New issue of The Blanket

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 17:51

It's interesting to note that the editor of the Blanket, Anthony McIntyre, gets a very favourable mention in - and writes for - the British Movement. Don't believe me? Check out their site "www.henryjacksonsociety.org" and then click on the 'Northern Ireland' tab. The only question is, is McIntyre a fool or a rogue? Or is supporting British neofascists in vogue now??

by de ghoul Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:31

It is a good thing I didn't believe you!

You can't even read!! - I went to the website you linked and it's talking about *a book* called The British Moment not the "British Movement" - how sad are you?

"The British Moment" is the foreign policy manifesto of a group of young academics based at Cambridge University, the Henry Jackson Society.

When did Mac'cers become a young academic based at Cambridge?

If you are going to try to smear someone's character, at least get it right before you go off on a tirade and embarrass yourself, fuck's sake. (Or are you just throwing mud in the hope some of it sticks, even sadder)

BTW, an interview with Mac'cers is on that site, here, probably better to read that to see what he is about than to trust the illiterate 'de gaul', who obviously has an axe to grind *cough idiot cough* LOL LOL

http://zope06.v.servelocity.net/hjs/sections/britain_wo...94564

Interesting point about the creative left.

by MichaelY - iawm Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:39

Sometimes reading the trivial but seriously negative nonsense some anonymistas write, it's worth wondering are they really illiterate nuts who can neither spell nor read or are they paid trolls geared to create confusion....here I was earlier this morning praising Anthony for his good article on Eamonn McCann and up comes this nonsense....how on earth does the British MOMENT become the neo-fascist BRITISH MOVEMENT.

Anyway, well done again Anthony - keep up the good work.

Solidarity

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:44

A group of young academics? All very innocent sounding - makes them seem like the boy scouts. Did you read their stuff? Or is there a difference between neocons and neofascists now?

by de ghoul Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:51

I don't know, is there a difference between MOMENT and MOVEMENT?

Here's a hint, if you can't tell those apart, you're not going to be the most reliable source for anything else!

Speaking of reading, I did read Mac'cer's stuff in the Blanket - Good article on McCann, and the Third Camp Manifesto was good, too - well, for those of us that can read!

I'd like to echo Michael Y, keep up the good work.

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:54

None of that answers the question why he's being pushed by these people and why he allows it - or is this outfit progressive in your view?

by de ghoul Mon Aug 14, 2006 18:57

It looks like the Danish cartoons and the Blanket's publication of them is why they interviewed him, but you'd have to actually read what is on their site to pick up on that point. I understand that may be beyond your ability.

by de ghoul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:07

No wonder you are annoyed - You must be one of the irrelevant left!

"As McIntyre stated in the interview he has given to The Henry Jackson Society (see here), he sets himself firmly against the ‘irrelevant Left’, which sees ‘some people in the world… not worthy of the same rights as other human beings’. Instead, he hopes The Blanket can be part of an effort to arouse ‘a more creative, inventive and imaginative’ alternative, which reaffirms ‘the values and freedoms that liberal democracy provides’ and throws its weight behind the democrats, dissenters and reformers under tyranny and theocracy. Liberty, in other words, must reclaim its place as the partner of equality and fraternity."

What a neofascist he is!

In this context, McIntyre’s real struggle is not so much against Islamist theocracy as the trajectory of old allies on the Left: those who would see violent protests against the cartoons as an understandable reaction to the apparent depredations of the West, and recoil at the ‘imperialist’ notion of projecting democracy and human rights across the planet. The Blanket thus, makes a formidable addition to a dynamic dissident movement being mobilised within leftist ranks; a ‘hidden continent’ of opinion as Paul Berman puts it, perturbed that the rush to condemn excesses of Western power is forcing the surrender of Western virtues - or, at least failing to apply liberal standards outside the Anglo-American sphere of controversy. In Britain, its literary expression can be found in Saturday, Ian McEwan’s meditation on conflict, intervention and indifference; the idea has since been galvanised by the Euston Manifesto. Common to all is the appeal to the conscience of liberal politics to restore Enlightenment values against terror and intimidation; an appeal that has been central to the work of The Henry Jackson Society since its foundation in March 2005.

The bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:07

Oh yes, that explains it - sorry must go now, the editor of Bulldog is on the line, wants an interview, normally I wouldn't lend credence to a fascist rag by allowing myself to be published in it, but after your explanation I see that it's OK.
Thank you so much

by Michael - iawm Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:13

de Gaul,

First you tried to con all of us in Indymedia with the nonsense about the British Movement. A spelling error here - is that what we're supposed to believe?

Having been found out, you now start arguing political semantics about neo-fascism and neo-conservatism...are you really so politically illiterate as to wilfully bundle fascism and all it represents with neo(conservative) politics? Does Cameron, for example, of the Tories represent in your world the same type of politics as the British Movement? Do you call our own Minister of Injustice here a fascist?

So - you either get back to your gutter and say you're publicly sorry to Anthony for trying to smear him or stand up and argue this exemplary new political line so that we can be all educated further.

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:13

Yer link don't work...

