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Worldwide 'cartoon' uproar

category international | rights, freedoms and repression | press release author Wednesday February 08, 2006 22:49author by cwi Report this post to the editors

Build a united workers’ movement to fight divisions and capitalism

The angry worldwide Muslim protests against the publication of cartoons depicting Muhammad in various European newspapers have shown again the enormous anger provoked amongst Muslims by Bush’s “war on terror” and the invasion of Iraq. However the issue that has sparked off these protests and their character has renewed discussion about a war of civilisations or of cultures. These developments are a sharp warning of the divisive tensions can develop in the absence of a strong socialist workers’ movement offering a class alternative

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Worldwide 'cartoon' uproar

Build a united workers’ movement to fight divisions and capitalism

Robert Bechert, CWI, Tuesday 7 February 2006
The angry worldwide Muslim protests against the publication of cartoons depicting Muhammad in various European newspapers have shown again the enormous anger provoked amongst Muslims by Bush’s “war on terror” and the invasion of Iraq. However the issue that has sparked off these protests and their character has renewed discussion about a war of civilisations or of cultures. These developments are a sharp warning of the divisive tensions can develop in the absence of a strong socialist workers’ movement offering a class alternative.

Millions of Muslims, embittered by the western imperialist powers’ policies, have seen these cartoons as the latest in a long series of provocations and aggressive acts, not least the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and the toleration of Israel’s settling of more and more Palestinian land in the West Bank. In a number of Arab countries the protests have taken on at least a partial anti-imperialist character, although it appears that the Syrian regime has, for its own interests, used the protests to give a warning to the west and at the same time reassert its interests in the Lebanon. In European countries, including Britain, there is also a groundswell of resentment amongst Muslims against a perceived increase in anti-Islamic feelings, greater police surveillance and harassment.

In Denmark, where the cartoons were first provocatively published in a right wing paper, many Muslims feel threatened by a series of special tough anti-immigrant laws have been passed since 2001 by the Rasmussen government. This government, which depends upon support from the far right Danish People’s Party, has banned immigrants under the age of 24 from marrying and also taken the right to exclude from Denmark the husbands or wives of Danes who are not citizens of an EU country. At the same time the Danish government is one of the strongest supporters of Bush’s policies and has sent troops to Iraq.

Faced with what they see as a continuous campaign of vilification in the media and increasing harassment many Muslims have protested against the publication of these cartoons. The fact that it has been mainly right wing journals which have republished them is seen as confirmation that there is a deeper right wing political agenda.

However the character of some of these protests, coming after a series of terrorist attacks on western civilian targets, has reinforced the tendency of deepening divisions between Muslims and non-Muslims in a number of countries. In Britain the extremely sectarian religious placards threatening “death” to non-Muslims carried on the small February 3 protest in London can deepen racial and religious divisions as well as providing the government with arguments to justify its authoritarian and anti-terror laws. This is in a situation where already there are European wide pressures and tensions produced by the transfer of jobs and forced migration resulting from the effects of capitalist globalisation and the bosses’ ongoing neo-liberal offensive.

From all sides opportunists, religious sectarians and racists have jumped in to exploit the situation. In Arab countries right wing Islamic religious leaders are taking the opportunity to reinforce their claim to be leading the opposition to imperialism and also strengthen their grip on society. The official attempts to calm down the situation may have an effect in the days ahead but the underlying tensions will not be removed by soothing words and appeals to reason.

What has been absent in the last few days has been a powerful socialist voice that can independently intervene in this situation and prevent its exploitation by religious sectarians or racists. Unfortunately this is not surprising given today’s political weakness of the workers’ movement in many countries. But, unless the workers’ movement internationally can offer a way out, the next period of social crisis could see societies being torn by a myriad of divisions involving religious, ethnic and national conflicts.

What then should be the socialist response to the current wave of protests and the attempt of conservative and some right wing Christian political leaders to claim that they are defending free speech?

Firstly socialists stand completely opposed to the oppression based on religion, race, nationality, gender or sexual orientation and socialists support the right of the oppressed to defend themselves. We work to build a united movement of working people to fight oppression, capitalism and start to create a socialist future.

This means opposing the production of any material that is used to create or deepen religious, ethnic, national or sexual divisions. This includes countering the continuous anti-immigrant racist propaganda or sub-tone that can be seen in parts of the mass media in almost every European country.

At the same time it has always been the workers’ movement that has been in the forefront of the struggle to win and defend democratic rights, including free expression and the right to vote. While opposing the production of racist or fascist material socialists defend the right to make criticism, even sarcastic criticism. The same cannot be said for the main established religions that have all, at various times, stamped upon the free expression of ideas.

The attempt to say in Europe and the USA that what is developing is a clash of civilisations, between Christianity and Islam, with Christianity representing freedom is completely false. For the majority of their existence the tops of all the established Christian churches were quite happy to be part of the elites running dictatorial societies. As even the Financial Times commented “The ‘Christian’ west won through to modernity in the teeth of clerical reaction.” The millions killed in warfare between different Christian denominations, the Inquisition, slavery, the slaughter of native Americans and the original witch-hunts are just a few of the historic crimes of the leaders of the Christian churches.

