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Thursday January 01 1970

Fascist to Speak In Trinity on Thursday 5/11/05

category dublin | crime and justice | event notice author Wednesday November 09, 2005 22:14author by Mártan - Sinn Féin Report this post to the editors

Anjem Choudary: The leader of Al Muhajiroun in the UK.

Next Meeting Of The Phil


Islamic Fundamentalism
Thursday, 10 November 2005 at 7:30pm in the GMB

"This house believes that 9/11 was a legitimate form of resistance of American pressure to the Islamic world."
The Phil's Annual Islamic Debate, which in past years has highly controversial/interesting.
Musleh Faradhi:President of the Islamic Forum
Mohamed Ali:Chief Executive of Islamic Channel.
Yvonne Ridley:Political Editor of Islamic Channel.
Ian O’Doherty:Columnist with Irish Independent.
Anjem Choudary: The leader of Al Muhajiroun in the UK

Can I take that there will be a protest? No platform for Fascists?

Related Link: http://www.tcdphil.com/news.php
author by Noelpublication date Sun Nov 13, 2005 00:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I think that there are some people who would view Ireland as a legitimate target for an attack because the Irish are infidels.

Anyone else want to say it also.

author by Seditious O'Brienpublication date Sat Nov 12, 2005 21:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is what the man said, I don't know what he really thinks. Nor I am defending him.

There are some people who would view Ireland as a legitmate target for an attack because of the Shannon stopover taking troops and Iraq.

So I am saying it.

I think that there are some people who would view Ireland as a legitmate target for an attack because of the Shannon stopover taking troops and Iraq.

Anyone else want to say it also.

author by Tim Mahonypublication date Sat Nov 12, 2005 20:59author email timmahony at eircom dot netauthor address Dublinauthor phone Report this post to the editors

In my opinion, I think there should be no doubt that the speech that Mr Chorduary gave in Trinity College, Dublin was intent on inciting hatred against the Irish people. The Irish didn't actually send troops to any of these muslim countries whilst they were been invaded. Judging by the way he addressed his speech, Mr Chorduary seems to think that any non-muslim deserves to die as he clearly described Ireland as a 'legitimate' terrorist target yesterday. Really, extremists like him should have been banned from giving speeches like that that incite hatred. The Gardai are said to be 'investigating' his comments but I would imagine that he has left the country by now...

author by randomlad123publication date Sat Nov 12, 2005 00:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well isn’t it better to talk to the nutjobs rather than pretend they don’t exist. I commend the Phil for debating such a controversial topic.

author by anarchyvistpublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 17:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I see Mangel is speaking in TCD after Christmas as well! Busy times ahead...

author by offendedpublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 15:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

5/11/05 was last week, and this is an event.

anyway couldn't Mc Dowell put an exclusion order the way he attempted to do on a L&H debate (don't remember which one in the last years) and at the last minute had to relent and let in the "muslim spokesperson". And who takes the phil seriously anyway?

author by oikpublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 13:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Muhajiroun
and transcript of a BBC documentary on the group
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3670007.stm

author by Curiouspublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 13:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Al Muhajiroun disbanded?
Interesting to see Yvonne Ridley on the platform, guess that means we won't see ANL at the gates at least.

author by Michael R.publication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 13:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Re: "truth be told".

Agree with your comments (though not the tone of it)

Except for one point however:-

"The Hyprocrisy of this place is is disgusting!!!!"

Assuming you mean this place as in Indymedia - should you not restate it as "the hypocrisy of some people in this place is disgusting"?

Regards,

author by Terrypublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The question is which is that representative, who are you talking about and what do they stand for?
I happen to know which one - but not everyone does - so some people ask questions in order to be better informed.

author by truth be toldpublication date Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A major ruckus is caused if a bunch of wannabe Hitlers is so much as mooted as being allowed to speak about a defunct political system that was defeated 60 years ago.All and sundry are screaming no platform for Fascists.Yet when a repesentative of a muderous ,medieval thuggish regime that gives no respect to our society and insits we should all be destroyed as w dont subscribe to its version of a true "god".We all bow and scrape to allow "fee speech" to such a creature.
The Hyprocrisy of this place is is disgusting!!!!

author by Anthonypublication date Wed Nov 09, 2005 23:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Lazy "reporting" there. No mention of which speaker is supposed to be the fascist. Before crying fascist (a very serious term which shouldn't be used lightly), evidence should be provided to show how the speaker in question is a fascist.

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