USI Affiliation Referendum in NCI

by former nci Wed Apr 07, 2004 15:12

Bob I though he was dead!

by Dermot Looney - UCD SU Wed Apr 07, 2004 15:24

Fair play to you Ian, USI is far from the organisation it can be but don't let this McDowell wannabe fuck up NCI's chances of student development through national student activism. In the words of the motto of USI (and St Patrick's Athletic) - "Ní neart go cur le chéile" - Without unity there is no strength.

by OLD HACK Wed Apr 07, 2004 16:19

But Aonghus took over his spirit

by Student - UCDSU Wed Apr 07, 2004 16:21

It's correct to say that USI is far from perfect and the task is to transform it into an organisation that will fight in our interests.

For Bob Quinn to say that motions at the USI Congress justifies how bad the organisation is is bogus. Bob is a USI member and could have submitted motions to the NCI SU Council and as a USI member could become a delegate if he wins enough support. There were many motions I disagreed with, many I supported. I disagree with the choice of President next year. BUT that's what happens in organisations. There are differences etc.

Bob Quinn is a tired old hack that is ear marked for big things in the PDs. I'm sure he opposes USI for taking Anti War, Anti Citizenship Referendum, Anti Deportations positions. As he is all for Deportations, War etc.

When will the referendum take place? This year? or next?

I would advise anyone running the pro-USI vote to critise and point out where there are problems and then put forward an alternative agenda for USI. Don't allow the USI Officerboard play a big role.

by Ian McGahon - NCISU/USI Member Wed Apr 07, 2004 16:24

It looks like this is unlikely to reach quorum

by Ian McGahon Wed Apr 07, 2004 16:33

The referendum is taking place on 22nd and 23rd April. These are the last 2 days of Classes in NCI this year. The following week is a study week and after that exams. Students will only care about exams and will be hostile to this unnecessary referendum. It will not reach quorum. I will personally be campaigning but respecting those who are more concerened about their exams.

If those who pushed this referendum really cared about the issues and did not have other agendas, this referendum could have been in September

So far officerboard have been quiet apart from Gareth Keogh (being a former NCI student he is going to oppose this)

The President and Vice-President elect of NCI students union are both supporting the campaign to stay in USI.

by Brendan Ferron Wed Apr 07, 2004 17:20

Ian,
Well done on your stance. To echo the words of Dermott, USI is far from where it needs to be. My argument has been consistent, In order to get there it requires dam hard work. It requires those who want change to make it happen. Nothing is gained from walking away. Fees are back on the agenda as is further cuts. If ever a national union had a role to play its now.
As for an alliance, as I recall I organized a social with Bod while he was president. This was the extent of the co-operation. I doubt very much if I would of been able to find much common ground politically on which Mr Quinn and myself would agree.
I wish you well in you efforts in the next weeks. It always appears that the right attempt to put the boot in when the organization is at its weakest. To quote my executive when I asked if we should disaffiliate, "If its not working then get up of your arse and make it work, you get paid enough."

by Ian McGahon Wed Apr 07, 2004 17:48

Thank you Brendan. Exactly my point, the people who criticise USI openly could very easily try to do things to improve. But no they just bitch about how ineffective the organisation is.

by Ian McGahon Wed Apr 07, 2004 21:38

The referendum is not happening. Proper procedures were not followed in calling it.

This is genuine. I have been speaking to 3 incoming SU officers in NCI who have informed me that it is not happening