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The Irish Holocaust

Why is Hidden History hiding ?

Last evening, Tuesday, 25th November, I flicked through the TV listings for something
worthwhile to watch. I came across a docudrama on RTE one at 10.15 pm. It was entitled, ‘DEATH OR CANADA’. I switched on RTE one at 10.15 and discovered that the docudrama was actually another of those terrible Hidden History programmes. I was surprised to see that it was Hidden History and though it unusual that it was not advertised as so on the TV listings. I immediately checked last Saturday’s Irish Times TV guide. The programme was listed on RTE at 10.15pm under the title DEATH OR CANADA, no mention of Hidden History. On the top of the page under the heading, TV CHOICE by David O Dwyer I see a review of the docudrama, it reads as follows.


Why is Hidden History hiding ?

Last evening, Tuesday, 25th November, I flicked through the TV listings for something
worthwhile to watch. I came across a docudrama on RTE one at 10.15 pm. It was entitled, ‘DEATH OR CANADA’. I switched on RTE one at 10.15 and discovered that the docudrama was actually another of those terrible Hidden History programmes. I was surprised to see that it was Hidden History and though it unusual that it was not advertised as so on the TV listings. I immediately checked last Saturday’s Irish Times TV guide. The programme was listed on RTE at 10.15pm under the title DEATH OR CANADA, no mention of Hidden History. On the top of the page under the heading, TV CHOICE by David O Dwyer I see a review of the docudrama, it reads as follows.

DOCUDRAMA DEATH OR CANADA RTE one, 10.15pm. A two-part docudrama from the markers of CROMWELL IN IRELAND about the emigration of Irish people to Canada during the Famine. Set in 1847, the darkest year of the famine, it follows true the story of a protestant family, John and Mary Willis and their five children, who abandoned their home in the west of Ireland and gambled everything on finding new lives in North America.

Is it my imagination or are they deliberately not mentioning Hidden History ? If you did not see Cromwell in Ireland I’m sure you might be wondering who the markers of this programme actually are. Would it not be simpler to just say from the markers of Hidden History’s ‘Cromwell in Ireland’. It appears to me that for some reason Hidden History is trying to hide, maybe escape the recent history of its own past. First we had Hidden History about the Pearson brothers and the so called ethnic cleansing of the mid lands during the Black and Tan War. See link below

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/84547

Pat Muldowney exposed that one as an sinister attempt to rearrange the facts given and take them out of context to present a picture of land grabbing and sectarian slaughter by the IRA.

They where at it again on Tuesday November 13th 2007, when Hidden History returned with another one of their historical concoctions. This one was entitled ’ figures of hate’. On this occasion they where spot on with their title. Make no mistake about it, William Martin Murphy is without doubt a figure of hate because of the brutal way he treated his employees during the 1913 Lock Out . After watching the programme it was obvious that the nature of this documentary was to try and convince Dubliners that maybe it was time to bury the hatchet and view him in a different light. See link below for Lock Out 1913.

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/85137

More recently we had the one about Cromwell who was not really such a bad bloke after all, even though he was responsible for the death of nearly a quarter of the Irish population.

Last nights HIDDEN HISTORY was part one of a two part programme about the Irish ‘Famine’ or to be more accurate, the Irish Holocaust. It is misleading to call it the Famine when tons of food such as beef, mutton, wheat oats etc, was actually been transported out of the country under British arm guard. See below for more detail on this.

So far the programme has skirted around the real reason why over a million people starved to death on the door step of the wealthiest empire in the world at that time. The programme implied that Ireland was a wonderful place to live in before the ‘Famine’. The viewer is told that ‘We have greatly increased access to land, people are getting access to small plots of land to build their cottages on, to raise their families on.
That’s nice considering that they originally owned all the land in the first place and where disposed by the butcher Cromwell. Secondly, we are told ‘ the availability of the potato , this wonder food, which feeds more people per acre than any other food stuff available in Ireland‘. The Irish people where solely dependant on the potato for their survival. Irish people did not eat the potato because it was a wonder food, they had no choice, they where forced into this position by their tyrannical masters who took everything away and left them with nothing else.

