Tens of thousands of Irish revolutionaries, a goodly proposrtion of them socialists of one variety or another have been imprisoned since the foundation of this state and many of them executed.

quick comment on isf

by pc

Thu Oct 23, 2003 16:15

the isf after the wef was cancelled ended up being much smaller then anticipated and ill admit it didn't achieve its wish of spread politics out to the joe soaps of this world but it did get a lot of people the usual suspects and a few others in the rooms together which doesn't happen that often and was a great sucess in that sense,

linking our view of neo-libralism with peoples every day problems with getting resources and things done for people rather then profit still hasn't been achieved and is a very difficult problem .... i didn't figure out how to that while sorta helping out with the isf...

First reds in jail in this state

by Des Derwin

Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:23

Michael O'Riordan was interned in the Curragh during the War. And lots of other reds, including my own father, who was there for two years and two months.

Behind the times

by Clever Dick

Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:33

Have people forgotten already that we entered a new century a few years back?
The original article says that they were 'the first "reds" to be imprisoned in the Irish majority state this century', ie the 21st Century NOT the 20th.

some people prefer to live in the past

by dickens

Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:45

it seems

even Clever Dicks definition they are still not the first 'reds'

by Kev

Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:49

in 2001 Non-payers in Cork were jailed, I don't know about the rest's political affiliations (if any), but Mick Barry is a member of the Socialist Party.

Does that mean comrade Barry gets this dubious honour?

Dear pissed off Matt go back and read the sentance through again.

by -

Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:19

here it is Cut and Pasted to make it easier:
"They were the first "reds" to be imprisoned in the Irish majority state this century".

Now you will see a time expression at the end of the sentance which uses the noun "century" determined by "this". That means Matt, the 21st century, I am living, working, playing, and meddling in the 21st century. I spent most of my young life be it in war or peace watching fucked up 20th century minds and bodies make a complete bollox of it, because they couldn't bring their political or social interpretative tools any further than "who won WW3?".

ok. They were not the first reds to be imprisoned in Ireland this century.

by not so clever dick - & where is the IRA statement?

Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:22

That honour goes to whomever was of Red political affiliation who and went to prison in Ireland first this century.
It would help for "concensus" if that Red, was seen as a representative of a "red" party, and it really would help if they went to prison for a "political matter" and not for dealing drugs, drunk driving, or shoplifting.

the last O' Neill thing openly published

by linking

Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:28

was in May.
this last weekend Indymedia ireland went off line, and the follow up has not been posted.
where is it?
what did it say?

P O'Neill

by random input

Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:59

The last P O'Neill statement was, if I undertsood correctly, a two paragraph job released just after Adams addressed the press (and before Trimble did) that basically said "we stand by what Gerry Adams says".

Does Gerry Adams still stand by them?

by not to be silenced on this one

Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:31

does he?

Take it down from the mast ...

by wolfie tone-deaf

Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:38

But we stand with Enright and Larkin,
With Daly and Sullivan bold,
We will break down the English connection,
And bring forth the nation you sold.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/easterrising/songs/rs_song09.shtml

http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/March19/18hist.html

witchcraft.

by oh yes. every single one.

Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:44

lots of it about.

Clarification

by P O'Neill

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:40

It is beyond the ability of the Republican Movement to clarify Iosafs statements.

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