Interest grows for James Connolly Book Launch

by long time connollyite Fri Apr 21, 2006 19:12

Trotters is saying all the things the BandI.C.O. were saying 20 years ago,were the Sinners now.

by redmondite Fri Apr 21, 2006 17:10

In fairness 'blithering idiot' John Redmond never claimed to be a pacifist but he was undoubtedly a democrat. The democratically elected leader of Nationalist Ireland at the time in fact, and a highly succesful one too at that point, having got Home Rule onto the statute books after generations of campaigning.
The carnage that the so called 'Great War' descended into, the remorseless tide of telegrams back to widows and orphans, the very real threat of conscription and the pitiless response to the easter rising by the british government all contributed to his downfall and subsequent airbrushing from our history.

by blithering idiot Fri Apr 21, 2006 00:25

Who was it boasting to the House of Commons over the water that Protestants and Catholics would be shedding their blood together in the one glorious cause?

Oh yes, it was the pacifist democrat, John Redmond.

by Topper Fri Apr 21, 2006 00:14

Trotters, I'm afraid Connolly advocated no such thing. When Pearse spoke of "blood sacrifice" as a noble thing (very much in line with the mainstream of European thought at the time) Connolly retorted that anyone who spoke in such terms was a "blithering idiot". Well said by the "dinosaur" whose writings will continue to inspire people for a long time to come...

by trotters Thu Apr 20, 2006 21:41

Anyone who is even slightly interested in a long-dead Scottish dinosaur who advocated 'blood sacrifice' and peddled a totally discredited ideology really needs to change their medication.

(btw, I would have thought theat the ideology of 'blood-sacrifice' would have been rather discredited by its association with a certain party led by a gent with a toothbrush moustache!)

by masters voice watcher Thu Apr 20, 2006 19:17

another useful point by our ever present masters voice. Though as the above comment demonstrates he/she is sartin to loose their touch a little. MVs sectarianism just dosent have the witty charm it use to, he/she has therefore become obsolete, and will now have to get a new job, possibly writing useless comments on another site.
yours
Masters Voice Watcher

by MV Thu Apr 20, 2006 18:20

I think if you re-read the original posting you may find that Larry isnt sharing a platform with the SWP, they may be falling over themselves in their rush to embrace Fianna Fail and government, but even they wouldnt lower themselves to accomodate SWP booklitter sales.
You have to draw the line somewhere,
I hope anyhows,
with wespect,
Masters Voice

by tom eile Thu Apr 20, 2006 17:16

Yes ,it does seem a bit of an odd combination - Larry O'Toole the main speaker at an SWP book(let) launch with Manus O'Riordan in attendance . The BICO crowd did a job on the stickies in the eighties ; they provided left cover to justify the ditching of republican principals . And we all know where that led to. I wonder what plans they have for the provos.
Jonah , what I can't work out is this . Seeing as it was a public launch in a public house, why was it thought neccessary to apologize to Manus for the remonstrator ? Who did the apologizing and on on whose behalf ?

by Sam Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:53

Excuse ma ignorance but what book was Sinn Fein launching on Connolly? His collected writings? Didn't the CP publish them aoens ago via the Stalinist dictatorship in East Germany that they loved so much?

What book ya all on about?

SWP launch gathering increasing interest? Ho ho ho! Nice try.

by Was there on the night Thu Apr 20, 2006 04:22

Noal Murphy from thr IWU was the main speaker on the night,the man who had a go at ORiordan was about his own age and knew what he was on a about,young activist who were not around at the time,have to respect him for that. What ORiordan was up to 25 years is just unthinkable now.

by long time Connollyite Wed Apr 19, 2006 22:42

So Larry O Toole said the lanch was open to the public,well may be it was,but O Riordan was asked to go there by O Toole. O Riordan and his B,and I.C.O. got Connor Cruise O Brien to in act section 31 of the Brodcasting Act,that put OToole and all other Republican/Socialists of the airways,for years,what has Larry got to say about that. Also the B and I.C.O. campaigned against the H Block demands ,some of the things they said can not be forgiven,well I can not forgive them ,then my name is not Larry OToole.So Larry good look to to you and your new friend,this old one is going some place else. As for you Jonah ,I do not know what age you are,but stop kiss arssing and think for yourself.

by tom eile Wed Apr 19, 2006 17:00

Whoever invited Manus O ' Riordan to the launch should have asked Eoghan harris and Ruth Dudley-Edwards along as well . Connolly said Irish partition would lead to a carnival of reaction - three clowns would have been better than one.

by James Watch Wed Apr 19, 2006 16:11

Judging by these comments, interest is growing with each comment!

by James Wed Apr 19, 2006 14:56

The headline states that the launch is gathering interest. The article itself is just a press release, which is fine, but in no way substantiates the claim of the headline. Is there any evidence to back up the claim of the headline and the first line?

by Jonah Wed Apr 19, 2006 13:30

"was at the Sinn Fein book launch on Connollys works,some of the old Sinners told him to fuck off,rigth they were too."

One person remonstrated with Manus O'Riordan telling him he should leave and had no right to be there. Other Sinn Féin members and activists, including Cllr Larry O'Toole who was the main speaker on the night, pointed out that the launch was open to the public and that this was no place for abusing people regardless of political differences.

I think someone apologised to O'Riordan later on.

by swipper watcher watcher Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:19

i dont no, it would be very important to get them unionised, why dnt u write a letter 2 one of the union ask them whats happening. Or are u just searching for an excuse to Swipper bash.
Im watching you swipper watcher.
Your just not watching hard enough

by Swipper Watcher Wed Apr 19, 2006 00:47

Are unions permitted to organise in Cassidy's hotel?

by long time Connollyite Tue Apr 18, 2006 22:18

What could Kieran Allen tell us that ,that great man Desmond C Greaves has not told us,like Allens old book there will not be one new thing about Connolly in it. We will be told Connolly should have lived long enught to join the S.W.P. The next one to write a book on Connolly will be Manus O Riordan,spant all this youth condeming Connolly,now is a born again Connollyite,was at the Sinn Fein book launch on Connollys works,some of the old Sinners told him to fuck off,rigth they were too.

by Kev Tue Apr 18, 2006 16:52

It's a propaganda pamphlet not a book.

Might be good an all that, but it's still just an SWP propaganda pamphlet.