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Monday November 29, 2004 13:43

by Karen - Labour voter but ot a member

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What's the plan if the Council collapses?

What is the Campaign Plan?

Tonight councilors in Dublin City will (Fingers crossed) reject the Estimates in protest at the imposition of another staggering increase in the cost of waste collection, the hated Bin Tax.

But talking to a Labour member this morning and arguing why their councilors should vote against the Charges he raised the question of what the Campaign plans to do if and when the Council collapses.

As he outlined it if the Council hasn’t passed the Estimates within the time set for it, the Government will collapse the Council and appoint a bureaucrat to run the city.

All input from elected representatives will be extinguished. This system will last until the next local elections. So for four years the city will be undemocratically run at the whim of the City Manager. No oversight, no representation from the people or anything like that.

This sounds like the nuclear option to me, but there doesn’t seem to be much thinking from Sinn Fein or the SWP or the Campaign itself about what people will do if the Council is brought down. The Labour guy I was talking to pointed out that the City Manager wants to privatize thousands of Council flats and radically cut the social housing stock and that projects like this and others will be implemented by the City bureaucracy.

Now I don’t have some sort of fetish for the Council or elected representation but I do think before the councilors and campaigners fighting to collapse the Council succeed in doing so they have a responsibility to explain what the strategy will be in the aftermath of it collapsing. I am NOT opposed to the idea of collapsing the Council, I just want to know what’s the plan if it is collapsed.

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Comments (45 of 45)

#	Title	Author	Date
1	Council will NOT be dissolved	reality checker	Mon Nov 29, 2004 13:53
2	In the name of DEMOCRACY - Collapse the council.	ABTA	Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:02
3	Bring it on	Jack	Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:14
4	it IS happening	Jill	Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:26
5	Carry on	Still not payin	Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:29
6	Dissolution	easy answer	Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:29
7	Good Question	Justin Moran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:45
8	strike!	easy answer	Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:48
9	I don't think its going to happen	Ray	Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:54
10	A strike would also work	Ray	Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:56
11	Strike is what is needed	easy answer	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:17
12	Indifferent Shrugs	Justin Moran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:24
13	So what you are saying Justin is....	ABTA	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:29
14	Strike is the ONLY strategy that will defeat dissilution	easy answer	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:37
15	Dissolution would be a significant victory	Cieran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:38
16	Cieran	Amused	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:44
17	re. Justin	Ray	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:52
18	I wonder what proportion of SF supporters....	provoid	Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:52
19	Justin - Ignore them	ABTA	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:02
20	Amused, you're point is????????????	Cieran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:05
21	.	.	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:06
22	Ah But Cieran	Amused	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:10
23	Just to add, waiver scheme is to be abolished	Terry	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:12
24	Very amused	Cieran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:27
25	HA HA	Amused	Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:48
26	Wha??????????	Curious	Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:14
27	So what?	voter	Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:17
28	more at politricks.ie	wolfotad4	Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:25
29	So What Indeed	Amused	Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:26
30	Curious What????????????????	Taxer	Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:16
31	Taxer	Curious	Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:22
32	Curious	Cieran	Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:30
33	Sinn Féin will be voting against the Book of Estimates - Burke	SF	Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:50
34	Lies	Tom	Mon Nov 29, 2004 21:29
35	was the election to the council democratic, accountable open to scrutiny and journalistic criticism?	iosaf	Mon Nov 29, 2004 21:44
36	SWP Sectarianism	pat c	Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:09
37	SWP	observer	Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:25
38	Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire	Justin Moran	Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:29
39	A yes voting leftie	A yes voting Leftie	Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:24
40	A yes voting Leftie?	ABTA	Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:37
41	Bin tax and Stealth Taxes	Michael Hennigan	Tue Nov 30, 2004 17:45
42	The Bin Tax is not just about money	seedot	Tue Nov 30, 2004 18:39
43	SWP Watcher	SWP Commment	Tue Nov 30, 2004 23:38
44	class party	Con Lee	Wed Dec 01, 2004 00:04
45	seedot	observer	Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:02

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