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:19

You can, and will, believe what you like. No Cameron is not a neocon, but Blaair is, as is Cheaney and Rumsfelt. If you think these people are not fascists that's fair enough - though you might ponder their destruction of Iraq and general anti-semetism (Arabs being also semites) I suggest you look up 'neocon'. I reckon they publicise McI because he's useful to them in his attacks on SF. Not that their problem is with SF, it's with nationalism/republicanism in general, but they use the little republicans to attack the big (and therefore SERIOUS) republican threat

by de ghoul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:24

Are you sure it wasn't BULL-OCKS magazine that rang you up? You never can be too sure, you know.

BTW: Correct link
http://zope06.v.servelocity.net/hjs/sections/britain_wo...13407

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:28

Well, I'm just happy if I've caused enough of a fuss to make him think twice before lending credence to that outfit again. Apology? None

by de Gaul Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:45

Michael Iawm wrote

"So - you either get back to your gutter and say you're publicly sorry to Anthony for trying to smear him or stand up and argue this exemplary new political line so that we can be all educated further".

Well, I did, but there wasn't much of an argument back from you lot ...

Going to go now ....... for real

by ban them Mon Aug 14, 2006 22:16

de Gaul is a provo out on one of their many smear campaigns. While usually RSf are their favorite target, Anthony always gets under their skin too. What one wonders is why the provisionals are even permitted to (mis)use indymedia in the first place.

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 20:14

'de Gaul is a Provo'. Wonderful, when you can't answer an argument you label it - inaccurately, by the way, but don't let reality get in the way of your theories...

by Disgusted ex provo Wed Aug 16, 2006 20:41

Maccers is one of the many Ex-Blanketmen who continues to point out the hypocrisies of $inn Feign. It is people like him who continues to be a thorn in the side of those who've redeveloped the Republican Movement of Bobby Sands and all who gave their lives for the cause of Irish freedom and turned it into a Politically Corrupt Organisation.

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 20:54

turned it into a politically significant organisation, you mean - the unionists would love nothing better than to write republicanism off as terrorism and roll it up under the 'war on terror' label. Politics is the one thing that they can't handle...a return to the gun - particularly in the 'new reality' post 9/11, is not an option

by de ghoul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:03

but don't let reality get in the way of your theories...

You first! Nothing you have said so far bears any relation to reality, from the first moment to the last!

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:11

'de Ghoul' you do get all excited, don't you? It's this simple, there are 'useful idiots', as Lenin called them, idealists, who can be used by the opposition. These dissidents get bigged up by the likes of Henry J simply as another way of attacking the Provos - these people hate what the dissidents stand for as well, but know that they are no threat and are useful in undermining the real threat.
Got it? Or is real politics too complicated for you? Of course the Provos aren't pure and idealistic - they'd be no threat if they were....can you answer this point? Or will you rant again - I'm worried you might dirty your nappy..

by de ghoul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:13

Put down the Le Carre and back away from the computer, there's a good boy now.

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:16

Yep, as I expected, you can't make - or answer - a political point.

by de ghoul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:22

When you stop chasing your tail and make one, I'd be happy to engage in political debate. As it is.......

by Disgusted ex provo Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:23

But we didn't need a new SDLP or Fianna Fail and that's what $inn Feign have become. Adams like Hume is the sole policy maker in $inn Feign. No one dare question his decisions and the loyal yes men & women are well rewarded. The Hunger Strikers gave their lives before they would bend the knee to Thatcher. Adams has $inn Feign on it's knees grovelling to Bigots so that they might get a place in Paisley's Government when he decides to set it up. Paisley is playing with Adams like a cat plays with a dead bird and he takes it.

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:30

I've made it, repeatedly. McI is being used - like a good 'useful idiot' idealist - as a way of bashing the Provos - not for any other reason. Read the HJS website and tell me why you think they have him on - and have you figured out 'neocon' yet? That HJS is neocon, as is Bush and Blair, Cheaney and Rumsfeld (though Cameron isn't). In fact, as you obviously didn't understand the term, I'm probably a fool to bother talking politics with you at all - just google 'neocon' and see if you can join the dots up yourself....terrorism depoliticises, the Provos have learnt this and have thus become dangerous to the status quo. You boyos would like to go back to the 'acceptable levels of violence' - which changed nothing. 'cept you can't go back in the context of a 'war on terror' (Be Jaysus Paisley would love it - for the first time he could go to the US and be lauded for his heroic stance against 'terrorists' ...)

by de Gaul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:35

go away and lear even the basics of politics ......click

by de ghoul Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:38

If you think the Provos have become "dangerous to the status quo" as opposed to having become the status quo, you are more delusional than first appeared. Advice: learn to read first, then take your time and read thoroughly to be sure that you understand what you are reading. It might help you if you are going to bash and smear people to know what it is they are actually about. The fact you are banging on about "a return to the gun" "go back to acceptable levels of violence" shows you have not a fucking clue what you are talking about, you are just parroting the latest line you've heard somewhere.

LEARN TO READ! THINK FOR YOURSELF!

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

by Disgusted ex provo Wed Aug 16, 2006 21:46

de Gaul you seem to be typing some sort of political jigsaw were we have to put the words in their proper places. I don't agree with Violence as it achieves nothing but I am disgusted that so many have died for what the SDLP could have got years ago. We don't need a new SDLP and that's what $inn Feign have become.