Upcoming Events

National | Anti-War / Imperialism

no events match your query!

Blog Feeds

Public Inquiry
Interested in maladministration. Estd. 2005

offsite link RTEs Sarah McInerney ? Fianna Fail?supporter? Anthony

offsite link Joe Duffy is dishonest and untrustworthy Anthony

offsite link Robert Watt complaint: Time for decision by SIPO Anthony

offsite link RTE in breach of its own editorial principles Anthony

offsite link Waiting for SIPO Anthony

Public Inquiry >>

Human Rights in Ireland
Indymedia Ireland is a volunteer-run non-commercial open publishing website for local and international news, opinion & analysis, press releases and events. Its main objective is to enable the public to participate in reporting and analysis of the news and other important events and aspects of our daily lives and thereby give a voice to people.

offsite link Trump hosts former head of Syrian Al-Qaeda Al-Jolani to the White House Tue Nov 11, 2025 22:01 | imc

offsite link Rip The Chicken Tree - 1800s - 2025 Tue Nov 04, 2025 03:40 | Mark

offsite link Study of 1.7 Million Children: Heart Damage Only Found in Covid-Vaxxed Kids Sat Nov 01, 2025 00:44 | imc

offsite link The Golden Haro Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:39 | Paul Ryan

offsite link Top Scientists Confirm Covid Shots Cause Heart Attacks in Children Sun Oct 05, 2025 21:31 | imc

Human Rights in Ireland >>

Lockdown Skeptics

The Daily Sceptic

offsite link News Round-Up Fri Dec 19, 2025 00:21 | Will Jones
A summary of the most interesting stories in the past 24 hours that challenge the prevailing orthodoxy about the ?climate emergency?, public health ?crises? and the supposed moral defects of Western civilisation.
The post News Round-Up appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link It?s Not Misogyny But Misandry in the Classroom We Need to Worry About Thu Dec 18, 2025 19:00 | Joanna Gray
With just 35% of secondary teachers and 15% of primary teachers being men, it?s not misogyny but misandry in the classroom we need to worry about, says Joanna Gray. We have an education system designed by women for girls.
The post It’s Not Misogyny But Misandry in the Classroom We Need to Worry About appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Face Masks Harmed Care Home Residents in Ways No Health and Safety Apparatchik Can Ever Understand Thu Dec 18, 2025 17:00 | Simon Cavadino
Care delivered by masked people is frightening. It's literally faceless. Smiles are life-giving. Face masks harmed care home residents in ways no health and safety apparatchik can ever understand, says Simon Cavadino.
The post Face Masks Harmed Care Home Residents in Ways No Health and Safety Apparatchik Can Ever Understand appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link BREAKING: ?Superflu? Wave Goes into Decline Early Thu Dec 18, 2025 15:39 | Will Jones
The 'surging' wave of 'superflu' that is supposedly threatening the NHS with collapse this winter has gone into decline early, with prevalence dropping in the most recent week and hospital admissions falling flat.
The post BREAKING: ‘Superflu’ Wave Goes into Decline Early appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link The Problem With the Minimum Wage Thu Dec 18, 2025 13:31 | Mark Ellse
The UK's minimum wage has hit ?26,500 a year for full time work, an extraordinary level that may seem 'humane' but is having a devastating impact on employment and is dragging the economy down, says Mark Ellse.
The post The Problem With the Minimum Wage appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

Lockdown Skeptics >>

Voltaire Network
Voltaire, international edition

offsite link Will intergovernmental institutions withstand the end of the "American Empire"?,... Sat Apr 05, 2025 07:15 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?127 Sat Apr 05, 2025 06:38 | en

offsite link Disintegration of Western democracy begins in France Sat Apr 05, 2025 06:00 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?126 Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:39 | en

offsite link The International Conference on Combating Anti-Semitism by Amichai Chikli and Na... Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:31 | en

Voltaire Network >>

Shannon - a tale of two routes.

category national | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Monday October 22, 2007 11:51author by Tim Hourigan Report this post to the editors

ethical aviation, democracy? Not with FF...

A look at the similarities and differences between two routes out of Shannon.
The Aer Lingus route SNN - LHR and the US military flights to Iraq.

So, people are suprised at the government handling of the Shannon -
Heathrow link?
Well, let's compare and contrast with another route they DO support -
Shannon- Iraq.

Shannon - Heathrow is a very popular route, which carries tourists,
and business people to Heathrow and beyond for fairly peaceful and
lawful purposes agreeable to the Irish people.
Shannon - Iraq flights move troops, weapons, the CIA and possibly the
odd torture victim, for purposes of war, illegal occupation, killing
Iraqis, and maybe a trip to Guantanamo Bay , which most Irish people
oppose.

