Arafat poisoned by Israel - "This time they got me..."

by John Campbell - sf Wed Nov 10, 2004 16:32 swords

The media has already dismissed the these claims as mere conspiracy theories. In all fairness would you ever put this sort of action past the mossad or the isreali military. The Mossad have done nothing in their actions over the years to show they are anything short of a state sponsored terror organisation with zero regard for the sovernty of other nations and like their friends in the CIA regard human life as cheap

by just me Wed Nov 10, 2004 18:33

"President Bush replied that it would perhaps be best to leave Arafat's fate in the hands of the Almighty.
Sharon said that one should sometimes help Him!"

:))))))) Well said! Couldnt agree more.

Fact is that Arafat has blood in his hands. He was a terrorist during 70's and 80's personally ordering plane hijacking etc.

He is one of the main obstacles of peace in Israel. Lets hope he dies soon.

by John Wed Nov 10, 2004 18:53

Youre right Arafat has blood on his hands just like Sharon, Bush, Blair, etc etc, etc oh yes the blood on their hands is legitimate and in the case on Bush and Blair you cant see it because of the oil!

by just me Wed Nov 10, 2004 19:04

Youre right, Sharon, Bush and Blair all have blood on their hands. But they have never been terrorists like Arafat was. They are politicians and sometimes they have to make diffucult decision and they have to use some military force. However whenever they use military force they are doing it openly and they respect laws of their country.

by iosaf Wed Nov 10, 2004 19:09

last night US tea time, showed President Bush and his wife visiting a US military hospital. Bush thanked the doctors and generals for running the hospital, and voiced his feelings of "being moved" to see the bravery of the men and women "who wear the uniform" and are "helping to allow democracy emerge in Iraq".
As he entered his car he was asked about Arafat.
his reply was - "heck I don't know, too many conflicting reports coming out of there".
Lovely man. You could imagine having a burger and fires with him followed by a bible chat.
He then went and met little José Maria Aznar for 40 minutes, you might remember José Maria he used to be president of Spain (for life) till the international judeo-masonic-red-anarcho-pacifist-queer conspiracy stole his election claiming he had lied to the world and his own media and contradicted everyone back in March. Mr Bush has yet to return the congratulation phone call he recieved on November 3 from the current president of Spain (for four years) Mr ZP.
CNN then, coz they know how to edit, quickly cut to ashort interview with Ariel Sharon, who despite sharing a name with a medieval demon, is in fact the prime minister of Israel, and between supressing the giggles, managed to sneer that the "things are very much better _here_" since Mr Arafat got his mystery illness which we all hope isn't catching at least for god fearing types.

by Zionasti Wed Nov 10, 2004 20:48

Yitzhak Shamir founding member of the Lehi terrorist group (born October 15, 1915) was Prime Minister of Israel from 1983 to 1984 and again from 1986 to 1992.

Lehi considered the British rule of Palestine to be an illegal occupation, and concentrated its attacks mainly against British targets.

A letter from Lehi offering to "actively take part in the war on Germany's side" in return for German support for "the establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich".

Lehi attacks:

* April 9, 1948 - Lehi and Irgun attack Deir Yassin (see Deir Yassin massacre).
* September 17, 1948, Lehi assassinated the UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte. Bernadotte's insistence on the right of the Palestinian refugees to return to their homes was the cause for his murder. The assassination was directed by Yehoshua Zetler and carried out by a four-man team led by Meshulam Markover. The fatal shots were fired by Yehoshua Cohen. Lehi leaders Nathan Yellin-Mor and Matitiahu Schmulevitz were arrested two months after the murder. Most of the suspects involved were released immediately and all of them were granted general amnesty on the 14th of February, 1949.

Quotation

"Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can negate the use of terror as a means of battle.

"...We are quite far from moral hesitations on the national battlefield. We see before us the command of the Torah, the most moral teaching in the world: "Obliterate - until destruction." We are particularly far from this sort of hesitation in regard to an enemy whose moral perversion is admitted by all.