A DR Christine Kinealy of the University of Central Lancasire then tells us that ‘in 1800 Ireland had the fastest growing population of any country within Europe. A feature of that population growth was that Irish people where the healthiest, tallest, and most fertile people within Europe, so they where not people that fitted a traditional famine profile‘. We must have been the envy of all Europe until the blight came. The Irish people suffered long before the so called ‘Famine‘, they suffered their maximum during the ‘Famine‘, and continued to suffer after the ‘Famine’ purely because of British exploitation and domination.

Hidden History tells us that Protestants like the Willises have until recently been written out of history , but as modern historians have discovered, the ’Famine hit everyone with equal vigour. Hidden History centred the programme on the true story of this family, the willies. It tells us that ‘everyone suffered with equal vigour’. What a blatant misrepresentation of the truth. We see a reconstruction of the Willis family locking up house and setting out on a horse/cart for Limerick, for the propose of emigrating. They have sold all there earthly possessions to pay for the journey. As they travel along the road they see corpses lying in ditches and fields. Others in the process of dying, people with absolutely no hope or chance of survival. A great number of people did not have any earthly possessions to sell for a ticket to America. This is where the inequality lies, the poorest families who had been previously evicted where left on the side of the road with nothing. The story of the Willis is horrendous, they lost 4 of their five children because of disease on the coffin ship. Why does Hidden History seems to think that we should focus on this protestant family who lost 4 children on route to Canada ? Like all Hidden History docudramas there is an undercurrent downplaying the barbaric role of the British ruling class who regarded this country with pure contempt. Hidden History has a habit of watering down the cruelty and injustice that was dished out to Irish people. They distort facts and turn things around in the quest of letting the British off the hook and make them accountable for 800 years of murder and torture.

Hidden History had a micro biologist by the name of DR Donald Low tell us that ’Starvation was not the greatest killer in the Irish Famine. Hidden History’s historians agree that ‘disease caused far greater death’, so why bother call it a Famine ? Why not call it the great plague of 1847 ? Where dose Hidden History get it experts from ? We had to listen to a DR Patrick Fitzgerald as he threw in his pennies worth, he say’s
’With the Willis I think that it is very much a story of the Famine, parents in relation to their children were used to and had an expectation of a higher level of mortality, they expected children to die, to be honest if you had 6,7, 8 children it would be anticipated if you came from the lower echelons of Irish society in the mid to nineteenth century that a number of those would die’.
At last we get a little bit of balance, John Watters comes on and says ‘To look back and decide they where different times, they where different values, that you know eh ! Oh they had bigger familes and they expected to lose 2 or 3 children, bla bla bla bla.
Watters continues… ‘That is to apply to there lives the same logic which the British authorities applied and which caused the problem in the first place. We are applying the same racist perception to that history and we have been doing that and its time we stopped’.

I wont hold my breath to see what Hidden History has to say in part two next week, it will no doubt be more of the same, skirting around the real causes and avoiding any blame. The Irish Holocaust would be more suitable a title for the so called Famine. I have cut and pasted with full permission some more information on the Irish Holocaust. See below.

http://www.nga.ie/irish_holocaust.htm

THE (IRISH) HOLOCAUST*
Chris Fogarty, 21Dec07
Ireland's Holocaust of 1845-50 was one of history's greatest crimes. Its toll was well over five million innocents comprising the most gaelic, least anglified, of the people. Their bones are strewn in mass graves across Ireland. They are also along the routes fled by the desperate starvelings - the canal tow-paths and roads to Dublin, in and around England's cities especially Liverpool; also along the routes to and sites of Australian death camps, along the sea floor below the coffin-ship routes to Canada and the U.S. and along the shores of both and of the St. Lawrence river. Untold thousands were cremated at home by neighbors who, upon finding the entire family perished, would torch the thatch rather than risk contagion.

Only During the past two decades have growing numbers of newly-undeceived persons begun to speak for the murdered dead. Thus, its millions of victims are, at long last, being publicly vindicated by the truth of what actually occurred - the Food Removal - the at-gunpoint removal of Ireland's abundant foods by seventy-five British army regiments. (To learn which regiment starved your relatives see my irishholocaust.org and click on its map.)

