Haughey is seriously ill.

by pat c Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:14

every so often you will hear that haughey is at deaths door. then the next week he will be out yachting or firing a shotgun in west cork to start a race. its a con job. people who are ill and who have fiddled miniscule amounts of money from social welfare are prosecuted and even imprisoned.

the proper place for haughey is in the basement in mountjoy.

by Mick Thu Mar 30, 2006 18:56

When Haughey "croaks" he will have gone to that mysterious hideout in the French mountains along with the crew of Marie Celeste, Marilyn Monroe, JFK, Elvis, Milosevic, Martin Borman and the blood line of Jesus Christ live in blissful privacy.

by iosaf Fri Mar 31, 2006 14:02

pity he didn't have the decency to catch a taxi and drive through Moscow with a Julia in need of introduction. But maybe he'll hang on till Easter and make it historic and catch those floating voters.

How the last death of a FF loveable rogue was reported:-
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/72600

here we go again!

by Sharon - Individual Fri Mar 31, 2006 19:32

.....request that the Lenihan family organise one on our behalf ?

Fair is fair - when Brian Lenihan was poorly , Mr. Haughey organised a collection for him .
He then re-stocked his shirt collection .

Sharon .

by Blaise Fri Mar 31, 2006 20:35

Charlie Haughey is one of the great characters ever on the Irish political scene - and like him or loathe him - our treble Taoiseach cared for the Republic - and went well out of his way to assist our brothers up in the north. The comments on this site have been extremely low class. Even if the poor guy was your lifetime adversary - there is no need to lower yourselves to the gutter by jumping all over the fella while he's at death's door. I have a couple of uncles who worked for him when they were down on their luck and Charlie gave them a job to help their families out. There was a big heart there always - something a lot of you fail to see in this big man. Lord have mercy on his soul.

by Roswell75 - The Froggies Fri Mar 31, 2006 22:22 Roswell75 at yahoo dot co dot uk 24 , rue campo-formio 75013 Paris 087 456 18 23

Well, if you believe this man is someone "Lord" should have mercy for because he helped two of your uncles ... you have the right to but I could say in the same way: "My colleague Isidore is a saint as he paid me a coffee" :)

Someone like this man had power and money, if you want to improve what people are thinking about that man, please provide us with a more proper list of the wonderfull things this man achieved in his life.
Helping two men who were working for him ... a saint !

Someone giving what he doesn't need to people in need is just like most people, not someone generous. When you have 10 times what a normal man have and you give twice more, the normal man is the generous one, not the rich man.

Do not take me wrong, I generally give to people in need, but rarely something I'll need myself.

by blaise Sat Apr 01, 2006 03:10

Rosswel, he most definitely was a saint to the 2 uncles whose families he saved from poverty - 2 men who he was not beholding to for any political favours or such, and yes if you want to santify him, I'll agree, but I was only trying to show his heart - that he had one - despite what a lot of people think. Look around - you'll find good in the strangest places instead of always looking for the negative to remind yourself that you might be right. A little humility goes a long way. The people of Ireland voted him into office 3 times - now maybe you feel they are 3 times stupid - and you are welcome to your beliefs - but it's rare a man so little loved could ever be hired back 3 times by his own people. Give him credit for that alone, if you have nothing else positive to say about the man....

by blaise Sat Apr 01, 2006 03:15

that was 'sanctify' him - excuse my english

Slainte

by northside shopping centre regular Sat Apr 01, 2006 13:04

and sharing his wealth with us common voters, by writing checks for the shopping down at dunnes stores. It was a lovely reminder of the parochial politics which FF inherited from the Irish Home Rule party. & he has my eternal gratitude for that.

