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Papal Fallibility & Ratzinger's apology.

category international | history and heritage | opinion/analysis author Monday September 18, 2006 19:04author by iosaf .:. ipsiphi Report this post to the editors

Regardless of one's position on faith groups, comparatively recent concepts of world civilisation blocks, secularism, state & religious group relations - the importance of this last week's papal history can not quickly be underestimated.

Though I come to considering Ratzinger's personal apology for his anti-Islamic comments whilst on holidays in his native Bavaria from old fashioned anti-papist prejudice. Benedict XVI who wanted us all to consider his job as supreme pontiff of the Roman Catholic church in the terms of the last war-time (WW1) pacifist "Benedict" has instead made history as the first pope to publically apologise.

& what a lame effort it was, as one nun lies murdered in a inter-religious sectarian attack in Africa & the Vatican city endures its highest level security alert since the mid 19th century.

That previous "hot period" was indeed when Pope Pius IX promulgated both the notions of Mary's blast-off into heavenly space & "papal infallibity" itself. The single most problematic teachings of the RC church for not only christian ecumenism, but also the freemasons whom he had described in the encyiclal "Qui Pluribus" (1849), as "men linked by evil union". For his troubles the Vatican was occupied by the French army & his funeral coffin was almost thrown into the Tiber on the night of July 12th 1881.

What is important now - is how Ratzinger's apology which follows 2 seperate & quite contrite apologies from the Holy See will be understood wherever muslims or their friends are to be found. An importance which now overshadows exactly what Papa Ratzi, the black pope, he who tied up the last mystery of Fatima - the german shepherd actually said in Bavaria.His "humble apology" put the "inverted commas" into an otherwise sweet as dishwater address to the ever dwindling faithful. The towering intellectual (who like his namesake & the author of this article) speaks a glut of languages & plays classical piano everyday to chill out forgot to remind his audience that when he sort of said "all muslims are mad mullahs and jihad is typical of Islam which only spread itself through the sword" , he was in fact quoting a medieval writer.

You knew that didn't you?
Oh! that's a medieval writer, Ratzinger is plagiarising went up the cries from little Hussein in the ashram to Johann Mengele waving the papal flag in the Bavarian square. His Holiness followed this clarification with the really pathetic disclaimer "but that's not my personal opinion" . Well, that makes everything alright doesn't it? If in future the pope wants to quote crusader propagandists he'll just need to use his fingers in the global "inverted commas" sign & then we'll know he's just an ultra-conservative but on the side of God's struggle all the same.

It has been a little over a month since another man first elected with as little democratic panache as Ratzinger first used the words "islamo-fascist" . G.W. Bush first used the term on the 10th of August, since when it has been recorded over a thousand times on network US TV and the sort of newspapers they read. Curiously that foray into "language" by Bush came just after he had apologised for "poorly thought out language & statements" in the previous 3 years. You remember surely?

"we are on a crusade"

I wonder when Joseph Ratzinger will get to saying ...........
........"bring it on "

Before anyone reminds us - the RC church clocked up more genocide in its worldwide expansion than any other world faith group. That's why so few people in South America look "pre-colombine Latin". Enough to turn you onto the Mormons indeed.

