Boston bombing in perspective

by I know Fri May 31, 2013 22:26

Pretty shocking that you actually had to explain that a second time to the poor oul eejit, though.

by fred Thu May 30, 2013 22:49

the FBI admitted that he was unarmed

by Zionism+Nazism=Felix Thu May 30, 2013 22:13

truly bizarre -

From the linked story

A Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

by Dave Thu May 30, 2013 21:58

HE WAS ARMED..STOP LYING

by Zionism+Nazism=Felix Thu May 30, 2013 21:44

Mere coninsidences and tragic ones at that,as for the shooting of the other chechen involved that was unfortunately nessecary as he was armed and not co-operating.

"Chechen man who knew Boston bombing suspect was UNARMED when shot" - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/o....html

"Not co-operating" with what?

Not co-operating with the people trying to kill him?

by dave Thu May 30, 2013 21:27

Mere coninsidences and tragic ones at that,as for the shooting of the other chechen involved that was unfortunately nessecary as he was armed and not co-operating.

Next you are going to say boston was an inside job,or 9/11 was a mossad job.

by fred Thu May 30, 2013 20:10

this stinks to high heaven:

"FBI agents involved in Tsarnaev arrest ‘accidentally’ die in helicopter training exercise ":
http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_05_24/FBI-agents-invol...cise/

"Photos reveal Boston bombing suspect’s friend Todashev got FBI kill shot in the head ":
http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_05_30/Todashev-s-fathe...2444/

by T Thu Apr 25, 2013 22:13

In this podcast from Guns and Butter the background and motive for the Boston bombings are set out very clearly.

It shows why the govt have set the narrative that this is linked to Chechen terrorists -the very people the CIA trained, sponsored and armed and used to trigger the first Chechen war (in 1994) in which up to 100,000 were killed, in an attempt to destablize and split apart the Russia Federation which they nearly did. Putin
launched the Second Chechen War in 1999 to regain control.

Today though the dollar as a reserve currency is at risk of falling as both China and Russia have been secretly buying thousands of tonnes of gold and trying to get rid of their dollar reserves and setup their own bi-lateral arrangements. When the plug is pulled on the dollar it will impoverish much of the US population since they import so much including oil and the price of these imports will sky rocket as the dollar value collapses. This is not necessarily something that will happen tomorrow but it is on the cards and the Chinese and Russians and many others do are sick of being ripped off by the dollar which the USA prints for free and it particularly elks them because the US essentially gets all these imports for free and is thus able to use this wealth or borrowed money to launch so many wars that goes directly against the interests of so many countries.

Thus as in the lead up to the Iraq War where the image of Bin Laden after 9/11 was slowly shown less frequently in the media whilst that of Saddam Hussein slowly increased till it replaced it and unfortunately a significant number of Americans came to believe Saddam was responsible for 9/11 and hence that justified the war.

And so we are now going to still get the narratives that all terrorists are Muslims but over the next few months / years this will change from Arab type Muslims to Chechen Muslims and since Chechen is part of the Russian Federation then quite clearly the implication will be that Putin is behind the terrorists. And that will be the pretext to build up the rhetoric and military to threaten Russia once again the hope somehow that they stall or delay the dollar collapse

The above is not actually covered in the interview perhaps due to the finite time available but it will give some context to the interview itself.

We must remember once again and it is pointed out in the interview and we now it from recent press coverage that:

John Kerry (Secretary of State) met with the Syrian Opposition leader in Turkey a few weeks back and brought money and said this was for Al Nussa militia (who used it to buy weapons) and are part of the so called Syria opposition who openly swore its loyalty to Al Qaeda. (See http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/04/16/alnu-a16.html and http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-syria-opposit...31547 and http://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-rebels-pledge-alleg...15363 ). So how can you be sponsoring and supporting al Qaeda and at the same time allegdly be fighting them? This contradictions are surprisenly hope and you would wonder why, but then as pointed out above, there are many instances of blatant lies but the American public seems so thoroughly ill-informed and lacking in any knowledge with regards worldly events that it is easy to mislead and it works; so why bother try any harder?

