Anti-War Ireland criticises visit of US Secretary of Health to Ireland

by John Sun May 09, 2004 09:48

So, you are having one demo at 10am on Tuesday morning and another at 8.30am on Wednesday morning? Don't any of you people ever go to work like the rest of the population? Are you all on welfare? Or are you all sociology lecturers paid by the taxpayer and who can take unlimited time off whenever you feel like it, unlike those who work in the productive sector and have to compete against hard-working East Europeans, Americans, South Koreans and Singaporese?

by Dr Fintan Lane Supporter Sun May 09, 2004 11:32

Never mind the last comment Fintan, the work that you are doing in stopping this war is exemplary, keep up the good work.

by Drbinoche Sun May 09, 2004 16:27

Im sure right now the American Minister for Health is shitting in his pants. Oh no a bunch of idioys who seem to think I have some bearing on the War in Iraq wanna come and protest at times when most people will be working or on their way to work. Guys get a job and if you have one stop scrounging off to mona at someone who has no bearing on your movement. This just proves that you'll protest at anyone for no reason and put on a public display. Fintan get a life!!

by Kay Sun May 09, 2004 18:58

Listen Dribbles, if anybody needs to get a life, it's clearly you! You seem to spend a lot of time logging into indymedia looking for stuff and people to whinge about. Take up golf or something. This negative energy won't do you much good in the long run.

Well done to Anti-War Ireland for organising this protest.

by Me Sun May 09, 2004 19:46

Drbinoche - are you the ginger fella I know from Dublin who goes by that name? There couldn't be too many Drbinoche's out there esp in Ireland.

by Drbinoche Sun May 09, 2004 23:57

I doubt if I would call my hair ginger, it would be more browny. I doubt if you would know me from Dubin, I tend not to hang out with any of the Anti-War groups. Hell if there is someone else going around calling themselves Drbinoche, then more power to em its a great name.

As for lots of free time, I usually am up to my tonsils in work, but you know you have some time off, so you decide to see whats happening in my favourite city on many many levels.

Maybe the reason you believe I just argue is that alot of the ideas on this site do not seem to have been fully thought out and since alot of you guys can't even get along, I don't even have to start hassle for you guys to start at each others throats.

by Me Again Mon May 10, 2004 02:09

Come to think of it you're prob more a brown haired fella alright. Glasses? Goatie beard? Its you, isn't it?

by John Mon May 10, 2004 11:24

EU Health Ministers, bureaucrats and possibly the US Health Minister Tommy Thompson will be staying at Cork's exclusive Hayfield Manor Hotel, often used by so-called VIPs because of its high walls and 'securability'. The health ministers won't be able to forget the protests and the occupation of Iraq that easily.

Hundreds of homes in the vicinity of Hayfield manor were visited by Gardai with details of tight security and a total traffic cordon around the area.

One local resident, anti-war activist Tony C.(famous for his "Neutral My Arse" poster at Shannon) decided to take advantage of the proximity to his home of the minister's accommodation and yesterday hoisted an Iraqi flag on a 32 foot mast in his back garden so whether it's arriving and leaving the conference centre at the Rochestown Park Hotel across the city or taking a stroll in Hayfield Manor, the ministers cannot escape the Iraq occupation issue.

Raising the flag

Our intrepid flag-man Tony surveying his handiwork

The view the Health Ministers will 'enjoy' from Hayfield Manor

by Starstruck - UCD Left Mon May 10, 2004 13:51

O pity all ye who cannot see past going in and out of your jobs every day.
Cant you see that what the U.S is doing is more important than any fucking job and that if they are allowed continue down this path of war,imperialism incitement and greed ytour job will be the least thing on your mind.
If the daily commute and drudgery of work is whats suppressing your will to fight a dangerous superpower then so be it,but let others who have that drive and will do it without petty critcisms like those above.
Good luck with the protest!

by Fintan Lane - Anti-War Ireland/Cork Anti-War Campaign Mon May 10, 2004 20:30 info at antiwarireland dot org 087 1258325

The Anti-war Ireland/Cork Anti-War Campaign picket of US Secretary of Health, Tommy Thompson, will now convene at 8.30am on Wednesday outside the Rochestown Park Hotel. Thompson will be arriving around that time and is scheduled to give a press conference at 10.30am.

