Grattan Ahern

by Ok Wed May 16, 2007 11:13

There is a crown behind Mr Blair's Head. The Queen has been visiting with George Bush
and appearing in Hello!

Whilst none of this is exactly thrilling to many, the question has to be asked:-

1. The domestic policies of these two powers (Ireland and Uk) have been
anti-culture, pro-war and anti-education- who mandated Berite Ahern to address
the Joint houses of Commons when there are very severe problems in this country
which have been neglected by this administration in favour of creating for
both premiers 'a Place in History' ??????

by Watcher Wed May 16, 2007 11:53

Why the surprise?
Bertie has been selling out everyone and everything throughout his entire political life. The bottom line is that Bertie would sell his soul to be Taoiseach
The detour to Westminister was merely the icing on the cake. He has already sold out his people by creating a system in which his friends can milk everyone else dry. On Bertie's watch, the rich have become disgustingly richer while the poor are now even having their Health Service hijacked to allow the speculators further enrich themselves.Profiteering on people's suffering.

Young people cannot afford to aspire to own a home anymore and are condemned to pay rents to Berties friends until they die. And most of these friends will not even reside in the country. They will be in other places so that they can avoid paying any tax.

But we put up with this and everything else. We sit idly by and accept that taking money from business people by a Senior Government Minister is ok providing the receipts on what the money was spent on are produced. And look who's busting a gut to join Bertie in government. The graves are surely unquiet.

by Reductio Wed May 16, 2007 12:11

The text of the Guardian article:

Ahern Welcomes New Era in Westminister Speech:-

" Bertie Ahern, the Irish Taoiseach invited to address both Houses of Parliament,
Yesterday welcomed a new era of ' Parntnership and Peace' between Britain
and Ireland. In a speech to a combined sitting of the commons and Lords
Mr Ahern said the Good Friday Agreement and the power-sharing , devolved
government in Northern ireland represented " the triumph of common interests
over inherited divisions". He added " Let us consign arguments over the past
to the annals of the past, as we make history instead of being doomed to repeat it".

Compare this to Sir Anthony O' Reilly's salivating three page spread in
the Irish Independent.

The other story that is in the Guardian is the importation of US style
evangelical masculinism in Wyclef in Oxford, which has resulted in the
division and split of that institution from its roots of open-minded
approach to theological debate.

The Houses of Lords have been changed a lot under the Blairite regime;
but the one statement he made was that the bishops will never be
interfered with.

Wyclef produces those bishops, who too, suffer from the evangelical and
creationist ethos which has spread like an infection from the US. The
Lords will soon enough be the house of a generation of Homophobic
evangelicals.

Blair is a dangerous man and this 'Act of Union' shows an inability by
an Irish leader to discern the difficulties of a globalised hegamony
based in war and religious leaders; and not in dealing with the
reality of our social and global problems.

Page 3, The Guardian.

" UnHoly Row at Oxford's College for Clergy amid Staff Exodus and claims of
Bullying"

"The dipute in Wycleff Hall mirrors splits in Worldwide Anglicanism over
Homosexuality and theological direction".

Every member of the entire teaching staff except one wrote to the governing body
to complain of intimidation and demanding a meeting- needless to say the
new appointed head stonewalled them.

The creeping insidiousness of evangelicalism and religion based
in interpretation at an evangelical level rather than one of tolerance
is creating a Religious State allied to the US system. Bertie is a prat!

by Reductio ad Absurdum Wed May 16, 2007 12:31

This link is abour importation of the Evangelical Religious System, with its
anti-woman/anti-homosexual agenda to Wyclef College in Oxford.
Which related to the composition of the House of Lords under the Blairitie
regime.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2080088,00.html

This link is to the coverage of the address to the twin houses of the UK
parliament by an Taoiseach. It can be contrasted (as stated above, to the
O Reilly coverage).