by A10 Sun Apr 02, 2006 18:43

When that squireen who lived ,leeched and betrayed,and lied to my generation and the Irish people who were fools enough to vote him again again,and again .I will open a bottle of champane and dance on that bollocks grave!!
We obvisouly havent any rope or any trees around Kinseely manor where he and his corrupt family should have been strung up by their overstuffed necks along time ago.
A man who was involved off his own bat in arms running,and lauded a hero by Irish fools.
A man who was involved in bugging phones of journalists and his opposition.Even the crook Nixion had the decency to go after that in America.Haughy that bastard,stayed.He was applauded by more Irish fools.
While he was wining dining,and whoring with Terry Keane and his lackeys in power.He was telling my generation in the 80s to tighten our belts or fuck off to America or the UK to make money to bring back to his private estate of the Irish republic.While he used the AIB and the health services for his personal piggybank to pay for damaged yachts or islands or projects to add wind power his blasket island home,or buy race horses or live like an landlord of the kind in Irish history describes.Or support his sons toy helicopter company.And more Irish fools applauded and supported him.
Oh sure,he did "great things"like buy somones shopping and give old folks free travel and pensions,now not worth a tinkers curse anymore.
This parasite should be buried by his family they are filthy rich anyway,and can afford it ,not the Irish people.If there is a state funeral I hope the Irish people would have the decency to turn their backs on the hearse as it passes by.He deserves no better.May he join the ranks of other dictators in the darkest reigons of Hell.

by blaise Sun Apr 02, 2006 20:30

Nobody gives a tinker's fuck what you think of him A10 - and the Irish people will give him a state funeral - befitting the large character that he is - was - in Irish politics - and more power to him for his gun-running to our brothers up north - move to South America if you want to see a real dictator - mr loose words - all politics is corrupt or hadn't you noticed - only naive imbiciles like you would defile a great character like Charlie - tis you we will turn our backs on....

by A10 Sun Apr 02, 2006 22:30

about Irish idiots!!Wake the fuck up yourself.No one gives a fiddley fuck about 32 country unity under whomever anymore.It is run by Europe nowadays,in case you hadnt noticed.I hope that crooks worthless cadaver is dug up pissed and shat upon by the people of Ireland.Those who know a crooked,squireen gombeen man when they saw one.May he rot in Hell along with all Irish"patriots" and IRA mudering bastard scum.

by blaise Mon Apr 03, 2006 00:18

the only cadaver worth pissing on is that walking heathen cadaver up North, the one whose name is synonymous with 60's shirts - the brainless wonder who must be pleased as punch to have a messenger like you railing against a real patriot. Oh, I wasn't aware - have the prods up there adopted the Euro, because our brothers will soon when they are released from the Queen's guard. Yes, we are part of Europe, a nation, a country, and it is called Ireland....pass that on to Paisley when you get up to it....

by A10 Mon Apr 03, 2006 22:25

Are you ranting on about now Blaise???What has Paisley got to do with Haughey?Apart from being just as much of a scoundrel.Which I belive George Bernard Shaw said about patriots,namely it being the last refuge of the scoundrel.
Not only that you just prove your Irish ignorance and republican bigtory in assuming I am a NI proddie.Do you have to learn to be such an ignoramus or does it just come naturally??

by blaise Tue Apr 04, 2006 03:23

Nobody accused you of being a ' NI proddie' - but your attack on a true patriot who loves his country - would have been loved by Paisley - that's all I alluded to. You obviously have items with Charlie and we will get nowhere railing against each other's position - so let it rest. Leave George Bernard out of this equation. He's from another era and didn't like his home country much either. I do like some of his lines though, the most memorable to me when Shaw was travelling by train from London to Manchester a passenger beside him said 'Isn't the English countryside beautiful' to which GBS replied 'Yes it is - pity they don't know how to cook it.'

by pat c Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:32

"Which I belive George Bernard Shaw said about patriots,namely it being the last refuge of the scoundrel."

