Where has the Report of GWS Press Conference Gone?

by Cynic Thu Jun 19, 2003 18:31

Indymedia is run by men for men. Womens notices are promptly deleted.

by Aidan Thu Jun 19, 2003 19:21

when we're not busily opressing women we're worshiping anicent occult gods, enslaving the palestinian people, giving stakeknife a new idenity. yadda yadda yadda

by IMC Editorial Group - IMC Ireland Thu Jun 19, 2003 19:32

It is better to raise this by contacting the mailing lists, as the newswire should be kept for news items. You'll also get a quicker response, and avoid the silly comments about oppressing (whoever it is today) added by others.

Articles already published on other IMC newswires shouldn't be republished here. We adopt this approach because there are numerous organisations and individuals that try to dominate the network by abusing the open publishing network.

But with hindsight, this is a borderline case, as the connection to the Irish group was made (albeit in a single line, followed by the copied article). So it's not a typical case of the global spammers, I accept. I would not object to this article being 'unhidden' (now we have the gee whiz technology to do that in a flash) if any other editor wants to do so. (be they male or female)

(Daithi)

by what everrrrrrr Thu Jun 19, 2003 19:47

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by iosaf Thu Jun 19, 2003 22:07

i never knew we did those things, I am shocked & suffering a crises of peer identity, to think there I was happily spending a few minutes daily for over a year leaving bits of text with unknown persons on the internet thinking they were fairly representative of the Irish "left" and "yungpeople" and it turns out only after the skilled hackers in the flowing coats and shades have got Oscailt4 the grooviest operating system ever :-) together that IMC Ireland is in fact an occult God cult.

by Daithi Fri Jun 20, 2003 00:15

And you are our god....or at least our mascot

by Maggie - Global Women's Strike Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:48 womenstrike8m at server101 dot com

Point taken re mailing lists but we were asked to post the article by the women on the 'Invest in Caring Not Killing' anti-war picket in London because they were having trouble posting on UK indymedia. Regrading silly comments, I'm afraid we don't take any notice, they don't register. Can IMC eds re-post the headline with a link to the UK indymedia news report and our original one line comment?

Whatever about global spammers, there is a wider issue here as to whether indymedias are just re-producing the separatism of national boundaries and how it is possible to move forward beyond that. The women on the picket in London have been physically threatened by roving gangs of police and the man who has lived at that peace camp, singlehandedly maintaining it for so long, was seriously assaulted. We don't regard their lives and appeals for support for them as any less important for us in Ireland than the doings of any Irish group. It's quite unfortunate for the movement in Ireland if the major news outlet for it limits the internationalism of that movement.

We've already had responses from Derry, Galway and Clare from people wanting to support the picket and peace camp or take part in it. We would not have had this if the article was only posted on UK indymedia, which people may not look at with as much regularity. All are welcome to join the picket and/or the camp and give them support and a number of us from Ireland have done so several times already. If anyone wants to join or speak out and happens to be in London, the picket's on between 5.30 and 7pm, Wednesdays and Thursdays, directly opposite the Houses of parliament - with a very loud mic that can be heard inside parliament!

by Daithi Fri Jun 20, 2003 15:31

"there is a wider issue here as to whether indymedias are just re-producing the separatism of national boundaries and how it is possible to move forward beyond that"

it's not about boundaries; there is no bar to stories about non-Irish events. But when an organiser of a rally (for example, it didn't happen in this case by any stretch) posts a report to multiple IMC newswires, it pollutes the open space that Indymedia creates. Everyone thinks their event is the most important thing in the world ever, so we can't then allow crossposted notices for only the important events.

Ultimately "the movement", as you put it, is multiple movements, and it is essential not to allow a small handful of authors with computer access and time (think Hatrackman, Jon Chance, the Proudhoun stuff, Adrian More, etc etc) to monopolise it. They (and their adherents) would see their posts as being of such importance to the international movement that their articles simply must be distributed to every newswire - including the non-English language ones - putting a burden on new and underresourced IMCs. Which, thankfully, is not something the author of the GWS article did. As I have already said, the article that you're concerned about will be unhidden when another editor does so, for the reasons I gave.