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Think twice before giving that swine flu vaccine to your kids

category national | anti-capitalism | other press author Tuesday September 15, 2009 11:38author by SavedByFerrets Report this post to the editors

Baxter have secured part of the contract and to say the least, they have a rather dubious record in this field

Baxter have secured an immunity from liability from the Irish government in the event that their rushed to market swine flu vaccine has "unforseen" problems. Essentially If your kids die or get sick as a direct result of taking their vaccine then tough luck
Oops we accidentally mixed in live bird flu with our seasonal flu vaccine
Oops we accidentally mixed in live bird flu with our seasonal flu vaccine

Baxter have secured an immunity from liability from the Irish government in the event that their rushed to market swine flu vaccine has "unforseen" problems. Essentially If your kids die or get sick as a direct result of taking their vaccine then tough luck.

Swine flu vaccine has been at the centre of controversy in the US in the the past where one particular vaccine resulted in more deaths than the particular outbreak of swine flu itself.

Baxter in particular have been at the centre of several virus and vaccine related controversies recently. Including the "accidental" mixing of bird flu and normal flu samples in their International research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria., which they then shipped to subcontractors in the Czech republic, slovenia and germany for use in the mass production of normal seasonal flu vaccines which children and old people routinely take each year at the suggestion of their GP. Only the suspicious death of test ferrets in the lab of some diligent subcontractors in a Czech lab prevented a possible spreading of a mixed strain with a high potential for mutation into a human spread human flu / bird flu mix which could have been similar to the infamous spanish flu.

Thats the same Baxter that will be given a large chunk of the 1 billion euro+ budget Ireland may be spending on swine flu vaccine. Thats a lot of money on vaccines, considering Mary Harney's refusal to fund the recent vaccination program for young girls which cost a mere fraction of this.

Not to wax conspiratorial but considering the amounts of money at stake, It would not be surprising to find out that ethics might take second place to greed and corners might be cut in the rush to supply anti-viral drugs and vaccines to a huge media hyped fear pumped and panicked marketplace. And was it a complete coincidence that their H5N1 vaccine license is expected shortly? I truly hope so.

As an aside, in a related fact, one is also not inspired by the knowledge that a certain Donald Rumsfeld has a large stake in the company responsible for the rather lucrative anti viral drug tamiflu which we have already invested heavily in. But I digress. Check it out yourself .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1148

I studied and am a firm believer in science but in my opinion corporate for profit driven science needs to be closely monitored. My faith in vaccines is not what it used to be. Like most products of big pharma, I won't take them unless I consider it absolutely necessary. Personally I won't be taking this vaccine. I'll catch flu like everybody else from a door handle or a sneeze, monitor the severity of my symptoms and meanwhile get a proper check up to make sure I'm not one of the very small number of very unlucky people with an underlying condition or immune system overreaction which makes it more severe than a normal case of the flu ( which kills 35-40000 annually).

Scientists say the following people are particularly susceptible:

* people with:
- chronic lung disease,
- chronic heart disease,
- chronic kidney disease,
- chronic liver disease,
- chronic neurological disease (such as epilepsy, multiple sclerosis and Parkinson's disease)
- immunosuppression (whether caused by disease or treatment) and
- diabetes mellitus,
* patients who have had drug treatment for asthma within the past three years,
* pregnant women,
* people aged 65 years and older, and
* young children under five years old.

people in these higher-risk groups who catch swine flu should get antivirals and start taking them as soon as possible if they detect flu symptoms.

I suggest you get a thorough check up then gauge your own personal risk accordingly. But try to keep your response proportional to your particular health risk profile.

Considering this outbreak has proven to be no worse than a normal flu outbreak in terms of its effects, I wonder how many lives this huge investment of 1 billion euro on vaccines from Baxter and their corporate buddies will actually save and how many more lives it might save if invested elsewhere in the health system. (such as having a national program of thorough check ups for free for instance! )
and who ultimately profits from all the hype. No doubt Baxter stock holders will do quite nicely.

I do wonder if there are any prominent Baxter stockholders in Irish public life.
Please comment if you are aware of any thanks.

Full article by Christian Massey and some related background material (some of which is quite alarming!!) can be read at
http://www.wiseupjournal.com//?p=1099

And Those of you who thought the film "the constant gardener" could only be a work of fiction might be especially alarmed by this:
http://www.wiseupjournal.com//?p=1072