The issue of insidiousness is quite simple, the problems on the island
of Ireland are community difficulties and a failure to respond to global
problems- a vast amount of cash has been worthlessly invested to
create this stupidity and is accompanied by a refusal to face up to the
difficulties at home by the Taoiseach. Thus the Grattan comment.

The alliance of religions is a globalised construct and refusal to
deal with issues of war and poverty. Mr Ahern has disgraced himself.

by diogenes club Wed May 16, 2007 14:38

"Mr Speaker, Lord Speaker,
Of course, the subject of Ireland was not always welcome in this place. I recall the words of Gladstone, who in November, 1890, noted that: "Since the month of December, 1885, my whole political life has been governed by a supreme regard to the Irish question. For every day, I may say, of these five years, we have been engaged in laboriously rolling up-hill the stone of Sisyphus. " Prime Minister Blair and I can certainly empathise with this! The so-called 'Irish Question' was for a long time shorthand in these halls for a nuisance, a problem, a danger. A recurring crisis that was debated here, but not where its effects were most felt. Today, I can stand here and say that the 'Irish Question' as understood then has been transformed."

put sisyphus through google, wikipedia and of course indymedia ireland's search engine. Obviously we have moved on from the age of siphylis, and the rt hon. dr A antediluvian Flood has transformed our national question....... but did Bertie really know what he was saying?

by Johnny Swift Wed May 16, 2007 14:57

The thing is simplistic, Mr Ahern did not know what he is saying because the man has
no political will, however, the image in Today's unison rag speaks volumes:-

Mr Ahern is photographed beneath a golden statue of Queen Elizabeth the first
and beside a portrait of a very young and elegant Queen Elizabeth the second!

(currently in the US)

The image speaks volumes:-

Instead of disecting the global problems, the US/K hegamony has reduced the issue to
simplistic interpretations of culture and religion, instead of looking for peace, they
have created a melting pot into which they hope that everything will conveniently fit.

Thus , the juxtaposition with the story on the Wyclef college evangelists and in Ireland
the reduction of Tara to a playground for one half of society- the already rich.

By reductionary logic they believe that if you homgenise , you reduce the chance of
conflict, however, no-one wants conflict, but they will get intellectual dissent.
This is not an act of peace , it is an anti-individualistic excerise in reactionary politics.

Mr Blair looks exceedingly fine in his pretty crown ?

by diogenes club Wed May 16, 2007 17:20

& more to the point a few of those he was talking to would have caught the reference to Gladstone. So at risk of bullying you on the point, I'd ask you to make the connections between one of the myths of Hades, the justice of Hell, Dante's infierno (properly spellt) since you've chosen Bosch to illustrate the point - and remind you that sisyphus with a slightly different spelling is the name of one of the main women's network umbrellas on the internet - and th etitle of a wonderful essay by Albert Camus. I believe C. Murray made reference to it once - http://www.indymedia.ie/article/78541

It certainly surprised me to see that quote from Gladstone, one which refers to a time period of 5 years, as if Gladstone was comparable, should Bertie ever get to meet the queen of the night will he be allowed sit while he waits? Thoug for those with long memories the quote was specific in its intent. Bertie wasn't invoking a women's group. He wasn't asking you to find C.Murray's article on pregnancy and deaths in Irish maternity institutes. Instead a very important moment in parliamentary history of both Ireland and the imperial kind was hinted at. Now I'm not really online at the moment - but I'm not far away either. I'd suggest to you that finding that Gladstone speech and reading it in its entirety would be worthwhile.

yes it's a very pretty crown.

by Reductio ad absurdum Sun May 20, 2007 20:23

The logic which complels the UK/Ireland investment potential- ie. Globalisation
war; and proto-facism has caused some degree of discomfiture too, on the
UK Kollectives .

Reducing basic human rights to freedom of religion/assembly/ association by
globalising religion and democratic principles is the simplistic way of attempting
to achieve 'peace', masked as 'undifferentiation' between differing cultures.

