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Jump To Comment: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1No one is born a cock fighter. A great deal of desensitisation is required for someone to engage in the despicable act of training or watching two magnificent, intelligent creatures injure each other to the point of death. Instilling that desensitisation in young people is yet another act of gross injustice. Cock fighting is an extremely cruel and violent activity. It is associated with a multiplicity of other human problems that occur alongside it such as drug abuse and prostitution. It is not an activity that pertains to liberated male birds who have the space to escape once domination has been established. It is an activity that reflects human depravity, mirrors our own social and cultural deficits, and the violence of this crime against life resides entirely with the humans who organise and participate in it. The Gardai would do well to spend their time addressing it for the sake of the crimes against humans that cock fighting is associated with, but most importantly to ensure that the innocent birds trapped in this horror are taken safely to animal sanctuaries.
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Thats a really stupid argument often trotted out on animal threads.
Once and for all. Human rights and animal rights are not mutually exclusive. Caring about animals does not preclude you caring about people at the same time. It is illogical to think so.
You can care about both in parallel. In fact the people I see taking action on human rights are often the very same people expressing distaste for the cruel treatment meted out to animals. If you are a caring person capable of empathy then it is unlikely to stop at just one species or issue.
A conscience and a good moral compass generally gets applied to injustices of all kinds that the person sees in the world, both towards animals and towards other human beings.
The question should be, why can't you care about animals as well as humans? is there something wrong with you? How can you be so selectively callous and insensitive.
Daemon complains that human children are dying while people worry about cockfighting. Why can't we oppose and take action against both? Daemon - show us how we can help your kids and we will!
Tom Regan wrote The Case for Animal Rights and he says we can care about both humans and about the other animals. I agree with him.
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Professor Tom Regan makes the case for animal rights and caring for humans
You write so passionately about cockfighting, but what have you got to say about the establishment killing children every other day in Afganistan -- You people are lost in the propaganda of life. If you were born in the Philippines you would have been born most probably a cockfighter, but in England you were born to be confused by the official view. Daemon.
The premier internet site representing live hare coursing and the whole greyhound industry in Ireland, "Greyhound Nuts", carried these comments on the upcoming cockfight spectacle. Interesting how none of them suggested reporting it to the Gardai??? And they knew so much about it beforehand??? Notice J Scully's indepth knowledge of the fieldsport. The same J Scully attacks anti coursing groups day in and day out for being prepared to resort to "extremist activities". I'd call cockfighting fairly extreme...and I'd say the same about Scully's favourite "sport" of hare coursing.
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its the time of the year for cock fighting apparently June is the prime month. the itinerants in Waterford are advertising a big cock fighting competition coming up in the next two weeks and it will be posted on YOUTUBE. It tis to be held on a halting site near the Tipp/ Waterford border at 6am on Saturday June 2ND.
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thats dukeys site lucey ,,,,he lives there with his granny,,,,,
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joe the real gimp ryan has left the building,,,,
feck back to where ya came from gimpy
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not on this site thats the one next door
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It's big business and attracts large gatherings. Many make the journey over from England with their team of birds. The gambling that goes on at these gatherings is unreal. Apparently all the birds are weighed in and matched to fight accordingly. Bets are made on each individual bout and the losers end up as dinner. The Gardai have a lot more to do than raid these events and the boys know it.
hare coursing...a fieldsport like cockfighting and worthy of mention on Greyhound Nuts
So it is not enough that people don't care enough for the lives of these animals not to eat the birds, nor the lives of fellow humans, subjecting themselves to antibiotics , growth hormones and whatever else is pumped into the vast majority of bird flesh in order to over supply the "food" market. Some more morally deficient individuals have decided to meet at 6am in a field somewhere to witness the barbaric sight of two childlike creatures hacking each other apart in a bloodbath. What a shameful way to live your life. My thoughts are with the birds that are caged up somewhere at this moment, oblivious to their bloody fate.
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