Who Were The Latest Tel Aviv Bombing Victims? -- Ha'aretz

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Wednesday March 02, 2005 11:26

by Tsahar Rotem, Yuval Azoulay & Eli Ashkenazi - Ha'aretz newspaper, Israel

"Israel Orbach delivered a fiery eulogy, [*PROUDLY*] explaining that he had served in the same unit as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon[!] and Mossad chief Meir Dagan[!]."

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/545685.html

Ha'aretz
February 28, 2005

"Tearful comrades-in-arms bid farewell to bombing victims"
- by Tsahar Rotem, Yuval Azoulay and Eli Ashkenazi

Excerpts from story - *MILITARY IDF* victims:

"Israel Orbach delivered a fiery eulogy, [*PROUDLY*] explaining that he had served in the same unit as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon[!] and Mossad chief Meir Dagan[!]."

"The tough reservists from reserve Company "B," who lost four of their friends in the suicide bombing on Tel Aviv's promenade"

"Shamir Shushan, who joined the reserve company some eight years ago, remembered Rubenov as the "engine" that kept the company together"

""As far as we are concerned, the families of those killed are now part of the [IDF] company"

[I'd bet that most of the Tel Aviv disco victims were in the Israeli military, as they would have been of military service age. I'd tell Israelis exactly what Israel tells the Palestinians: Don't put your *combatants* - or your racist colonialist armed-to-the-teeth *MILITARIZED* apartheid state - around your civilians!

You know, the *Paletinians* that Israel kills - most of them *civilians* - all have families, friends, and life stories too!]

Aryeh Nagar, 36: "His friends described him as being very devoted to the army"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/545198.html

Ronen Rubenov, 28: "had come to the Stage club for a surprise party for a friend from reserves."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/545199.html

Itzik Buzaglo, 40: "was planning to meet friends from Itzik's reserve unit."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/545200.html

Yael Orbach, 28: "Isael Orbach delivered a fiery eulogy, explaining that he had served in the same unit as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Mossad chief Meir Dagan."
See http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/545685.html below

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Ha'aretz article:

Dark glasses were unable to conceal the tears shed yesterday. The tough reservists from reserve Company "B," who lost four of their friends in the suicide bombing on Tel Aviv's promenade on Friday night, could no longer hold back their pain.

Alongside the open grave of Aryeh Nagar, 36, in the small cemetery in Kfar Sava, company commander Eran Cohen wept openly: "An eternal Peter Pan who never had enough of life," he eulogized his comrade-in-arms.

Dealing with four funerals in a single day is a near-impossible mission even for such a tightly knit reserve company. To make sure that the group was appropriately represented at each of the funerals, arrangements regarding which member would attend which funeral were made beforehand.

Kobi Ohayun, 30, of Jerusalem, was responsible for putting together the teams for attending each funeral. Ohayun was also one of the first who turned up at Ichilov Hospital after the attack, to begin compiling a list of the missing and injured. Yesterday, he pulled the list of mourners out of his pocket: "As far as we are concerned, the families of those killed are now part of the company," he said.

Ohayun attended the funeral of Yael Orbach, 28, in Kfar Sava, and then hurried to Holon, where Ronen Rubenov was buried.

The Kfar Sava cemetery was awash with tears yesterday. First to be buried there was Orbach, with hundreds accompanying her on her final journey. Orbach was to be married to Ophir Gonen in three weeks' time, and the couple was at the Stage club on Friday night to celebrate the 30th birthday of their friend Yaron Gravesky. They had brought wedding invitations with them. The suicide bomber detonated his explosive close to the couple, killing Orbach instantly and leaving Gravesky seriously wounded.

Israel Orbach delivered a fiery eulogy, explaining that he had served in the same unit as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Mossad chief Meir Dagan. "This girl is the descendant of King David," he said, calling on his former comrades to avenge her death. "If they don't, I will."

A few hours later, the funeral procession for Nagar began, attended by both current and former members of the reserve company. Everyone spoke of Nagar's fresh spirit, and his emotional and physical strength.

Gravesky, whose birthday celebrations were violently cut short by the attack, attended the funerals of Orbach and Rubenov, and also visited the wounded at Ichilov Hospital, some of whom insisted on attending Rubenov's burial. "It was heart-wrenching to see them arriving in wheelchairs and crying over his grave," he said.

Shamir Shushan, who joined the reserve company some eight years ago, remembered Rubenov as the "engine" that kept the company together: "He was very dominant, and always maintained good ties with all the soldiers in reserve duty and in civilian life. If something had to be organized, Ronen was clearly the one to do it."

At the funeral of Itzik Buzaglo on Moshav Mishmar Hayarden, Rafi, the bereaved father, addressed his words to his son's comrades. "I am strengthening you, too. Itzik spoke about you and the company constantly. He would say to me: `Dad, what a bunch of guys, real friends.' Now, we have to be strong."