"But primarily terror is part of our political battle under present conditions and its role is large and great:

*"It demonstrates, in clear language, to those who listen throughout the world and to our despondent brothers outside the gates of this country of our battle against the true terrorist who hides behind his piles of papers and the laws he has legislated.

*"It is not directed against people, it is directed against representatives. Therefore it is effective.

*"If it also shakes the Jews in Israel from their complacency, good and well.

"Only so will the battle for liberation begin."

-- He Khazit (The Front, a Lehi underground newspaper), Issue 2, August 1943. The italicised quotation is a combination of two Biblical references to the Amalekites, Ex. 17:14 and Num. 14:45: Utterly blot out their remembrance...and destroy them completely.

by John Thu Nov 11, 2004 01:23

Hiya doin!!!

In relation to politicians respecting their counrty's laws.

1) Sharon was removed from office in 1982 byt the Israeli govt for the massacres in Shabra and Chatila in lebanon -a tribunal found him responsible for the massacre of 2000 people

2) He orderd the invasion of Lebanon in 1982 against the govt wishes!!!

3) Bush and Blair lied about WMD

4) Bush stole the election in 2000

Respecting the law

Respecting fuck all

Get real and get a life

by jeff Thu Nov 11, 2004 17:08

Western values must be defended! That is why it is better to endorse noble democratic leaders like Bush and Sharon. They wear the sort of suits endorsed by the west, and the modern tie that was invented in Croatia, which is a very Western values oriented nation.( especially during ww11/and the balkan wars!)

People like Arafat are poorer, browner, and more rag headed-er. Don't support them. Guys like him wear green army fatigues, the sort of fatigues bought in the Army Bargains' surplus basement reduced price gear.

They will never understand Western Values, not until the noble West intervenes. Then, after much stabilisation, the oppressed people under rag headed despots like Arafat and Hussein will finally be ready to share in the gift that is our consumer oriented society.

Until then, they will have to, unfortunatly, endure necessary irritants like daisy cutters and collateral, er, re-shufflement. Their history books in the future, though, will point out that this was a good thing that helped overcome longer term problems such as over population and chronic unemployment. This is because their history books will be written in the West then mass printed in China, thus creating more jobs.

If, on the other hand, future despots emerge from amongst our brown skinned brethern, the noble West will be able to rely on subterfuge, or, as a noble, western value oriented last resort, 'shock and awe'! Democracy is a duty, not a privilage.

This won't happen, though. Concepts such as 'revenge' usually run out of steam after a generation or two. Add MTV and shopping malls to the list, and don't forget the lap tops, you have got stabilisation! Well, at least that is the plan, anyway...it'll have to work, though, it is a Noble Western Plan! Not a five year plan like the commies had, nope sirree bob.

This is the Actual Future. Bee-leeeve it. Read the news everyday, the media will always agree with this statement.( Unless you are watching anti Noble Western ideologists like Al Jazeera)

(roll -'We Will Rock You' by Queen)

The Noble West- Offering everything; from Mozart to McDonalds, Orieos to Outsourcing.Oh, and democracy.

Amen

by Yasser Thu Nov 11, 2004 19:49

Key Dates in the life of Yasir Arafat, known to many as the "father of modern terrorism"


-- Aug 4, 1929: Arafat born in Cairo. Muhammad Abdel Rahman Abdel Rauf al-Qudwa al-Husseini is fifth child of prosperous merchant, Abdel Raouf al-Qudwa al-Husseini.

-- 1933 : Arafat's mother dies. He and his infant brother are sent to live with uncle in Jerusalem.

-- 1948: Arafat runs arms to Palestine.