The EU was founded as a loose trade allignment of co-operating states, with
international treaties and co-operation on Rights Issues, but it has become a
globalised entity which has betrayed the basic tenets of liberties by creating
false alliances in order to smooth the way for a cultural superstate which
disavows our differences in traditions.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/05/371166.html

Interesting present that Mr Paisley presented to Mr Ahern on the Boyne Site.
The legacy of erosion of freedoms ;and human rights abuses in order to create
and sustain a narrative of freedom is still being read in all island terms.
including the luring of direct anti-liberties corporative entities to both
countries in lieu of addressing the needs of the actual people who inhabit
theses islands.

Betrayal of democratic values of freedoms long cherished informed the spew
of photographic opportunities over the last few years.

The story is just above the ongoing debate over the expected Brown announcement on
withdrawal from Iraq, which is covered too on Mainstream media.

by Reductio Mon May 21, 2007 19:37

Mr Cowen TD and present Minister for purse-strings at the Dail has admitted going
to meet with Sir Anthony o Reilly at the beginning of the dirtiest election campaign
in the history of the State to discuss how FF was represented and did he do an
excellent Job?

The Guardian gave the Westminister address precisely one paragraph, whilst the
Irish 'Independent' gave a headline photo and two pages of indecent salivating
coverage.

'o, we the Oirish will you look how posh!.. tea with the royals and scones too'

Thus far we have had Merckel supporting FG.
Clinton Supporting FF
Tony O Reilly massaging the huge psychological chip on the shoulder
over our 'poverty' which of course in his little universe is measured in ££££
and an unequal and smeared election which is not grounded in mandate
but sweet sweet money and econmic factors.

if ye lie down with dogs , you get fleas.
There is a wealth about Ireland that is not measurable by the fake tans and designer shoes
of the generation of new rich (who are rich through exploitation of Africa and choosing to ignore
war).

The Westminister Address deserved the one paragraph and that is all.
Irish Taoiseach addresses both houses of Parliament despite the worst
record on health in the history of the Oirish state.
Ahern alluded to Poet's Corner where Richard Brinsley Sheridan is buried.
The house of the poet is as dilapidated and up for sale as the rest of our cultural
richness.

by Reductio ad absurdum Mon May 21, 2007 21:44

Those who do business with the UK/S hegamony are not smelling of roses;-

(mainstream coverage of the Cartergate debacle)

http://home.eircom.net/content/irelandcom/breaking/1044...omnet

The Bush allies and of Course Mr Blair who provided conscience for this war by
forming 'The coalition of the willing' is coming up smelling of manure, it may take some
little time however for the 'click'- Irish pensions funds are tied up in globalism, and the
property market that the Irish abuse in Eastern Europe -so beloved of the lifestyle
pages of the fakely tanned accquisitve I.T reader is part of the problem.

= refusal to acknowledge that maybe there is an inequality both in poverty at home
and in the creation of poverty 'overseas'.

but at least I.T is covering the wrist-slapping unlike indo which had a two page spread
of the Westminister address in the midst of degradation and poverty , lack of hospitals
and the run down of the education system.

Mr Brown is set to announce a withdrawal from Iraq. and focus on domestic policy.

Blair has not gone- he is attempting a dual prime ministerial role in the UK.

by Reductio ad absurdum Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:52

Today's Sunday Papers tell of the demands for the Government of this State to meet in
emergency session over the Aer Lingus debacle, this comment is in the line of an
need to know about Shannon. The opinion piece above also contains a reference
to globalised religious fundamentalism in Oxford. The present UK and Irish governments have
displayed an ignorance of history that is baffling to behold and the resultant problems are
evinced in the theocratic management of Oxford and the laissez-faire attitude to the economic
concerns of the community at Shannon.