here endeth the lesson

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Great article     Miriam    Mon Sep 18, 2006 20:05 
   Pope Benedict.     John    Mon Sep 18, 2006 20:49 
   Chairman     Seán Ryan    Mon Sep 18, 2006 21:09 
   Papa Nazi can stick his Papal Bull     Yusuf    Mon Sep 18, 2006 22:26 
   Pope Benedict     John    Mon Sep 18, 2006 23:01 
   the last commentator has "yusef" has hit close to a mark which prompts an reply from me.     iosaf    Mon Sep 18, 2006 23:27 
   Pope Rat The First     Yusuf    Mon Sep 18, 2006 23:51 
   A response for what it's worth..........     Ciaron    Mon Sep 18, 2006 23:58 
   Nazis.     John    Tue Sep 19, 2006 00:56 
 10   Nazzi or Nutzie?     Yusuf    Tue Sep 19, 2006 01:09 
 11   Hitler Youth     John    Tue Sep 19, 2006 02:39 
 12   Fuck the Pope     Anabaptist    Tue Sep 19, 2006 03:13 
 13   Nazi Catholics in Fascist Europe     Yusuf    Tue Sep 19, 2006 08:39 
 14   Responses to Anabaptist & Yusuf     Ciaron    Tue Sep 19, 2006 09:37 
 15   But for all that Ciaron     Miriam    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:04 
 16   like a virgin     madonna    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:16 
 17   Bilderberg link?     Seamuseen    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:34 
 18   Bilderberg     Miriam    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:54 
 19   re: virgin (ideology and elasticity of memes)     redjade    Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:02 
 20   Connections - connections     Trilateral fan    Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:49 
 21   Ciaron     Anabaptist    Tue Sep 19, 2006 13:51 
 22   ray     pat c    Tue Sep 19, 2006 14:31 
 23   A pruner not a recruiter     Ciaron    Tue Sep 19, 2006 15:36 
 24   More on Bilderberg     Miriam    Tue Sep 19, 2006 17:44 
 25   The Pope     Robyn    Wed Sep 20, 2006 04:29 
 26   Yusef the Hypocrite     Bollocks Indymedia!!    Wed Sep 20, 2006 05:41 
 27   Yusef, question boyo     Anti-Nazi    Wed Sep 20, 2006 05:48 
 28   Response to Robyn     UnAmerican    Wed Sep 20, 2006 08:26 
 29   You Had To Pass Exams To Get in the Hilter Youth.     Jimmy From Ballygomartin    Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:31 
 30   Money.     Chris Murray    Wed Sep 20, 2006 13:41 
 31   factual updates     iosaf    Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:55 
 32   like a good muslim should     take it    Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:10 
 33   The Schulerkreis.     Chris    Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:20 
 34   Thoughts provoked by Ciaron     Paul B    Thu Sep 21, 2006 13:46 
 35   Clarification....     Ciaron    Thu Sep 21, 2006 20:42 
 36   re: burning effigies of the pope & how mother church & daddy umam really are alike & slow & cranky.     sofia +    Thu Sep 21, 2006 21:15 
 37   Clarification in response...     Paul Baynes    Fri Sep 22, 2006 01:04 
 38   Clashes within Christianity     Miriam    Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:32 
 39   Something Better to Chew On     The Great Djerginski    Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:13 
 40   actually....     Chris Murray    Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:37 
 41   Response to Paul & Miriam and further clarification on reflection     Ciaron    Fri Sep 22, 2006 17:16 
 42   Links to other pope story.     c murray    Fri Sep 22, 2006 17:20 
 43   Ciaron     Fatima    Fri Sep 22, 2006 17:33 
 44   Why Should it Concern You......?     ?    Fri Sep 22, 2006 17:44 
 45   Yes there was another article     DennisL    Fri Sep 22, 2006 17:44 
 46   "you are cordially invited to Gandolf's castle, 11.30am Monday morning"     iosaf    Sat Sep 23, 2006 19:08 
 47   and well....     Statin' the Obvious.    Sat Sep 23, 2006 19:58 
 48   How Tolkienish the Papa is     Gandalf the Grey    Sat Sep 23, 2006 20:17 
 49   may be it should be renamed "saruman's castle"?     bilbo    Sun Sep 24, 2006 14:11 
 50   Saruman- the white wizard     Gandalf the Grey    Sun Sep 24, 2006 14:27 
 51   the pope     Ernst Udet 7th    Sun Sep 24, 2006 22:16 
 52   "I used to think the Pope was infallible"     cat stevens    Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:31 
 53   A Small Gift     Chris Murray    Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:23 
 54   Intolerance Institutionalized     Not a Dhimmi    Mon Sep 25, 2006 17:16 
 55   islam     micheal o coinneain    Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:43 
 56   It's all a Double-edged Sword**     Chris Murray    Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:52 
 57   Correction to michaels.     PaddyK    Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:20 
 58   bahh     horsey    Fri Sep 29, 2006 13:07 
 59   Mark Almond says: Just say No.     PaddyK    Fri Sep 29, 2006 13:21 
 60   LINK-MAlbert on Chavez Scriptual References at U.N. Abbie Hoffman, Chomsky et al     Abbie Hoffman    Fri Sep 29, 2006 22:05 
 61   one month on, the speech has now been archived online & more importantly "an amended online version"     winston smith    Tue Oct 10, 2006 22:24 


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