But this is not just the case with the Christian churches, leaders of the other main established religions have played a similar roles, whether it be Jewish religious leaders justifying the expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland on the grounds that God gave the land of Israel to the Jews or prominent Buddhists being in the forefront of the attacks on Tamil Hindus in Sri Lanka.

While the western media make frequent references to Islamic fundamentalists, Islam is not by any means alone in having extreme fundamentalists within its following. Pat Robertson, one of Bush’s favourite evangelists, said last month that Ariel Sharon’s stroke was God’s punishment for withdrawing Israeli settlers from Gaza, last year Robertson had called for the assassination of Venezuela’s radical president Hugo Chavez. In India Hindu fundamentalists have repeatedly led attacks on the Muslim minority, like the 1992 destruction of the mosque in Ayodhya or the 2002 Gujarat clashes.

Socialists oppose all racist, religious or sexist attempts to sow divisions, advocate workers’ action against such attempts and strive to achieve a united struggle of working people against oppression and capitalism.

Socialists defend the rights of both non-believers and believers, regarding faith as a personal issue and see no problem in believers and non-believers struggling alongside each other in the workers’ movement. On the contrary Socialists strive to unite all working people in common, collective struggle. But, by the same token, seeing faith as a personal issue means that Socialists support the complete separation of church from state, the right to polemicise against religion and oppose the attempts of any religion to dictate to other religions or non-believers.

We defend the democratic rights of all, non-believers and believers, to express their views. This includes the right to produce anti-religious material, whether it is philosophical or satirical. This is why Socialists opposed the attempts of Christian fundamentalists to ban the “Jerry Springer” musical and the 2004 attacks by some Sikhs on the performance of the play Behzti in Birmingham.

Socialists resist all attempts to stigmatise Muslims but at the same time combat the attacks of vicious Islamic reactionaries against gays and the rights of women. Equally we oppose the anti-Semitic material produced under the guise of opposing Israeli policy in many Arab countries. Most of the Islamic states that have protested against the Danish cartoons are dictatorial regimes with brutal histories of oppressing their own populations.

Today, a critical task before the workers’ movement is to prevent divisions amongst working people blocking and cutting across united struggles. This means opposing repression, defending democratic rights while striving to build a unified movement that can challenge capitalism and fights for a socialist future.

From The Socialist, paper of the Socialist Party, cwi in England and Wales

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author by Con Carrollpublication date Fri Feb 10, 2006 17:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

red pepper February edition
English left magazine
names british diplomat involved in torture of Pakistan people living in Athens.
accusing them of been involved in the bombings in London.
he is Nicholas Longman M16 British embassy Athens

author by Mikepublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'm amazed at how people are actually being killed out there over a cartoon published on a piece of paper. Muslims are too sensitive to even cartoons. They need to realise that the media is entitled to publish this as part of freedom of speech. I mean over a cartoon....Where's their sense of humour?

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

a good position which defends democratic rights and also defends muslims rights, but not the right of islamic religious police to censor the media.

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well, to place it in context, if the Belfast Telegragh ran twelve cartoons about Bobby Sands teaching schoolkids the merits of 'Extreme Dieting,' or maybe have him being sodimized by a dildo-wearing Margaret Thather with the caption 'you really need to put some more meat on my dear boy, I'm hitting bone here,' would the argument 'where's your sense of humour' cut any ice? Is that an acceptable form of free speech, or is it simply insulting? The Mohammod cartoons are offensive to Millions of people worldwide, and are produced at a time when Islam as a belief system is under attack both from outside forces (Industrial/military complex that needs a bogeyman now that the Damn Ruskies are gone), and from its own militants who have completely hijacked this issue and made it their own. And if there's one thing that Indymedia contributors should sympathise with is the ability of militants to hijack issues. This whole thing is being paraded as a 'clash of civilsations', and while there is substance to that the clash is at the cultural practise in the West of giving a human face to God/Christ, something that does not exist in Islam, or Judaism for that matter. The twelve cartoonists, whether they meant to or not, have simply created ammo for the militants on both sides. That wasn't an expression of free speech, that was bad judgement.

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i would be annoyed by such a caricture of bobby sands but i wouldnt go on a jihad.

the cartoons were fair, mohammed was a lecherous pedophile rapist imperialist terrorist. he had a child bride, lots of young wifes, concubine slaves, he spread his religion at the point of a sword.

so its fair to cariciture him. theres no historical record of him indulging in bestiality (though his sayings do betray a fondness for camels) si i would not support cartoons of that type.

NO gods!

NO masters!

author by eeekkkkkkpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

What if it had been published the day after he died? In the Daily Mail?
Pat?

I wonder.