The Cover-Up had been essentially total**. For more than 150 years until about 1997, its universal, official label was "Irish Famine" (frequently including "Potato"). It was taught as such in all schools.That label, "famine," obviously could not survive the growing awareness of the Food Removal. For example, a Cause of Death listed as "Asphyxiation" or "Lack of Oxygen" must be replaced by "Strangulation" upon discovery of a perpetrator. Otherwise one becomes complicit in a cover-up, especially if one is already in progress.

November 3rd has become Irish Holocaust Commemoration Day. It was on that date in 1845 that an alarmed group of twenty-two Irish notables visited Lord Heytesbury, Britain's envoy in Dublin, urging him to avert the growing calamity; to close Ireland's ports against removal of its food. He ignored their pleas and read to them from his prepared reply of two components; 1) he expressed no intention of stopping or slowing the food removal but did cast doubt upon the extent of the resultant hunger, and 2) spoke of one crop only - the potato. He then showed them the door.

Thus, November 3rd is the anniversary of two commemorated events; 1) the official start of the Holocaust, and 2) the start of the cover-up of the Food Removal and of the "famine"*** story. To Honor the Starvelings we promise to never forget, to erect memorials over their mass graves and to do all in our power to stop governmental policies of genocide. We also commemorate the beginning of the cover-up, observing how covering up genocides tends to ensure more of them. We also discern how the cover-up could not have succeeded without corrupting the language. Thus, indispensable to the genocidists were the false and diversionary insertion of words such as "Famine," "Great Hunger," "Gorta Mor," and "potato," It was these words, used in this context despite the Food Removal, that, even today, serve abettors of the cover-up, whether they intend it or not.

* "Holocaust" has precedence. In 1847 the Cork Examiner newspaper described it as such. So did others, incuding Michael Davitt in his two-volume works published about 1899. I remember that it was in the 1960s that Shoah publicizers adopted "Holocaust." Author Norman Finkelstein confirms this in his writings.
** Liam O'Flaherty's "The Famine" and Woodham-Smith's "The Great Hunger..." both briefly mentioned the at-gunpoint food removal.
*** Phytophthora infestans destroyed potato crops everywhere, but had no effect whatever upon Ireland's abundant livestock, poultry, grains, meal and flour, vegetables, fruits and dairy products. It was the at-gunpoint removal of these that created the genocide

http://www.irishholocaust.org/

The Mass Graves of Ireland
Introduction
Irishmen and Irishwomen!
Read this site and weep. Weep for the agonies and deaths of your people at the hands of genocidists. The authorities who imposed the curriculum, the teachers and professors who funneled it into you, have carefully kept you uninformed as to which British regiment, or that any regiment, murdered your people. Until now, that information was kept from you. You had no access to it. You do now - you read it on your computer screen! Commit the regiment's name to memory.

Never, ever, forget it!
Learn its British HQ town. As no Jewish person would ever refer to the "Jewish Oxygen Famine of 1939 - 1945", so no Irish person ought ever refer to the Irish Holocaust as a famine.
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(Click Map Above)
Page List:
Introduction
Britain's Cover Up
The Food Removal
Voices in the Wilderness
Official British Intent
Toll of Holocaust
Complicity
What We Must Do
Lisnabinnia Memorial
Liverpool, Great Hunger
Sister Jean Marie
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© 1995 Fogarty
At least 950,000 copies of this are now in circulation. This website, in pamphlet form, has been adopted as history course material in scores of universities, colleges and high schools. Right to photocopy this work is hereby granted but only in its entirety, with no change(s), and only for gratis distribution for educational purposes.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   The Irish Famine was not unique     Jim    Thu Nov 27, 2008 09:44 
   RTE revisionist     paul    Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:11 
   Why the famine really occurred.     Jim    Thu Nov 27, 2008 13:54 
   Who did not do their History homework then?     Frank Adam    Fri Nov 28, 2008 14:31 
   was the Holocaust the "Jewish Oxygen Problem"     Adam Frank    Fri Nov 28, 2008 15:12 
   flogging dead peasants     Frank Adam    Fri Nov 28, 2008 16:32 
   Missing the Point     Crazy Horse    Mon Dec 01, 2008 14:14 


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