Ex - UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan leaks torture documents.

by eeekkkk Sat Dec 31, 2005 01:05

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901585.html

by T Sat Dec 31, 2005 02:33

No, there are no limits to what these monsters will and can do. We should think of these people in terms of the Nazi administration back in the mid to late 1930s, when they planned their exterminations and the famous 1942 meeting, where the high level designs for the gas chambers were drawn up.

These people in power today are their contemparies except the technology at their disposal is even more frightening and the scope of what they want to do is probably much larger.

As Peak Oil is now upon us, in order for the top layer to continue using the same relative level of resources it means others will have to use less and this means only one thing and that is demand destruction. Now it's not clear what form that will take exactly, but the behaviour of these people does not bode well.

For example we know they have developed microwave beam crowd control weapons. These have already been built and tested and are clearly documented. When the times comes, have no doubt these sort of things will be used on the people. There's a possibility that has already happened in Iraq. There are of course many other things too, but that serves as a good example of the barbaric nature of the system at it's core.

We should not be fooled either by particular individuals, because we know once the current structure remains in place, it would make no difference if the entire top layer died tomorrow, as the system itself and the hierarchical nature of power and the way it structurally grants it to those at the top ensures that a new layer of people would be replaced tomorrow and would act just as viciously.

by Tommy Donnellan Sat Dec 31, 2005 02:33

Alright 'eeekkk', you've done the business with the WaPo link. fair play!.

In Afghanistan, the largest CIA covert prison is code-named the Salt Pit, at centre left, above.

by Historia Sun Jan 01, 2006 01:55

Tsk!, tsk!, tsk!, don't yez know lads that "at bottom" the Yanks have "justice on their side" as evidenced by Theodore Roosevelt in his 'The Winning of the West' (New York, 1889) : For the sake of "mankind" and "civilization," this pilgrim wrote, it was "all important" that North America be won by a "masterful people." Although for the indigenous population this meant "the infliction and suffering of hideous woe and misery ... the world would probably not have gone forward at all, had it not been for the displacement or submersion of savage and barbaric peoples ...the settler and pioneer have at bottom justice on their side; this great continent could not have been kept as nothing but a game preserve for squalid savages."

And as Norman G. Finkelstein says in the introduction (P. 15) of his recently published, 'Beyond Chutzpah, on the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History' ; "In fact, one isn't even allowed to remember that Roosevelt said them (the poisonous remarks quoted above); one searches recent Roosevelt biographies in vain for any mention of the pronouncements of his just cited, or scores of others like them pervading his published writings and correspondence".

by ribbid Wed Jan 04, 2006 00:23

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