Minister Eammon o Cuiv's Low Paid Employment Scheme for Social Welfare Receipents.

by Used2bSnowWhite Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:10

Engineer, in case you haven’t noticed it was the private sector i.e., the property developers and bankers that got us into the mess with Sean Dunne and Michael Fingleton running rings around the guardians and policy-makers of the Irish economy.
To paraphrase ECB chief, Trichet said, let the state deal with Anglo-Irish, the crucifix that every Irish taxpayer is nailed, to because of their wrecklessness.
There are plenty of public sector workers who earn a lot less than €30K so you can forget that generalisation and they didn’t cause the economic crisis - the private sector did. And you say that we currently owe the Germans a 5% premium? It’ll soon be a lot more than that considering the situation Ireland is in.
The likes of FAS (which should now be disbanded) & HSE is certainly in need of an overhaul but start from the top by getting rid of the likes of PD cohort, Mary Harney, leeching the health service, over-paying consultants and managers and genuflecting towards privatisation
The ordinary worker, both private and public, will be bled dry for decades for the damage done, the public sector gripe is simply a diversion.

by Engineer. Fri Sep 03, 2010 08:21

The French invented the Guillotine to deal with traitors who brought their country down.

What do the Irish pay the banks and the inneficient public service ?
Untold riches.

The Irish public sector are so out of touch with economic reality that they think that 30 grand a year is low pay.
"Beneath them" they said in their role as "Croke Park Economic Terrorists".

They forget that this money is borrowed from Germans who demand at least a 5 percent premium.
(Nobody trusts Ireland to pay the bills.)

The Private Sector will pick up the tab for the Public Sector.

by employment Thu Sep 02, 2010 21:44

that 14 euro extra on the 196 dole will be cut and if i was to travel to one of these schemes and have my lunch etc,that 14 euro would be long gone..if you are looking for work experience the ce schemes are great,but the way some of these ce schemes are run are in breach of most employment rules,if anybody bothered to take a look,instead of going that step further by legislating these schemes making it mandatory for anybody unemployed to do these ce schemes..

by Dachi o' Duali . - do- lally - party . Thu Sep 02, 2010 16:21

To the People of I-R-E-L-A-N-D , WE the keepers of the purse of rip off ireland

do solemly square up and admit that we have made a bollox of the yellow pack

economy ....Signed ( in english ) sleeveen o' cuave .

In your dreams .

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Thu Sep 02, 2010 16:19

and the main one is to invert these bucks' apple-cart. Great hours, lousy wages, but someone better try.

The policy is another pretence at activity, in place of taking action against the plonkers that sank the ship. It might also encourage us 'idle' layabouts to cross the water looking for a living. Always was their valve.
The job is to convince the young that they are entitled to a life and living on this underpopulated island(that depopulation being a consquence of centuries of 'economic' external management, now transferred with head-office trans-Atlantic).

None of these misers is 'in the real world'. They cushion and insulate themselves from it(and us) with lucre.Hence lucrative and gainful employment.
Same logic as tells us we should be developing an 'ethic of voluntarism' and 'care in the community' so we can provide our own social services at no expense to the tax-exempt corporations larding their off-shore nests. I met O'Cuiv in Galway(not my first collision)during the last referendum; he insisted he '..was only on an average salary...'. In other words, Gaeilge no Bearla, he still hasn't got enough. We need maximum, as well as minimum, wage rates, if it is to be reformed. And, sharing of the work. There are still plenty of people doing unhealthy hours.

by old codger - pensioner Thu Sep 02, 2010 15:50

O Cuive is the man that told the people of Rossport to complain to the licencing Authoroughty when he was told that IRMS security were recruiting mercenaries from the Balkans and that these people could be criminals as there is no State vetting on them.
He is also the brain that insists that signs in the Gaeitacht area's shoud be in Irish only.He cannot understand that a sign is to convey a message to any body that reads it not just Irish speakers. So it does not surprise me that this genious is in charge of a scheme that is designed to make slaves out of working people.
PENALISE THE UNEMPLOYED IS THE MANTRA OF FIANNA FAIL but make it look like you are doing them a favor by keeping them busy.
THERE ARE NO JOBS BECAUSE OF THEIR CORRUPTION .

by MINISTER NOT IN THE REAL WORLD Thu Sep 02, 2010 15:28

I would request the minister who made such a suggestion,try one week on the dole on one of these schemes(which is infamous for all the wrong reasons),they wont take the cuts themselves,but they will pinch the penny's off the poor..SHAME ON YOU MINSTER!

by Used2bSnowWhite Thu Sep 02, 2010 00:50

I couldn’t agree more with the above statements - the unions and the opposition parties in government should be viciously rebuking this initiative and defending the unemployed. The likes of Eamonn O’Cuiv thinks this will help target the so-called skivers living off the dole for years.
However the majority of the nearly 450,000 on the dole have been unemployed for just over six months. If the likes of Ivor Calley can get € 80,000 for fiddling the books, well why on earth should the unemployed be punished and singled out to complete community service which is generally seen as a penalty for those who break the law?
The likes of the local councils will be able to hire unskilled people for a lesser wage making plenty of profit acclerating the ‘race to the bottom’ and being able to justify poor services in the future. They will never catch the few skivers because they're way ahead of the game and they have been for years. You could only agree with this if you think Sean Fitzpatrick is going to show up in a pair of overalls to collect your rubbish bins in the morning. This scheme reeks of hypocrisy and tight-fistedness on the parts of the ‘concerned’ social partners and their conspirators.

by suspicious Wed Sep 01, 2010 17:58

This looks like a downgraded version of the Community Employment program. Even ten years ago the rate on that was about £20 above the dole. First they slashed the numbers of CE places, and now they are following through by introducing this downgraded program to do the same kind of work. And this for a paltry €15 over the dole, despite the increase in the cost of living that has taken place over the past ten year.
Community Employment being replaced?