Yesterday's Saturday Guardian contained an updated report on the debacle at Wycleff,
where for the first time in the history of that institute the college proper is considering
removing Wycleff from the academic rolls for not educating students of theology, for
illiberal approach to education and for anti-women and anti-homophobia pronouncements
*by the head -Dr Turnbull-.
(http://www.guardian.co.uk - Education/ Stephen Bates/ Religious affairs Correspondent)

The thrust of Globalisation is to remove niggling things like differences between people and to
instil a 'mean' or 'mode'of acceptable approach to education and democracy. it displays
a lack of diversity in approach to human differences and a lack of respect for the voices
of others, in this case women are denied leadership roles.

In Shannon, there has always been difficulty. Always under FF administrations, a few years
ago it was the 'Shannon Stopover' and our relation to the US, now it is a problem caused by
the creation of wealth on the whole island of Ireland. The GFA is not about peace,
it is about removing differences and creating wealth, this means that some sacrifices will
be expected of the two communities on this island. The sacrifices include:-

*allowing 'Love Ulster' parades.
*allowing the imprisonment of political dissenters.
Reducing to absurdity the politcal differences between people.
Recognising that 'peace' is rooted in the dollar.
Accepting a facsimile of democratic impetus based on investment and on a minority
of enfranchised people.
Accepting that the media will bolster the political system and ignore the needs of community
thereby obfuscating the real problems including the health care system, the wealth gap,
the use of US sponsored control mechaniss against citizens.
everyone signed up to it, including the people of Shannon who allowed their fellow
citizens be arrested and tried during the ongoing war and rendition flights.

Who will stand for them?

by Absurdum Tue Sep 18, 2007 17:47

Sir Reginald Empey last seen in the Republic gazing to the ceilings of the Long Hall in
Trinity College in the company of Mary Hanafin (TD- Education) and Micheal Martin (TD
Enterprise and Employment) on the Day of the Watson exhibit launch has castigated
our Bertie for selling his wares to the SDLP and attempting an FF network in the North.
'He is throwing a grenade into the Peace Process' (Said the UUP Stalwart).
bertie has moved to soothe troubled brows by claiming that his FFers won't be
contesting Westminister (Thats SF's Job- they get the pay)

RTE will cover @18.01

and not one of them have asked why the property values in the island are more
important than the provision of health services and education services. This
is the result of the Druid's Glen 'Think-in'

The Druid's Glen used be a sleepy hollow near Loughlinstown, it is now a tech centre
with fake trees and baby round -abouts, the provision of work to the US companies
being more important than the retention of community hospital services.The Watson
launched concerned the DNA helix...

by Reductio Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:47

This charming image of Mark Durkan (SDLP) and Bertie was published on the front page of the I.T
on Saturday the 3rd of November . The signpost in the backround isn't quite coming out of Mr
Ahern's Head, but it is an image that is meant to show the next stage of the FF 'United Ireland'
two party system which is the net result of overt interferences in Irish Politics by sucessive US regimes.

The FF 'think in' at the Druid's Glen which occurred at the set off of this electoral term had
promulgated the idea that FF should start a party in north of Ireland and fight the elections up there.
This caused the ire of Sir Reginald Empey who accused Mr Ahern of 'throwing a grenade into the
peace process'. FF attempted to calm the situation by stating that FF would not contest Westminister
elections.Mr Ahern (Dermott) is the one dealing with bringing FF to Ulster and making connections
with local parties in the north. Interestingly FF 's attempts at absorbtion by stealth would yield
a party which has a high proportion of women candidates, something which FF does not do.
(in the main FF women get seats through inheritance or simony).

In the South, Party Politcs are tending more toward the two party system with centrism the order
of the day and most parties sending personnel to EU fora and such like. The Green party
have completely decimated their grassroot and even allowed for GM during the term of
office of Junior Minister Trevor Sargeant. The sum of the political connivances of FF has been
an over-subscribed SDLP conference this last weekend , with parties North and South attending
the annual chinwag of SDLP in the hopes of finding 'Common Ground' for a united political
Ireland, one wonders why Durkan would be attracted to a party in political meltdown
which has ignored domestic issues in the areas of farming, health services, education
and equality. {and Fiscal corruption on a grand scale}

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