Hundreds turned up yesterday to console the family, and the more they spoke about Buzaglo, the clearer the picture of his character became. Family members, friends from the moshav and friends from the reserve company all spoke again and again of a man who served as a fine example of leadership and doing deeds for others.

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Israeli vs. Palestinian Victims

by If Americans Knew

Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:13

ISRAELIS VS. *PALESTINIANS* KILLED:
http://ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

ISRAELI CHILDREN VS. *PALESTINIAN* CHILDREN KILLED
http://ifamericansknew.org/stats/children.html

ISRAELIS VS. *PALESTINIAN* SERIOUSLY INJURED:
http://ifamericansknew.org/stats/injuries.html

If fools knew

by Noel

Wed Mar 02, 2005 15:03

Obviously, there's only one type of Palestinian - an innocent Palestinian.
Perhaps those numbers of innocent Palestinians killed should be broken down a little. For clarity.

Number of innocent Palestinians killed for colaborating?
Number of innocent Palestinians killed by own explosive accident?
Number of innocent Palestinians killed while suicide bombing?
Number of innocent Palestinians killed while shooting at IDF?

Another question

by Shelock Holmes

Wed Mar 02, 2005 15:07

How many palestinian children need to be killed before Noel stops making excuses for Israeli State terror?

answer

by mise

Wed Mar 02, 2005 15:09

them all!

btw

Wed Mar 02, 2005 15:18

It was a car bomb not a suicide bomb. There may have been a Palestinian in the car, most likely drugged and handuffed to the steering wheel....

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/02/incriminating-videotape.html

["In a videotape made prior to the Friday suicide bombing that killed four people in Tel Aviv, bomber Abdullah Badran declared that the attack was intended to do harm to the Palestinian Authority, which he said served the interests of the United States.

The Damascus-based leadership of the militant Palestinian Islamic Jihad Saturday claimed responsibility for the attack at the entrance to a beachfront nightclub, saying that it was in retaliation for what a Jihad official called Israel's violation of the Israeli-Palestinian truce concluded at the Sharm el-Sheikh summit on February 8.

The aim of the bombing was 'to attack the self-rule Authority, which acts according to American interests,' Badran, 21, said on the tape. Badran was a resident of a Tul Karm-area West Bank village located adjacent to the separation fence."

Makes sense, except for one minor detail. If your goal is to kill yourself in a suicide bombing in order to frame the Palestinian Authority, why would you leave behind a videotape which admits your plan and thus completely undermines the frame-up?

Conspiracy theory #23453223

Wed Mar 02, 2005 15:44

Mise,

5 full posts on a thread before your ubiquitous conspiracy theory arises.
Is that a new record?

btw Sherlock, I don't excuse or condone Israel State terrorism. It doesn't exist.
And that is elementary.

Next.

doi

by TheTroll

Wed Mar 02, 2005 16:01

In a sence, all Palestinians ARE innocent. Because thier actions are the product of the extream duress of Zionist offenses. Extenuating circomstances clearly show that Palestinians are not acting under thier own free will, but are responding to the ZIonist's continuing, never ending offenses. And that the Zionists killed were killed by thier own bloodsoaked war of conquest in Palestinian lands, just as Nazis were killed in thier wars of conquests.

Extenuating circomstances: things to consider...

Did the Zionist's offenses influence the Palestinian's actions in the slightest??? Yes, that is obvious to all.

Would ANY Palestinians strap bombs to thier chests, travel 1/2 way around the world, and sacrifice thier own lives, if ZIonists had chosen the Costa Ricans as the victims of Zionism??? No, that is pretty hard to believe.

Under the laws we demand for our own protection, even the Palestinian suicide bombers (a tiny fraction of a percentage of the Paletinian people) would be innocent because they are not acting under thier own free will, but are responding to the ZIonist's collective and continuing offenses, which includes occupation of Palestinian lands

NOEL

by Angry

Wed Mar 02, 2005 17:34

Noel you make my blood boil

"there is no israeli state terrorism"

Answer me are these terrorist acts

(1) Bombing of Quana in Lebanon -A UN Post shelled by the "IDF" over 100 people killed

(2) UN run schools in Refugee camps in Palestine shot and shelled at and plenty of evidence to show it

(3) Building of a wall and it is a wall which has been declared illegal by an international court.

(4) Continued building of illegal settlements in palestinian land

(5) Widespread use of detention without trial

(6) Secret building of nuclear weapons

(7) Deir Yassin , if you dont know it look it up, this was the Israeli State that did this

(8) Denial of basic rights such as voting etc to residents of east jerusalem.

Think that if you are palestinian and living in E Jerusalem, you carry an ID that at best says you are Arab sometimes has xxxx for nationality. You cant vote, you have no rights!!

Zionism has long been recognised as a rascist ideology.

Think man, what other countries are religious states, Iran etc, not exactly a model of Human Rights, Israel is a religous run state which practices apartheid!!

