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Thursday January 01 1970

Public debate on the Gaeltacht Quarter

category antrim | miscellaneous | event notice author Tuesday August 01, 2006 22:11author by Ciarán Report this post to the editors

Díospóireacht poiblí ar an Cheathrú Gaeltachta

A public debate on the development of Belfast's Gaeltacht Quarter

With
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir - Andersonstown News Group
Ian Parsley - Alliance Party
Nelson McCausland - DUP
Ian Malcolm - Journalist and political commentator
Sue Ward - NI Tourist Board
Jake Mac Siacais - Forbairt Feirste

Wednesday 9th August, 5.30pm
in An Chultúrlann,
Falls Road, Belfast

Tickets are free but MUST be booked in advance
028 9064 4180

author by Darren Mac an Phríorapublication date Fri Aug 04, 2006 16:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It would be very helpful if the bus tours that go down to the Falls Road would actually tell people where An Chultúrlann is.

author by Seánpublication date Sat Aug 05, 2006 17:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

That will happen when the area becomes a Gaeltacht quarter. West Belfast needs a lot of social housing. I don't think I know any areas in Dublin (where I live) that are as deprived as West Belfast. I have no problems going there but the area is not a turn on for most tourists. I would knock down a lot of the houses and replace them with social houses as is happening in some parts of the South. I would focus on that, although I certainly am in favour of increasing the visiblity of Irish in the area, and Forbairt Feirste are to be commended for the work they are doing.

author by Ciaránpublication date Sat Aug 05, 2006 19:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Darren:
It would be very helpful if the bus tours that go down to the Falls Road would actually tell people where An Chultúrlann is.

I've seen a bus tour that goes down the Falls Road, but it turns left and goes down Broadway just before you come to An Chultúrlann. It's a pity too, because the place has an interesting history.

Seán:
That will happen when the area becomes a Gaeltacht quarter. West Belfast needs a lot of social housing. I don't think I know any areas in Dublin (where I live) that are as deprived as West Belfast. I have no problems going there but the area is not a turn on for most tourists.

True enough. Most tourists who do come to West Belfast would be there for the mural tour or some other political aspect like that. Of course when it comes to Féile an Phobail the place usually becomes quite busy; it's apparently one of the biggest community festivals in Europe. (And there's also the Ardoyne Fleadh and the New Lodge Festival in the North that are doing a lot of the same good work.)

author by Buckpublication date Sun Aug 06, 2006 01:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Sinn Féin use the Irish language for politcal purposes and West Belfast is mostly SF supporting, apart from a lot of young people who like to rob cars and respondingly get kneecapped by certain people. Interestingly, despite the "strength" of Sinn Féin, West Belfast has the highest rates of cars getting robbed in Western Europe.

Sinn Féin are mostly a shambles on the Irish language, and their attempt to make themselves bilingual within 10 years is a joke.

There is more genuine interest in the Irish language in FG and the PD's than there is in SF. West Belfast is a ghetto propounded by SF, and they like it that way.

author by Darren Mac an Phríorapublication date Mon Aug 07, 2006 03:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I don't know if I agree with Buck, but I certainly agree that West Belfast needs social housing and is not a turn-on for most tourists.

I find it surprising that Gerry Adams has not been put forwarding this issue, not that I have heard of anyway.

There is a dearth of interest in most political parties in Ireland in the Irish language, which reflects the position on the ground. Sure, there are enough Irish speakers in political parties to represent Irish language issues, but the situation could be whole lot better. Irish language activists (providing they are not arrogant, as some are) are knocking on an open door when bringing up issues about Irish with most politicans in the South.

That most Irish speakers don't "walk through the door" is indicative of the laziness of Irish people generally.

The number of careerists in the Irish language movement disgusts me. However (for all you anti-Irish language fools) I don't think that we are any more "careerist" than members of political parties, or of Churches or charity organisations etc.

The Irish language movement has, broadly, failed to realise that the support is there for Irish throught the country- just as much so amongst non-Irish speakers. When they do, occassionly, ralise many behave arrogantly (like language movements with an offical bent do).

Laziness- its the moral sin of mankind.

author by Darren Mac an Phríorapublication date Mon Aug 07, 2006 03:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Laziness- its the moral sin of mankind."

Laziness is both immoral and mortal.

author by dukeofapublication date Mon Aug 07, 2006 20:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

if you all feel strongly about it go to the debate and make your views for or against known. thats where it counts!!

author by Duinepublication date Mon Aug 07, 2006 20:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Tá súil agam go mbeidh cuntas ar an oíche ag duine éigin anseo.

Beirigí bua!

author by Darren Mac an Phríorapublication date Mon Aug 07, 2006 22:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Dukeofa,

I'm definetly in favour of it, but I will be unable to go to Belfast that day. While I doubt there would be any rational Irish speakers against it throughout the country, it is for the people of West Belfast to discuss. They are already showing the lead with Irish language signage outside of the Gaeltacht.

author by Seánpublication date Thu Aug 10, 2006 15:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

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