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Good article     Starstruck    Tue Sep 15, 2009 14:13 
   Russian Roulette.     Pete.    Tue Sep 15, 2009 16:27 
   another interesting link....     SavedByFerrets    Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:12 
   Some Other Views on Vaccination.     Dr Moreau    Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:09 
   Strange Sources For Article     NWO    Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:11 
   ok will this do instead?     SavedByFerrets    Wed Sep 16, 2009 13:58 
   Jeez!...Go easy on the strawmen willya?     SavedByFerrets    Wed Sep 16, 2009 14:40 
   Strawmen indeed     Dr Moreau    Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:55 
   Now you are just trolling and taking the piss Dr Moreaun     SavedByFerrets    Wed Sep 16, 2009 17:48 
 10   Questions And Disagreement Is Not Trolling     Dr Moreau    Wed Sep 16, 2009 18:08 
 11   all right all right. now can we just get back to discussing baxters etc     SavedByFerrets    Wed Sep 16, 2009 18:40 
 12   FDA approves new swine flu vaccine     Dr Moreau    Wed Sep 16, 2009 19:09 
 13   A doctor writes     nonmum    Thu Sep 17, 2009 00:01 
 14   don't need scientific evidence to expose baxters mishandling of vaccines and general dodgy behaviour     SavedByFerrets    Thu Sep 17, 2009 06:29 
 15   Kick 'em Out.     Bitten-By-Ferrets.    Thu Sep 17, 2009 08:13 
 16   bitten-by-ferrets.....     SavedByFerrets    Thu Sep 17, 2009 08:51 
 17   Society's Problem.     Bitten-By-Ferrets.    Thu Sep 17, 2009 09:00 
 18   bitten-by-ferret.....     SavedByFerrets    Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:25 
 19   Agree re nurses.     Dr Moreau    Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:33 
 20   Are you serious?     Damien    Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:18 
 21   Damien     Dr Moreau    Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:05 
 22   Health Workers?     Evil Capitalist.    Thu Sep 17, 2009 13:26 
 23   Dr Moreau's Island     Damien    Thu Sep 17, 2009 14:17 
 24   Damien     Dr Moreau    Thu Sep 17, 2009 14:26 
 25   Millions of deaths?     Damien    Thu Sep 17, 2009 19:43 
 26   some thoughts about the for profit pharaceutical industry     SavedByFerrets    Fri Sep 18, 2009 14:18 
 27   Public Funding     Dr Moreau    Fri Sep 18, 2009 14:34 
 28   happy to have you (partially) on board Moreau     SavedByFerrets    Fri Sep 18, 2009 15:22 
 29   WHO guidelines.     CHUD    Mon Sep 21, 2009 04:57 
 30   Some Things Never Change.     Pete.    Mon Sep 21, 2009 13:36 
 31   to pete....     SavedByFerrets    Mon Sep 21, 2009 16:08 
 32   Latest News     Pete.    Tue Sep 22, 2009 08:22 
 33   Pharma industry waste effects, Plant medicine     John    Tue Sep 22, 2009 22:58 
 34   Fair-Weather friends of Nature .     Cork Pharma Worker.    Wed Sep 23, 2009 08:09 
 35   Cork Pharma Worker     John    Wed Sep 23, 2009 23:26 
 36   Two Spots.     Pete.    Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:07 
 37   Yes Pete     John    Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:43 
 38   Your links Pete     John    Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:12 
 39   thanks for your kind comment john...     SavedByFerrets    Thu Sep 24, 2009 18:18 
 40   Government Indemnity     Tom    Fri Sep 25, 2009 21:39 
 41   Prisoners Got Drunk On Swine Flu Gel     Dr Moreau    Mon Sep 28, 2009 15:03 
 42   heh... funny DM     SavedByFerrets    Mon Sep 28, 2009 15:41 
 43   Alternatives     John    Wed Sep 30, 2009 00:18 
 44   RTE starts pushing the vaccine as expected     Jabba    Sat Oct 03, 2009 16:10 
 45   Accept flu jab -- or end up in jail possibly     Raymond    Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:38 
 46   A Passing Comment     Mr Man    Mon Oct 12, 2009 23:23 
 47   Immunity     John    Tue Oct 13, 2009 14:26 
 48   A Passing Comment     Mr Man    Tue Oct 13, 2009 22:55 
 49   personal choice - think twice     Catlady    Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:25 
 50   Physicians Urge Pregnant Women To Get H1N1 Vaccine, For Protection From Potential Deadly Threat     Dr Moreau    Mon Oct 19, 2009 16:14 
 51   "Us" and "Them"     Dr Montgomery    Tue Oct 20, 2009 07:10 
 52   Dr Montgomery     Dr Moreau    Tue Oct 20, 2009 16:04 
 53   Shannon Brownlee, democracy now guest questions vaccine efficacy..     SavedByFerrets    Wed Nov 04, 2009 16:11 
 54   How safe is the pig flu vaccine?     Marie O Connor    Fri Nov 13, 2009 20:34 
 55   One fact not highlighted in this thread..     SavedByFerrets    Thu Jan 21, 2010 15:16 
 56   Swine flu covered on prime time     Ferret    Thu Sep 22, 2011 22:01 
 57   Prime swines     Damien M    Fri Sep 23, 2011 23:43 
 58   World Health Organization (WHO) subject to investigation over pandemic flu scam     T    Tue Feb 18, 2014 22:09 
 59   Shock horror! But far too late.     Saved by ferrets    Wed Feb 19, 2014 00:45 
 60   link     ferret    Sat Aug 16, 2014 18:31 
 61   Tonight’s PBS Special Makes The Most Powerful Argument For Vaccines Yet     KM    Sat Sep 13, 2014 00:39 
 62   another link about this surprisingly little publicised incident     ferretwatch    Tue Jun 12, 2018 00:44 


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