....continued at www.camera.org

by kintama Fri Nov 12, 2004 00:08

a relatively short list if it were to be measured against the evil Sharon and the murderous 'IDF'

by pc Sat Nov 13, 2004 00:49

just go to the beacon of fair reporting camera.org ...

by Ran Sat Nov 13, 2004 04:02

What a bullheaded comment to make- as if Ariel Sharon is not a terrorist himself. Sharon had several times threatened to kill Arafat; I believe that there is a great likelihood that Arafat was poisoned.

by Codreanu Sat Nov 13, 2004 04:11

Well, seeing how Zionism poisons everything it touches, I don't think the murder of one Arab pensioner is much of a surprise. They've always had bigger fish to fry, or play, as the case may be.

by B.J. Sat Nov 13, 2004 19:15

Watching the beeb last week I heard a Palestinian representative make the comment that poison was a possible cause of his "illness". I had already come to that conclusion long before this 'confirmation'.

by barra Sun Nov 14, 2004 20:21 bray

May arafat r.i.p. and may hamas target israeli statemens and other agents of repression not radom jews.

To the israeli elite words have much less meaning than life. We have the luxury of diplomacy in this country, try to understand armed resistance even if it can't be justified

Dont put all violence under the same umbrella sadly violence is an necessary evil for the struggle of basic rights for much of the oppressed in the world.

by ZXBarcalow Mon Nov 15, 2004 00:29

People do occasionally die of natural causes, you know -even famous people.

Of course it is POSSIBLE that Arafat was poisoned. But there is no evidence to believe this.

It is not as if its THAT surpsising that he died. He was old, and he had to go some time.

So please stop promoting crazy conspiracy theories.

by Chomps Mon Nov 15, 2004 15:26

Anybody with an intention to kill would use something, let's say... lethal.

Poisons that take weeks to act are soo 7th century.

by iosaf Mon Nov 15, 2004 21:06

by the time rasputin was chucked in the ice, poisoners had moved on from the usual interruptors of oxyhaemoglobulisation, to other neurological interruptors and inhibitors which indeed take a while to kick in.
anyway, as we all know, we could all lose our minds to free radical chomping in less than eight months from start to finish if and only if we ate one of those contaminated burgers.
I've a pal who stocked up on beef by the trolley loads the day after Gummer the Thatcherite minister for food in Britain force fed his daughter a burger on telly, just to prove that it was ok to consume the shit.
He has three years till he gets "all clear" the same with Gummer's daughter. I sometimes feel a wee bit guilty for goading my pal into doing it, (he came from a Thatcherite family) and we always good naturedly it must be said, took the piss out of each. [an example being how he sent me to a "glazier" interview in London's docklands the morning after Canary Wharf had been bombed.]
Anyways. The best poisons are very very slow an mimic normal endochronoligcal functions to provoke what appears to be endopic pathogenic growth or dsyfunction. Trust me on this.

by Anne Silver - none Tue Nov 23, 2004 16:45 SilverBlackdog at aol dot com Bournemouth UK 07793432736

I have seen many items talking about the Isrealis poisoning Arafat. I understand that the Palestinians are bereft at his loss - although I despised him. I have also seen articles claiming he was a homosexual who died from AIDS.

The truth? Who knows. Whilst I do not think it would be a good thing to ever let the Palestinians believe he was homosexual (even if he was) I think it equally wrong to let them believe he was poisoned. Neither will help the peace process, and nothing will bring him back.

At the end of the day he was 75 and if there is a God then he will do what he deems right with Arafat. And if there is not, well it does not much matter either way.

What does matter is just this. Either the Palestinians need to accept a 'no right of return' policy because Isreal could not survive and allow it, or the state of Isreal needs to cease to exist.

Until one of the above happens there will be no peace and no hope for the people involved.

I just thought I would say that.

by abu nidal Tue Nov 23, 2004 16:52

Why would they kill him? He was no threat to them and besides they could have done so many times had they wished and in such a way that they would not even have been blamed. Let's face it, Arafat was a corrupt despot who was happy with the little bit of pwer given him.

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by Poison Mind Sun Jan 23, 2005 00:44

"Prank poison was put in drink...don't know what it was or who did it."

Try to find a prank antidote! Can't ya take a joke?