Anyhow the podcast is well worth a listen because it brings and connect so many facts and geo-political events together

"Boston Truth: The Suspects - Who Is Behind al Qaeda?" - Guns and Butter April 24th 2013
"Boston Truth: The Suspects - Who Is Behind al Qaeda?" - Guns and Butter April 24th 2013 10.28 Mb

by T Tue Apr 23, 2013 22:56

For anyone who still foolish enough to believe the bullshit from the mainstream media and the US government about Boston, these set of links provide very extensive intelligent questions and analysis from many of the photographs and camera stills

17 Unanswered Questions About The Boston Marathon Bombing The Media Is Afraid To Ask
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/17-unanswered...o-ask

Unanswered questions in Boston bombings
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/04/22/ques-a22.html

This site contains extensive analysis of the photographs
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

And during the week that the media was saturated with this Psy Ops, Congress passed Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA).

As Wikipedia says: CISPA is a proposed law in the United States which would allow for the sharing of Internet traffic information between the U.S. government and technology and manufacturing companies. The stated aim of the bill is to help the U.S government investigate cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattacks

And also in the same week the safety levels for radiation levels during nuclear incidents was lowered. They are so low, they probably won't need to evacuate anyone because they will be able to say it is safe. And to put that in context that are approximately 100 boiling reactors of the type in Fukushima in operation in the USA and it has been admitted they all have the same fatal flaws. Incidently last week a nuclear power plant lost power for serveral hours after a lightening strike. Luckily they restored power again in time. Will they be lucky everytime?

Obama Approves Raising Permissible Levels of Nuclear Radiation in Drinking Water. Civilian Cancer Deaths Expected to Skyrocket
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-approves-raising-per...31224

by T Mon Apr 22, 2013 23:37

There is a great article at the link below explaining how the media are creating a new narrative which is to imply the America Homeland is threatened by Chechen Muslim terrorists. The advantage of this is that it allows the US to start pressuring and threatening Russia. -I guess this is because Russia and China have plans under way to exit the use of the dollar.

Anyhow here's a piece from the article:

“The Chechen Connection” has become embedded in a new media consensus. The American Homeland is potentially threatened by Muslim terrorists from the Russian Federation, who have links to Al Qaeda. ....
....The fact of the matter is that the jihadist movement is a creation of US intelligence, which has also led to the development of “political Islam”. While the role of the CIA in support of the Islamic jihad (including most Al Qaeda affiliated organizations) is amply documented.....
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According to Yossef Bodansky, director of the U.S. Congress’ Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, the insurgency in Chechnya had been planned during a secret summit of HizbAllah International held in 1996 in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Levon Sevunts, “Who’s Calling The Shots? Chechen conflict finds Islamic roots in Afghanistan and Pakistan”, The Gazette, Montreal, 26 October 1999.)

It’s obvious that the involvement of Pakistan’s ISI in Chechnya “goes far beyond supplying the Chechens with weapons and expertise: The ISI and its radical Islamic proxies are actually calling the shots in this war.”(Ibid)

The ISI is in permanent liaison with the CIA. What this statement signifies is that US intelligence using Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) as a go-between was calling the shots in the Chechnya war.

Russia’s main pipeline route transits through Chechnya and Dagestan. Despite Washington’s condemnation of “Islamic terrorism”, the beneficiaries of the wars in Chechnya were the Anglo-American oil conglomerates which were vying for complete control over oil resources and pipeline corridors out of the Caspian Sea basin.

The two main Chechen rebel armies (which at the time were led by the (late) Commander Shamil Basayev and Emir Khattab), estimated at 35,000 strong, were supported by CIA and its Pakistani counterpart the ISI, which played a key role in organizing and training the Chechen rebel army:

“[In 1994] the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence [in liaison with the CIA] arranged for Basayev and his trusted lieutenants to undergo intensive Islamic indoctrination and training in guerrilla warfare in the Khost province of Afghanistan at Amir Muawia camp, set up in the early 1980s by the CIA and ISI and run by famous Afghani warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. In July 1994, upon graduating from Amir Muawia, Basayev was transferred to Markaz-i-Dawar camp in Pakistan to undergo training in advanced guerrilla tactics. In Pakistan, Basayev met the highest ranking Pakistani military and intelligence officers: Minister of Defence General Aftab Shahban Mirani, Minister of Interior General Naserullah Babar, and the head of the ISI branch in charge of supporting Islamic causes, General Javed Ashraf (all now retired). High-level connections soon proved very useful to Basayev.” (Ibid, emphasis added)

by fred Mon Apr 22, 2013 19:35

piece in counterpunch on the police state behaviour in Boston:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/22/police-state-on-...play/

Armored vehicles in downtown Boston [Photo: Jeff Cutler]

by fred Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:08

Interesting observations.