Please make a special effort to attend. Remember that this man is a senior figure in the Bush ministerial cabinet and has a direct involvement in the brutal occupation of Iraq.

by Drbinoche Mon May 10, 2004 20:35

Well you are pretty close, the guy you are talking about, if it is the same person is a friend of my sons, his names Phil. He was the original DrB, but I borrowed the name coz its a great one. Oh and if you think I am bad, you should never argue with him, he really has no time for Anti-War people, I believe he subscribes to the 'Baton-charge the lot of em' group of people. Nice guy all the same. If you know him, you probably know my son. And Id imagine you know em from the Temple Bar region of Dublin. Used to hang out there alot when they were younger.

As for the argument about why we say get a job, you see you need a job to make money and maybe further your life, from which you will have a better ability to help others if you so wish. If you are unemployed you aint too rich and as such you can't afford to travel to Shannon, or help pay for banners and posters.

My other point about the job is, that your employers must be able to do without you for a few hours or days, if you can just decide to take a morning off to protest in Shannon or Dromoland or one of those. Either way, your job is actually a bit more important than what the previous poster believes. And by working you can pay your taxes and help pay your way in society.

by Me Mon May 10, 2004 22:22

Is your 'son' the baldy bollix Connor or the other one, whats his name again? Ritchie I think. Or are you just pretending to be an ex-army arsehead and you're really that young fella Binoche witht he long hair?

by Drbinoche Tue May 11, 2004 00:38

I know both of those lads as well and believe me if Connor were standing in front of you, I would imagine you would know to shut your mouth as the man would mop the floor with you. Surprising how on this site if you are pro-war or even just someone who likes to point out problems, your identity is immediately suspect. So in the last two months it has been suggested that I am actually three people in one, two of whom live in a totally different country, and now the best one, I am actually a young man. Jesus I fucking wish I was as young as the lads, then maybe I could join em when you guys do your usual protests and they do their little plans.

I mean honestly, what do you guys need as evidence to prove I am who I claim I am. And also more importantly if this is the level of secuirty that you require to be allowed into your group, then fuck me you guys have worse secuirty than Mossad!!!

BTW what might I ask is your name?? Just out of curiosity so I can ask the lads to keep an eye out for you. Hell I might just ask Connor and Baz to ask around they are good at getting me info.

by looping Tue May 11, 2004 18:52

this link will bring you back to the still internationally recognised flag of the state of Iraq which is still illegally occupied by the USA assisted by the UK.
That flag shows horizontal bars of white, red and black and three stars for pan-arabism, as proposed by various figures such as the Baath party and Nassar. Iraq got three stars the other baath states less. Saddam went through a "god phase" close to the end, and added the arabic inscription "God is Great", which isn't in the version being flown,
well flown, by Tony.
:-)

by me Tue May 11, 2004 20:00

It is you but Phil. It is, it is, it is. Nothing will tell me any different. I'll see you about soon, soft-lad. See you very soon and your mates.

by Drbinoche Tue May 11, 2004 23:58

I think you mean you'll see Phil soon. I don't believe we have ever met as I tend not to converse with many anti-war people, they tend to be full of questions and not enough answers.

I see you are reluctant to give your name. Thats strange, you seem to behave as if you are not afraid of the lads or of Phil, if thats the case surely you would not be afraid of giving your name as the lads could do nothing to you. Oh well, Ill tell Phil of your regards and tell him to keep an eye out for Anti-War idiots, who are unable to differentiate a middle aged man from a young man.

Irrespective can we please get back onto the point, to those not labelled Me, what is your motivation for harrassing the Minister for Health, a man who whilst in the cabinet of Bush et al, is not directly responsible for any actions in Iraq??