90th commemoration of 1916 youth committee

by Seán MacRuadhán Sat Oct 08, 2005 13:38

If this event is "open to all parties", then why did the Republican Socialist Youth Movement receive an email from Ronan Harte of the Connolly Youth Movement stating that -

"The IRSP/RSYM has not been invited to this saturdays meeting.The meeting has been called by the Connolly Youth Movement and we reserve the right to refuse entery.

This is an inaugral meeting of the youth commitee and is an invite only gathering of youth organisations and their individual members."?

Ronan Harte then called upon the INLA to disband before the CYM and CPI would collaborate politically with the RSYM and IRSP, to be honest, I found this to be quite contradictory considering the 1916 rising was an act of the Irish people bearing arms against imperialism, something which they still do today and which the proclaimation claims is a "fundamental right". The IRSP has consistently affirmed that the INLA will not disband. I replied to such a statement with -

“The Irish National Liberation Army will not disband unless such is democratically decided by the membership of the Irish Republican Socialist Party, the organisation to which the Irish National Liberation Army is under the direct control of and is subordinate to as outlined in the 'Ta Power document'…“

This ultimately can be viewed as the CPI and CYM not wanting the Republican Socialist Movement to attend the inaugural meeting of ‘Rising youth’, the reasons for which have not been presented by the CPI and CYM, but at the minute, it looks like no reason other than raw political sectarianism.

by fianna Sat Oct 08, 2005 14:48

I presume members of Fianna Eireann would be refused entry on the same grounds . I shudder to think what these peoples definition of republicanism is . Presumably its one which doesnt include any actual republicans or the youth organisations they belong to.

Maybe they could define how progressive it is to be barring entry to republican youth .

by Tj - RSYM Sat Oct 08, 2005 17:33 tj at irsm dot org 392 Falls Road, Belfast Ireland

Could the CYM confirm and explain why the RSYM was rejected from attending this event, despite this release now stating that "This meeting will be open to all interested parties"?

This is an absurd contradiction - how can the CYM commemorate the Easter Rising while demanding that participants disarm the working class? Raising the demands of imperialism is never a progressive option and an absurdity given the context.

by John - IRSP Sat Oct 08, 2005 23:58

This is a disgace and shows the level of political sectarianism that is continually directed at our movement from some sections of the irrelivent left. While groups such as the RYSM have just been formed and are attracting youth from throughout Ireland the exclusion by CYM shows just how out of touch certain groups within the left are. How dare they put a precondition of the INLA disbanding.

Infact the Communist Party recently met with the IRSP.

Are CYM now going to divorce their parents?

CYM are a disgrace.
Forward with the RSYM!

by squig - RSM FORUM MODERATOR Sun Oct 09, 2005 14:12

How can these people call themsleves republican when they try and pick and chose who can attend their meetings . They should hand their heads in SHAME , what have they ever done to unite our country ?

squig

by John Sun Oct 09, 2005 15:33

Didn't members of the IRSP and CPI recently attend the Camp Havana in Donegal? Apparently the CPI members present didn't lock the doors when the IRSP members approached!

Shame on the CYM

by oktober17 Sun Oct 09, 2005 16:01

These people dare to call themselves 'the Connolly Youth Movement'?

Well I think it's time to set them straight!

James Connolly argued that the Working Class of Ireland had a right to defend themselves against imperialism and capitalism, the conditions which led him to that conclusion have not changed!
Today the workers in Ireland are not free from the chains of capitalism or imperialism and the task of building the Socialist Republic is still ongoing. When it comes to the crunch and the mass of the working class call for the present system to go, the establishment will not hand over power, it will have to be taken from them by force.
This is why we need a military wing. The INLA is the vanguard of the working class in Ireland, THERE IS NO OTHER!

An extract from Seamus Costello's 1966 Bodenstown speech;
The lesson of history shows that in the final analysis the robber baron must be dis-established by the same methods that he used to enrich himself and retain his ill-gotten gains, namely, force of arms. To this end we must organise, train, and maintain a disciplined armed force which will always be available to strike at the opportune moment.


- Nora Connolly, daughter of James Connolly, speaking of Seamus Costello shortly after his assassination.

"Of all the politicians and political people with whom I have had conversations, and who called themselves followers of Connolly, he was the only one who truly understood what James Connolly meant when he spoke of his vision of the freedom of the Irish people."



We are followers of Costello and Connolly, and those who don't understand the need for the working class to be armed, should not call themselves communist!
Those who argue that we can reform capitalism out of existance are ABUSING the name of James Connolly!

Shame on you!

by Dublin John Sun Oct 09, 2005 22:59

Members of Dublin IRSP attended there miniscule gathering on Saturday in the teachers club, there was nothing to write home about, never mind anyone to chalenge on exclusion matters, as no one from the cpi was willing to comment when personally challenged. Then again there was so few of them there, you would have a better chance of finding a snow-ball in hell.

by Nick Tue Oct 11, 2005 19:15

It was my fault, and mine alone. I was unaware that the preliminary meeting was invite only.

Sorry guys.