No! Dr Samuel Johnson said that patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels. He also said: "the Irish are a very fair people: they never speak well of each other".

by update Fri Apr 07, 2006 22:18

CJ Haughey has been discharged from hospital.
There will be no blood sacrifice or dramatic death for this year's Easter Rising / Good Friday bollox.
But RTE has learnt that though Mr Haughey has recovered from pneumonia, ( & Thus is more susceptible to H5N1 bird flu' which has been ruled out of the suspicious Swan deaths on the Bann river yesterday) he has been suffering from prostrate cancer for the last few years.

Still..... you'd expect a personal intimate detail like that to get onto RTE news wouldn't you?
But they (for some reason) didn't stick it in the news-caster's mouth tonight.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0407/haugheyc.html

by blaise Sat Apr 08, 2006 06:01

great to hear that rumours of his demise have been greatly exagerated - another Easter with Charlie - no better man - count your eggs - blessed - no need for RTE to give intimate details of the Taoseach's personal medical condition - let each man suffer in privacy - nice of the broadcaster to avoid - best wishes to his family.... too much animosity in the world to get worked up - over something you didn't like about him in the past - there is good and bad in every man - character is what matters - and the man has character in spades..our three times Lazarus lives again....up for the bell...ready to battle again...

by A10 Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:11

Hmmm,well I would consider a true patriot one who leads from the front,does his job within his capabilities,and within his wage packet,not lines his or his cronies pockets while in office.Is honest with the preople that elected him,and if he is caught with his pants down admits and resigns with good grace.If the people think he is so wonderful they will elect him back.
BTW he wasnt too hot on looking after the"comrades"up in NI either.Who signed the first extradition treaty with Thatcher and the UK???Hate to say it Maggie Thatcher was more patriotic than Haughey's little toe.
At least you knew where you stood with her on any issue.
All in all CJH just stands out in a long line of crooks,gombeen men,incompentants,general bogmen,plain village idiots,religious nutters,and other waste of space in the gene pool that have pouplated Dail Eireinn since the states foundation.Maybe one day we will actually get somone in there that is a true patriot,and is more concerned about the country and not big busisness,making money and other mundane shite.

by overseas information Sat Apr 08, 2006 14:11

It seems wikipedia missed it too.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_News:_Nine_O'Clock only one liason being referred to as a rumour. The relationship between RTE (The irish state TV) News program and the regime has been a close one on more than one ocassion.
But Ireland is like that. Behind the Bong + Boing + of piety at the 6pm daily Angelus one minute call to prayer, there are dark secrets.....
Too dark to get on to an indymedia page.
But you can use your imagination.
In fact ireland is the sort of country that were it not for its peace process (and dinky music and dancing) would have the reputation for being so slimey and corrupt, it would most certainly not be the sort of place to send your kids to learn english or how to shoplift.

by - Sat Apr 08, 2006 14:42

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detail of St. Teresa in ecstatic contemplation of the divine mysteries

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by blaise Sat Apr 08, 2006 19:59

Overseas, tell me one county in the world which is not secretly or overtly linked with its major broadcaster, please, there are no examples, so what's the big deal. There is no secret. It's all quite normal and it's not about to change. Maybe on some far away independent island you might find some government run by a bunch of hippies where the national broadcaster operates a ham radio or something - there - maybe you would find no coersion between government and the media - but I would even doubt its success there. Believe me, nothing to get worked up about.

by overseas Sat Apr 08, 2006 21:11

bong + boing +

Monica Lewinsky natal chart 23/7/73 : 12h21 Pacific Time : position 37ºNorth47' 122ºWest25'

by smirk Mon May 08, 2006 21:40

It turns out that Mr Haughey had no chance, his dodgey and defective genes probably damned him to suffer Prostate cancer. & according to the popular english "daily mail" he shares this predestination with many Africans, but of course most Africans don't live till over 80 so they don't really worry about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/h...=1774
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=42950
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/roundups/article_116...undup

the discovery made in Iceland, with whom under the FF/PD regime, Ireland has invested lots and lots of taxpayers money. Money well spent. We must now move to legislate to ensure that carriers of the Charles J Haughey gene be disallowed from breeding. We call that science and eugenics. Of course some of you will probably be against that. The very same people who don't think there is any problem with minister of health carrying the obesity-mental retardation-delayed puberty-macroorchidism-acanthosis nigricans-hyperinsulinemia syndrome gene and freely breeding with anyone and condeming their kids to a sofa-bound life of watching TV...