That's a difference, but what about similarities?
The government played dumb about Aer Lingus' decision to pull out, now
it seems they knew a lot earlier than they said they did.
In defending the US military use of Shannon, the government parrotted
Bush's lies about Saddam and the Blair dossier. It later emerged that
the experts in our Dept of Foreign Affairs told them BEFORE the war,
that the dossier was NOT CREDIBLE. (1)

The government spends NO money subsidising Aer Lingus at Shannon, and
Aer Lingus were belatedly offered reduced landing charges at Shannon.

The government spends millions subsidising the US military at Shannon.
about 4 million euro in Air Traffic Control fees that the US refused
to pay, as well as an even larger figure for the extra security
including the army, Gardai, building a enclosure for the military
flights, and a hi-tech motion detection system to guard the enclosure
(2).
The fees the Pentagon pays do not cover these costs. They pay for fuel
and food and a bit of duty free. Taxpayers like myself pay for the
rest.
In fact the US military, representing 6% of passengers at Shannon,
account for 95% of security costs, and the more they use Shannon the
more it costs us.

The loss of Shannon - Heathrow would be a big blow to the Irish
economy, especially in the Mid-West.

Stopping Shannon - Iraq would reduce the likelihood of anything
blowing up in the Midwest or the Middle East, and despite the
government spin, it would NOT impact significantly on the economy.

In both cases however, the government is resolved to wash its hands,
and ignore the people who pay their salaries.

=====
(1) As reported in the (London) Independent on Sunday, Sep 14, 2003
BLAIR'S WAR: How one man deed logic and intelligence to take us to war.

relevant excerpt. =
That was the headline-grabber, the stark image that stuck in the mind
- that fearful weapons could be unleashed suddenly, without warning,
on any of Iraq's neighbours. It was spotted almost immediately by an
expert in the Irish Republic's Department of Foreign Affairs, when a
British diplomat arrived in Iveagh House with a copy of the dossier,
hoping it would secure Ireland's vital vote on the UN Security
Council. Their specialist instantly dismissed it as utterly
unbelievable, for technical and political reasons.

Politically, it was unthinkable that Saddam would allow the Iraqi
army, which he deeply mistrusted, to hold weapons that they could use
for a sudden strike against a presidential palace, he said. And
technically, it defied belief that they could store these materials
permanently in battle-ready conditions out in the heat of the Iraqi
desert. [end of excerpt]

full article:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_2003091...45089

(2) Garda and Army costs at Shannon are in the region of ten million
euros per year. The weekend of the Bush visit alone cost between ten
and 15 million. Revenue from the military is about 7 million, which
is before deducting the cost of fuelling and servicing.
For a picture of the microwave motion detection system, click here...

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/68357

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Excellent post Tim     Eoin Dubsky    Mon Oct 22, 2007 14:46 
   Free market and imperialism     Dubois    Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:33 
   In the dark     Seán Ryan    Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:04 
   In the Dark     Sage    Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:16 
   Earth calling indymedia, come in please     Shannon worker    Wed Oct 24, 2007 01:56 
   Come up out of the earth and look around     Seán Ryan    Wed Oct 24, 2007 05:09 
   Excellent article     Mary Kelly    Wed Oct 24, 2007 09:50 
   In perspective?     Sceptic    Wed Oct 24, 2007 22:29 
   perspective.     Nonskeptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 00:04 
 10   Shannon     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:33 
 11   Huh?     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:57 
 12   it is still vigilantism     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 20:27 
 13   Qualification?     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 21:22 
 14   Shannon redux     Sceptic    Fri Oct 26, 2007 21:44 
 15   Empty vessels...     Seán Ryan    Fri Oct 26, 2007 22:31 
 16   Shannon rights and wrongs     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 14:23 
 17   More lessons for free     Seán Ryan    Sat Oct 27, 2007 15:18 
 18   Correction     Seán Ryan    Sat Oct 27, 2007 15:45 
 19   the Shannon transit facilitates a UN endorsed operation     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 17:21 
 20   -     Whistleblower    Sat Oct 27, 2007 18:41 
 21   An illegal war?     Sceptic    Sat Oct 27, 2007 22:22 
 22   Skeptic     Jimbob    Sat Oct 27, 2007 23:42 
 23   Not illegal, not based lies     Sceptic    Sun Oct 28, 2007 00:15 
 24   mantras and mandates.     Jimbob.    Sun Oct 28, 2007 00:54 
 25   anti missile missiles are not classified as WMD!     jinkees    Sun Oct 28, 2007 08:52 


Number of comments per page
  
 
© 2001-2025 Independent Media Centre Ireland. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by Independent Media Centre Ireland. Disclaimer | Privacy