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I wouldn't expect anyone to go on a jihad over a cartoon, but the war's not on up North at the moment. I seem to recall George Sewright getting a bullet in the head after he called for concentration camps for Catholics. Was that free speech? If the bombs were still going off, would the Belfast Telegraph get away with a pat on the head if it did run insulting cartoons in, say, 1981? I don't want to get into chasing analogies here, I mean, it is only for use as an example, but in this current atmosphere to run such cartoons is to take sides. The merits of free speech or whether religon is all hocus pocus are all well and good, but there is a war going on. At this time, in this world-wide atmosphere, those cartoons are a bad call. Free speech, like religion, is not omnipotent.

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 15:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

oh in that i case i would have.

as it is i along with many others did our best to get to the brit embassy and burn it.

but if we had been reacting against such a cartoon it would have been for political reasons. not because we thought the prophet was great or suuch nonsense.

forget about the cartoons. what about the sharia law?

how many women & gays have been stoned to death since this controversy started? we'll never know.

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

seawright called for the incineration of catholics. a bit different from just cartoons. anyway he was associated with the uvf. he turned up at the opening of the whiterock leisure centre wiith 2 uvf men because there was a tricolour on it. theres pictures of him, frenchy marchant and budgie allen waving guns.

it was a bit like the opening of king tuts tomb. before long all 3 of them had been offed by republicans.

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

What you're talking about here is the separation of Church and State, but that idea is very much in its infancy in the Middle East. Religion IS politics. That's why to insult Mohammad is a political act. Now, that shouldn't be, but it is.

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

this is ireland. ireland is not in the middle east. sharia law doesnt rule here. the catholic church ruled here for long enough.

but you are not eactly helping secular muslims or atheist and agnostic "muslims" by bowing down before islamic fanaticism.

author by Dublinfidelpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

\"maybe have him being sodimized by a dildo-wearing Margaret Thather\"

Frank, that\'s an interesting choice of imagery to get the faithful furious.
The significant issue about these 12 cartoons is their innocuousness, even the \'bomb-in-the-turban\' image is astonishingly mild and tame.

There are, however, three additional cartoons doing the rounds of Jihadland.
Their origins are a little vague, but the Danish imams who brought the cartoons to the attention
of the wider Muslim world were touting them around as evidence of Islamophobia in the West.

Why would Muslims want to create further and obvious divisions between Islam and the West?

swedishcartoon.jpg

bogusmohammedcartoon.jpg

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Saying that people shouldn't be offended or that the images to our eyes look harmless is hardly an analysis of WHY they are offensive. That's still up there with 'sure it's only a bit of craic.' As for bowing down to the mullas, those cartoons played straight into their arms. To them it's 'further evidence' and a rallying point. They have not created room for debate, just stifled it. As I said, a bad judgement call on the part of the cartoonists.

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

By the way, that second image depicts the spokesman as a pig, the filthiest of animals.

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

its an appalling image. its not in any way identifiablle as momser, it could be any muslim. to portray any ordinary muslim as a pig is imho offensive.

but who produced it? its not one of the original 12. it seems possible that the reactionary imams produced this image.

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It's possible that it was created by the militants, it is certainly highly offensive, but can I just ask something a bit more general about this issue? My understanding of libertarianism/anarchism is that the individual accepts responsibility for his/her actions. There is no higher power to hide under. The cartoonists set out to mock, and in doing so must have expected a reaction. Now, when that reaction came, the response they wanted (if not expected in its ferocity), they drop all responsibilty and claim it's a 'freedom of speech' issue. Surely the cartoonists have responsibilities here. No?

author by pat cpublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 16:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i am defending general principles here. i might not think its such a good idea to publish such a cartoon, but when its done...

you have to defend democracy against religious obscurantism.

if the cartoopns can be banned then why not the life of brian?

i believe i have the right to mock religion in any way i want. i may not always choose to exercise that right.

but i am now tempted to do a cartoon of momser stoning a woman to death or stoning gays to death. but to many muslims the only thing offensive about that would be the portrayal of the "prophet".

author by Frank Grimespublication date Sat Feb 11, 2006 17:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The pig picture is a fake! For the full story, see the link.

photocopy doing the rounds
photocopy doing the rounds

original
original

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author by Objective Readerpublication date Thu Dec 06, 2007 19:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The cartoons were published in Jyllands-Posten (The Jutland Post) a newspaper that has been criticized for its reporting on immigrants. In 2002, the Danish Council of the Press criticized the paper for breaching the Councils guidelines on racism in an article on three Somalis charged with a crime. The European Network Against Racism concluded that 212 out of 382 articles by Jyllands-Posten were negative.

Flemming Rose, the culture editor of Jyllands-Posten said "The cartoonists treated Islam the same way they treat Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and other religions. And by treating Muslims in Denmark as equals they made a point: We are integrating you into the Danish tradition of satire because you are part of our society, not strangers. The cartoons are including, rather than excluding, Muslims."

However, in 2003, the very same paper rejected cartoons which depicted Christ - an interesting contrast to what Flemming Rose said. Clearly these cartoons were meant as a provocation, an insult.

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