this is irony. this is supposed to highlight why understaning our genes and DNA will not really help us at all. because we really are just monkeys in a garden. http://www.greatapeproject.org/

by blaise Tue May 09, 2006 15:54

listen Mr Smirkey - your inane childishness - mocking a man with a disease - tis your genes which should be cast into the Irish Sea - better still the English Channel - why pollute our namesake with your genepool. Leave the great man alone. You are welcome to your political beliefs but to talk that smut talk you talk is quite classless. Wake up little man - Charlie wouldn't have the time of day for you, nor should he. What kind of a little mind attacks an 80 year man who is in bad health, who has led our country 3 times, 3 times pal, 3 times the citizens of Ireland voted him in. Obviously that fact bothers you immensely, but that's the fact. Leave well enough alone. Your filtry diatribe goes well with that other blogger who wished to dance on his grave. Jealous ingrates the lot of you.

by pat c Tue May 09, 2006 16:01

"listen Mr Smirkey - your inane childishness - mocking a man with a disease "

eh, dont forget, haughey robbed money from a man with a disease. when brian lenihan needed a liver transplant, FF were fundraising for him. haughey trousered about £20,000 that was given to him for the lenihan fund.

and dont forget the sick and old who suffered and died due to the haughey health cutbacks. mock haughey?! i hope he dies in agony. it would some payback for all the suffering he caused. why dont the CAB seize haugeys assets?

by blaise Tue May 09, 2006 16:47

you've got the great leader pocketing liver transplant fund money, causing poor oldfellas to die, and to boot, you wish Charlie dies in agony so you can dance on his grave, well if that's not inane childishness on your parts - then what is? Consider yourself lucky you have had a great character as Taoiseach thrice, otherwise you would have very little to rant about. By the way, Charlie did manage to raise the funds needed for Lenihan's liver transplant from the well healed Fianna Fail ranks - so what if the excess went into his trousers - what's the big deal? Didn't he raise the money for the transplant, nit picker? Maybe he needed a bit extra for the gun running episode. All mothers of large families have one son like him, and they love them, for their largesse and their character, which Charlie has in abundance, for better or for worse, like Ireland has loved him, despite the protestations herein.

by smirk Tue May 09, 2006 20:50

he called me a little rascal and he used to send my Ma a christmas card every year. I phoned him up when one of the FF cabinet members (a man he had introduced to politics) owed me 50quid for providing the music for a funeral. The widow had checked the bill and the 50 quid went to the funeral home. I never got the 50 quid and had only asked for 20quid in any case. My Ma stopped getting christmas cards. The widow had a weekly pension of less than 50 quid. Fuck him & all who backed him and came to power as his successors. The moment he dies I'll write an obituary and respectfully keep silence for we must not speak ill of the dead, but he's still living - past his life expectancy, more than double of most born with the cancer of the prostate gene. He's fair game. Keep it up Charlie! there's years left for abusing you, you thieving corrupt spawn of satan consort to widow robbers!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant rant

by blaise Wed May 10, 2006 04:49

hey Smirk - what is this? Dickens 101 with your 50 quid hard luck story - and from that you have the right to spew out phelgm - your little personal problem should be kept to yourself - not even the back pages of the Mirror. If you were hard done by, I feel for you - but the case hasn't been presented properly from both sides - all we have here is a big sore spot you harbour for Charlie. Obviously he has enemies, of which you sound like one, but he has a great many friends and a lot of people who believe he did genunely good deads as well. Ranting over spilled milk will not help the situation.