Two brothers with links to Chechnya are killed / captured after a city wide lockdown.
Their mother interviewed on RT claims they were already being watched by authorities and were innocent. "the FBI controlled my sons activities" she is quoted as saying.

Personally I don't know which is more frightening, a pipebomb let off at a public event by some nutcases or a complete city lockdown with thousands of military types roaming the streets, bristling with weapons and looking for somebody to blame/kill.

Isn't Chechnya where brave mujahadeen "freedom fighters" battle valiantly against evil Russians according to the US MSM? By that logic, I guess these guys must have been "freedom fighters". or were they terrorists? Maybe It's time US finally agreed to define exactly what terrorism is. However they refuse to.

I note CISPA II is passing through the US congress at the same time as all this is happening with little or no comment by the media.

by anti-fascist Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:27

The official story we are being told about the attacks is that the government had no foreknowledge that an attack was about to take place. However, a mountain of evidence has been unearthed that contradicts this official story.

Images of the scene prior to the bombs going off show a team of individuals that are dressed in a uniform typical of Craft International employees. Craft International is a private military contractor, similar to Blackwater. Craft specializes in sniper, protection detail, covert ops and close-quarter-combat training. They are a training organization, not a security organization. That means they were not at this event providing security. They must have been there conducting some kind of a drill or training exercise. Craft does not offer security guard services. Even if they did, they are way too elite for general security at a marathon.

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In addition to a team of private commandos running around with black backpacks, we also have confirmed eye witness testimony that officials were conducting a bomb drill prior to the bombs going off. Bomb sniffing dogs were already on the scene before the explosions.

University of Mobile Cross Country Coach Ali Stevenson, stated in an interview with Local15TV.com, “At the start at the event, at the Athlete’s Village, there were people on the roof looking down onto the Village at the start. There were dogs with their handlers going around sniffing for explosives, and we were told on a loud announcement that we shouldn’t be concerned and that it was just a drill. And maybe it was just a drill, but I’ve never seen anything like that — not at any marathon that I’ve ever been to. You know, that just concerned me that that’s the only race that I’ve seen in my life where they had dogs sniffing for explosions, and that’s the only place where there had been explosions.”

In addition to the bomb squad already being on scene, private commandos on the scene, and a bomb drill being run, we also have witness testimony being reported that runners were warned about an attack by an anonymous woman several days prior

http://www.libertariannews.org/2013/04/18/private-milit...tory/

by T Fri Apr 19, 2013 21:27

The interesting thing is that this was aired on Fox News.

For those who may not have followed up on many of the previous foiled plots and attacks, practically all of these were setup of the FBI undercover agents whereby the befriended quite young, stupid and impressionable people on the fringes and in most cases completely arranged everything for them.

A good example would be this one:

FBI entraps Bangladeshi student in fake terror plot
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/10/bomb-o19.html

Or this one:

Five New Jersey men convicted in FBI-concocted Fort Dix “terror” case
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/12/fdix-d24.html

Given the current lockdown this evening this smacks of some kind of trial run for something bigger. Perhaps if the dollar collapses, they would need to do a nationwide lockdown to retain control

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by fred Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:23

Huge explosion in a fertiliser factory in WACO Texas yesterday.

Estimates of >100 injured. 2 officially dead and potentially maybe quite a few more.

Also, letters containing traces of ricin sent to the president.

All on the anniversary of the WACO deaths and the eve of a vote on more restrictive gun legislation.

Hmmmm.........

Maybe its all just a big coincidence but It'll be interesting to see what the investigations turn up ;-)

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by Bobby Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:32

' The reality is it's probably home grown anti government sentiment that drove this '

Baseless statement, I will come back and apologise if you were right and I will think you're a genius for copping on faster than the rest of us. Anyway, sad situation for all lovers of freedom. Clampdown 2013-style, gulp...

But seriously, at a running event? Thanks to Bush et al for obliterating the front line in war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGk2TojOd-4