Wake up, just go and see these things I have seen them with my own eyes, listen to Vannunu on the nuclear issue, but then again Noel is he wrong too

It makes me angry but I am sorry for you because you think you are right or else you feel that you get off on wacthing people react to your ridiculous crap. either way you are a serious loser who needs a life and needs to wake up to the world

Zzzzzz

by not surprised

Wed Mar 02, 2005 19:36

The level of debate here is cringeworthy.

Angry - "Think that if you are palestinian and living in E Jerusalem, you carry an ID that at best says you are Arab sometimes has xxxx for nationality. You cant vote, you have no rights!!"

The Israelis are certainly not model rulers of East Jerusalem, but let's keep some perspective here! East Jerusalem residents can vote and had at least 5 polling stations in the last election. Fair enough, that's nowhere near enough for the 120,000 or so registered voters, but they were actively encouraged to vote and were facilitated to enter the west bank on polling day if therir local East Jer polling station was too full. So let's not get hysterical and start making dumb statements like "You cannot vote"! The truth is, they can.

You say you have seen this with your own eyes, but your eyes are obviously green/black/white tinted. Of course the Arabs have rights in East Jerusalem. I've been there too, and, while it is certainly not an ideal existence for East Jer residents, it is hardly Armageddon!

Most manage to lead a relatively normal life, and when I was last there (just before and around the death of Arafat), the IDF was being fairly stand-offish from Damscus Gate right back to the West Bank border. So don't tell blatant lies which people who haven't been there will probably believe. The truth is - the Israelis certainly maintain control over the residents of East Jerusalem, but they generally leave them alone to get on with their business.

And I've seen that with my own eyes.

"(3) Building of a wall and it is a wall which has been declared illegal by an international court."

I agree with you - the wall is an abhorrence. But let's face it, while it may violate the principles of "International Law", we both know that without an international system of justice to enforce "International Law", it means jack shit. International law is a useless term, because it is not enforceable. The wall will have to come down as part of a peace deal - believeing anything else is pure fantasy.

Citing individual acts of terrorism committed by the "other side" is a tactic that both the Israelis and the Palestinians can use. It proves nothing. Both sides have suffered and both have acted brutally. Ranking suffering in some fucked-up way - "we have suffered more than you" - is flawed from the start.

If you have been there as you say, you will know that the situation is not as simple as you have made it out to be. Most Israelis are moderate people. The extremists do not represent ordinary Jews, just as the suicide bombers are not condoned by most Arabs.

[snipped reference to hidden post and pointless personal insults. IMC Ed]
And as for Noel. From your posts, you obviously know fuck all about the situation either.

Anyone here open for reasoned debate?

by jams

Wed Mar 02, 2005 22:34

BTW-Id like to see some one drugged and hand cuffed to a steering wheel drive a car! How do you reakon they could change gear or turn? Got lots of straight roads in zionist land?? You are one stupid person.

Long live the intifada,
J

play ball not man folks

by .

Wed Mar 02, 2005 23:07

Oi, you with your head in the BBC sand bucket....

by man will respond

Thu Mar 03, 2005 01:48

How do you explain the 3 dead IDF "Ultra Elite Special Forces" at the scene? They just happened to be there??

It would appear the the bomb went off as THEY got out of the car, which also had the "suicide bomber in".

I wasnt for one moment suggesting that the "sucide bomber" drove there, u muppet.

How also would you explain the wreckage of a half a dozen cars, nearby shops etc etc? How much gear had the "suicide bomber" have strapped to him? 300 kilos? Fuck Off. You obviously know nothing.

Like xymphora pointed out :

In a videotape made prior to the Friday suicide bombing that killed four people in Tel Aviv, bomber Abdullah Badran declared that the attack was intended to do harm to the Palestinian Authority, which he said served the interests of the United States.

The Damascus-based leadership of the militant Palestinian Islamic Jihad Saturday claimed responsibility for the attack at the entrance to a beachfront nightclub, saying that it was in retaliation for what a Jihad official called Israel's violation of the Israeli-Palestinian truce concluded at the Sharm el-Sheikh summit on February 8.

The aim of the bombing was 'to attack the self-rule Authority, which acts according to American interests,' Badran, 21, said on the tape. Badran was a resident of a Tul Karm-area West Bank village located adjacent to the separation fence."

[[[[[Makes sense, except for one minor detail. If your goal is to kill yourself in a suicide bombing in order to frame the Palestinian Authority, why would you leave behind a videotape which admits your plan and thus completely undermines the frame-up?]]]]]]]]]

This was an "False Flag" operation that went wrong - - same as the "rocket test " on the day of the signing of the peace accord.

What you are so eagerly lapping from the Zionist Owned Media is a damage limitation exercise.

yesterday's ME summit

Thu Mar 03, 2005 13:57

At a Middle East Summit in London yesterday, Israel came in for some hefty criticism, which had been widely predicted.

Are Islamic Jihad and the Palestinians really so stupid that they would allow a suicide bomber to weaken their position 3 days before this summit?

Oh what a conicidence? Suicide bomber 3 days before International Conference on Middle East in which Israel is to be widlely expected to get a wrist slapping

You really need to stop taking those BBC pills people.

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