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Brits have nothing to apologise for says Gordon Brown

category national | miscellaneous | opinion/analysis author Saturday January 15, 2005 23:10author by Barry Report this post to the editors

British imperialists treated Africans like "savages" -Thabo Mbeki reckons otherwise.

In the middle of his current visit to Tanzania, British chancellor Gordon Brown has claimed that "the days of Britain apologising for its colonial past are over". Some of us may beforgiven for wondering when we ever heard any of these apologies, but I suppose that would be unfair to the chancellor and highly cynical.

Especially when one considers his follow up comment that it was time for Africans to start talking about "the enduring British traditions of liberty and tolerance".

ANC leader Thabo Mbeki, for some strange unearthly reason, isnt highly impressed by the British chancellor. He claims that British imperialists have simply treated the African peoples whose lands they occupied as savages.

Speaking as someone from an area which Britain currently occupies, apparently because we Irish natives are unruly savages Britain has to police, Id settle for a withdrawal rather than an apology for its actions. Maybe Mr Mbeki and myself are just a pair of cynical bastards, unable to appreciate "British traditions of liberty and tolerance". I suppose that must mean we are savages after all.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Mbeki would be better of listening to his brother     Cabhog    Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:34 
   You're not cynical... you just don't understand what they mean     Michael    Sun Jan 16, 2005 14:21 
   Fascinating article about the British Slave Trade (Part about Haiti made me think of Fallujah)     redjade    Sun Jan 16, 2005 16:08 
   Slave trade     Obsever    Sun Jan 16, 2005 21:10 
   Savages     Michael Hennigan    Mon Jan 17, 2005 23:46 
   Oh dear, someone (me) criticised the brits again.     Barry    Tue Jan 18, 2005 05:37 
   tanzania     peter    Tue Jan 18, 2005 14:14 
   Brits may not have invented slavery, but     R. Isible    Tue Jan 18, 2005 18:01 
   My post was about Britains colonial exploits, not about slavery.     Barry    Tue Jan 18, 2005 20:23 
 10   Britain and The World     South African Friend of Ireland    Wed Jan 19, 2005 07:46 
 11   wow     james    Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:20 
 12   Britain vs Other Countries     South African Friend of Ireland    Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:44 
 13   Our SA friend is correct     Ali H.    Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:16 
 14   Very well pointed out Ali H     Barry    Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:29 
 15   Lack of communication     MB    Wed Jan 19, 2005 18:53 
 16   Victorian ideals as 'progress' still exist,     pc    Wed Jan 19, 2005 19:05 
 17   To MB - Hows this for communication     Barry    Thu Jan 20, 2005 00:24 
 18   Pompous and Arrogant Britain.     South African Friend of Ireland    Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:32 
 19   They arent rying to get out actually     Barry    Thu Jan 20, 2005 13:25 
 20   And it flies thick and fast...     MB    Fri Jan 21, 2005 14:05 
 21   MB's use of Economic Terminology     South African Friend of Ireland    Sat Jan 22, 2005 09:35 
 22   apolgies     MB    Mon Jan 24, 2005 15:26 
 23   Royal Family     South African Friend of Ireland    Mon Jan 24, 2005 18:25 
 24   What would the Irish have done     Maubere    Tue Jan 25, 2005 23:05 
 25   What are you raving about ?     Barry    Wed Jan 26, 2005 02:50 
 26   Slavery Today     teg    Mon Feb 21, 2005 15:28 
 27   Balance sheet of Empire     Anatole    Mon May 16, 2005 11:27 
 28   gulag in K enya     lila    Thu Nov 03, 2005 02:38 


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