CONSORTIUM FOLLOWS PENTAGON LEAD WITH NEW TERROR MARKET

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Friday August 08, 2003 17:13

by AAM

Inspired by the futures market in terror and war
that the Pentagon released
earlier this week (and then immediately yanked;
see
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Policy+Analysis+Market%22),
a consortium
of computer scientists, political scientists and
others announced today an
online futures market in White House behavior.

Contact: mailto:info@americanactionmarket.org
"The Pentagon felt that a market in terrorism
futures could predict
terrorism," said AAM spokesman Tad Hirsch, a
researcher at MIT's Media Lab.
"If the market is indeed such a powerful tool,
then it should be directed
at the most urgent question facing the world:
what will the White House do
next? And the second most urgent: what is it
doing right now?"

The site, http://www.AmericanActionMarket.org,
will offer various
categories of "futures" that users can bet on and
trade. Some of these have
easily verifiable outcomes:

* Who will be the next foreign leader to move
from the CIA payroll to
the White House "most wanted" list?

* What will be the next major White House lie to
break, and how will
the White House attempt to control it? Will the
attempt be
successful?

* Which corporation will be next to see its close
relationship to the
White House erupt in scandal?

(See
http://www.AmericanActionMarket.org/concept.htm
for more examples.)

In addition, AAM will also allow users to place
and trade longer-term
wagers on current or past scenarios that are in
the short term unverifiable
because of White House secrecy, and which will
only be proved or disproved
via impeachment hearings, journalistic
sleuth-work, etc. For example:

* Was Rumsfeld the first to suggest using the
attacks as pretext to
overthrow Saddam Hussein, as reported in the
press, or did the idea
first come from others?

* Was the invasion of Afghanistan planned from
the start as a
stepping-stone to an attack on Iraq?

* Was the President fully conscious of the lies
in his pre-war
speeches, or were the decisions to lie taken by
others? By whom?

* How important a long-term factor in the 2003
Iraq was Iraq's
expulsion of U.S. and British oil companies
from Iraq between
1972 and 1975?

(See
http://www.AmericanActionMarket.org/concept.htm
for more examples and
sources.)

As evidence is accumulated to prove or disprove a
particular future, its
market value will change; this change may serve
analysts as an indicator of
a scenario's likelihood, even if a final
resolution of the bet is never
achieved.

Just as a gambler buys chips at a casino, users
of the AAM system will use
a secure webpage to buy "Smart Dollars," which
they will then use for
trading. Users will be able to "cash out" at any
time by trading in their
"Smart Dollars" for real ones, with 10% going to
charity.

Hirsch acknowledges that the value of markets as
predictors is not certain,
but he insists it's worth trying. "If there's
even a small chance this will
help predict what the White House will do, it's
well worth the effort,
given the stakes."

AmericanActionMarket.org will be fully functional
and ready for bets on
October 1, the day the Pentagon's now-defunct
futures market was scheduled
to open.

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Comments (4 of 4)

It's not really news

by Seáinín

Fri Aug 08, 2003 17:32

Sounds like fun though. You could probably get most of those bets at Paddy Power anyway.

oh, this is news.

by insight

Fri Aug 08, 2003 21:48

It has been reported in quite a few papers.
It's worth reporting because it's further proof that there are no sane people in the Pentagon. Consider that the Pentagon mentality saw nothing wrong with setting up a betting ring where people could anonymously bet on terror crimes?

Critics of the idea pointed out the scope for abuse as terrorists could take part because the traders' identities would have been unknown.

Byron Dorgan, a Democratic senator from North Dakota, called the concept a "sick idea".

"I think this is unbelievably stupid," he told reporters. "It combines the worst of all our instincts. It is a tragic waste of taxpayers' money, it will be offensive to almost everyone. Can you imagine if another country set up a betting parlour so that people could go in ... and bet on the assassination of an American political figure, or the overthrow of this institution or that institution."

And they tried to justify this by comparing it to the stock market.

"Research indicates that markets are extremely efficient, effective and timely aggregators of dispersed and even hidden information,"

Well, the markets are not efficient for a start.
There's a whole load of insider trading, corruption, lies, false accounting, under and over confidence.
But most importantly, when the markets are relatively accurate is when there is no illegal trading going on and when information is freely available.

Terrorism on the other hand, does not have a regulatory body, and terrorists do not generally like to throw away the element of surprise.

How dumb are these folks at the Pentagon?

bets

by Paddy Power

Fri Aug 08, 2003 21:51

Sounds like fun though. You could probably get most of those bets at Paddy Power anyway.

- if you bet on a specific terrorist act at Paddy Power's and it happened, I think that when you go to collect your winnings there would be half a dozen armed cops there to meet you and ask you lots of questions.

war update:-

by gaming boy - V

Thu Apr 22, 2004 13:31

The enemy is trapped in the sacred land,
in the slough of it's despond.
from Megiddo to the Khyber.
Yesterday Monkey Bush suggested that as long as he is in the Oval Room, there will be no withdraw from Iraq.
= Any suggestions?

The first Saudi installations are now known to have been attacked.

Monkey Bush doesn't "have to" dice with fate, will someone make it clear?

and as we knew all along the pre-war Oil contracts are the legal ones.

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